cerberus1701 wrote...
Seival wrote...
cerberus1701 wrote...
Seival wrote...
cerberus1701 wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
cerberus1701 wrote...
No other endings make sense, save perhaps Renegade Control.
Gotta ask; why Renegade control makes sense and not Paragon control? Because it is totally and absolutely unthinkable that a "good" person may want to do something else with the reapers than fly the into the sun right?
Because Paragon Control must assume that Shepard will simply not morph into another twisted Catalyst in a few thousand years. It has to be assumed so that (P) controllers can have their unicorn and rainbow happy sacrifice.
Renegade Shepard would happily pick up Thor's Hammer for the sake of power and to impose his/her own brand of justice.
Renegade Control ultimately doesn't actually care that he/she will eventually become the happy enforcer with a Reaper army at his back.
A good person simply cannot stay a good person when that person is no longer a person and has no other connections to other people anymore. The only things that Shep will eventually relate with and truly understand are the other Reapers because, after a while, they won't be connected to anything else.
Headcannon whatever you like, but human psychology is what it is.
(1) Human psychology is not applicable to computers.
(2) With Shepard's personality Catalyst will follow Shepard's way of thinking.
(3) Being an AI, Shepard-Catalyst will be incorruptible because power can't corrupt a computer.
Yes, as simple as that. Shepard died, but her mind lives on as an unstoppable and incorruptible machine. What exactly that machine will do in the future strongly depends on who was your Shepard as a human. So if your Shepard was sane and reasonable you have nothing to worry about.
All three of your points have the same fundamental flaw:
(1) It is when you're alleging that the computer copied the mind.
(2) Not if the computer didn't copy the mind. If all it did was transfer data, then it's basically no different than preserving the societal data it claims to "save" when it liquefies a species. I can assimilate the facts in your obituary, that's not the same as understanding your LIFE.
(3) (See (1) and (2) If it copied the mind...if it TRULY copied the mind, then that mind is subject to the same issues yours or mine would be when all we're doing is carrying it around in this meatbag.
Anything less is even more reason not to trust the Shepalyst.
Looks like you don't see the difference between artificial mind and natural mind. And this is actually one of the main differences between organics and synthetics.
Human psycology formed not only by doctrines of your ethos. It forms constantly in fact. It is never ending process that depends on your mood, mood of the ones who you are talking to, temperature in the room, if you are hungry or not, if you are tired or not, if you want to sleep or not, if you intoxicated or not, if you ill or not, on what sounds surround you currently, if you feel pain or need, or envy, or hate... and who knows how many other factors.
Programmed synthetic mind doesn't depend on all these things. AI chooses a path only following program's logic. It is bound only to it's code, not to external factors. External factors only provide visual and sound info for an AI. This is why AIs are incorruptible. This is why synthetics are so different from organics. Synthetics do not feel or understand something like organics. They just follow their code. Synthetics' "feelings" is something that is completely alien to organics. But if a synthetic was programmed to be good and polite, it will be good and polite obviously.
There is no difference...not IF you're trying to tell me that Shepard is still Shepard.
Yes. You're right, in PART, that those elements factor into a person, but not the way you think. Hunger, fatigue, etc, create certain states that illicit certain REACTIONS that are dependent only in part on psychology. Some people get grumpy in response to fatigue. I know others who think everything is hilarious then.
He won't be hungry anymore, so he won't react to that.
But he WILL be lonely. He will need to make connections.
Otherwise he is NOT Human anymore.
Otherwise the Catalyst just duped Shep into taking over for him so it could functionally die...finally.
You want to have your cake and eat it, too. You want to tell people that Control is so awesome because if Shepard was awesome before he'll continue to be awesome because everything he is went into it.
But, oh...he's just a shackled AI now who isn't REALLY Shepard. All the positives went in and none of the negatives.
How does it know what the "good stuff" to copy is when rage isn't always a bad thing and love isn't always a good one?
Ah, I see you are starting to understand Control
This is what I'm talking about - there is no Shepard after Control. Shepard died.
This is what the Catalyst told about - "you will die, you will loose everything you have".
This is the price for becoming the new Catalyst - human Shepard is no more.
Farewell, Shepard. Hello, the new Catalyst. The Catalyst, who now follows Shepard's way of thinking. And no one else has to die or to be changed against their will.
What can change the nature of a man? Anything... love, hate, envy, jealousy, hunger, need, environment...
What can change the nature of a machine? Nothing... it cannot be power-hungry. Machines do not feel hunger no matter if it's mental or physical. Machines exist to fulfill their programmed purpose. And this is beautiful in its own alien way. I like synthetic life as strongly as organic life.
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