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[Taboo]

 The Control choice reminds me of something Ayn Rand would have chosen.


ME. ME. ME.


BLEUGH. 

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 29 mai 2012 - 12:18 .

[estebanus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

 The Control choice reminds me of something Ayn Rand would have chosen.


ME. ME. ME.


BLEUGH. 

I laughed.

[Taboo]

estebanus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 The Control choice reminds me of something Ayn Rand would have chosen.


ME. ME. ME.


BLEUGH. 

I laughed.

At least SOMEONE gets it.

Ayn Rand. 

Objectivism. 

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 The Control choice reminds me of something Ayn Rand would have chosen.


ME. ME. ME.


BLEUGH. 

I laughed.

At least SOMEONE gets it.

Ayn Rand. 

Objectivism. 

In the ME universe, it works. This isn't Atlas Shrugged. 

It's an evil, as all of the ME endings are. However it is the least evil, as destroy is genocide against the Geth and all synthetic life and Synthesis makes FORCEABLE changes to all life. 

Control does niether. 

[Carlthestrange]

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

[Taboo]

The jokes on you!

The Geth are already dead in my playthrough!

I messed something up in ME2!

Control gives an obscene amount of power to one man or woman.

Like.............like...............like.......Atlas in Bioshock.

[Reptilian Rob]

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

All endings are evil/horrific. It's just in my view, at least control gives the species of the galaxy a chance to see each other one last time before the innevitable breaking of control.

In which death is certain. 

[Jamie9]

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

We've been given no evidence that the Reapers have any redeemable qualities at all. They're barely even alive.

They aren't like the Geth, or EDI.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The jokes on you!

The Geth are already dead in my playthrough!

I messed something up in ME2!

Control gives an obscene amount of power to one man or woman.

Like.............like...............like.......Atlas in Bioshock.

And we come to the head of the matter, playstyle and YOUR story. 

ME is about your story, not anyone elses. I like Control as it stands now with our crappy endings, as you may prefer something different. It's our Sheps, no one elses. 

[Carlthestrange]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

All endings are evil/horrific. It's just in my view, at least control gives the species of the galaxy a chance to see each other one last time before the innevitable breaking of control.

In which death is certain. 

I did admittedly, view the endings and thought. "So... you get 3 choices of total dickery?"

Shepard is no hero in any ending. Slavery and forced evolution are against everything humanity stand for... and Genocide. Well, in the case of them or us, its the most -humane- option.

We enslave them, and we're no better than them.

[estebanus]

Jamie9 wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

We've been given no evidence that the Reapers have any redeemable qualities at all. They're barely even alive.

They aren't like the Geth, or EDI.

They're smarter, and they were born alive.

The Geth and EDI were all built for one reason: serving. It was through idiocy that the geth became sentient, and with EDI it was because of a bug, I think.

The reapers were born alive. They are the result of a horrendous merging between man and machine. They're more alive than any other synthetic race to date. Each one is a true intelligence and life, and they were always meant to be alive.

[Taboo]

I only kill EDI in the Destroy ending, the Quarians have already wiped the Geth away.

FAR better than Synthesis and less............ Objectivist than Control.

I'm not worried about that Singularity anymore either, because the Star Gazer scene solidifies that no one is going to be wiped out by a singularity for at LEAST ten thousand years.

Cool beans I say.

[Reptilian Rob]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't see how slavery is any better than death.

"It is better to die standing than to live on your knees."

All endings are evil/horrific. It's just in my view, at least control gives the species of the galaxy a chance to see each other one last time before the innevitable breaking of control.

In which death is certain. 

I did admittedly, view the endings and thought. "So... you get 3 choices of total dickery?"

Shepard is no hero in any ending. Slavery and forced evolution are against everything humanity stand for... and Genocide. Well, in the case of them or us, its the most -humane- option.

We enslave them, and we're no better than them.

Destroy = Mass Genocide 

Synthesis = Mass Molestation

Control = Mass Slavery

Take your pick, all three are disgusting. 

[Carlthestrange]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Destroy = Mass Genocide 

Synthesis = Mass Molestation

Control = Mass Slavery

Take your pick, all three are disgusting. 

We should just call the Doctor. He always finds another way. Or at least finds a way to ensure that some survive.

[Taboo]

Only EDI dies in my ending.

****ty, but something I'm willing to do.

NEVER SYNTHESIS.

[Reptilian Rob]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Destroy = Mass Genocide 

Synthesis = Mass Molestation

Control = Mass Slavery

Take your pick, all three are disgusting. 

We should just call the Doctor. He always finds another way. Or at least finds a way to ensure that some survive.

One man, Kirk. And not the sissy Kirk of that JJ Abrams movie, I'm talking about THE Kirk. 

He doesn't compromise nor go with the options given. Plus, he has Spock logic on his side. 

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Only EDI dies in my ending.

****ty, but something I'm willing to do.

NEVER SYNTHESIS.

Green ending is the worst, forceable rewirte on all spcies with ****ing space magic. 

Mother ****ing, space magic.

[Carlthestrange]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

One man, Kirk. And not the sissy Kirk of that JJ Abrams movie, I'm talking about THE Kirk. 

He doesn't compromise nor go with the options given. Plus, he has Spock logic on his side. 

Would still love to know how he always gets his shirt ripped off.

[SoxFilledWithMashedPotatoes]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

SoxFilledWithMashedPotatoes wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Seival wrote...
Reapers were intended to be just tools. It's clear that they use current Catalist way of thinking. So Control is not an enslavement. If the Reapers ever had an independent mind, they would rebel agains the Catalist long long ago.

TIM was right about Control possibility indeed, and this doesn't make Control a renegade option, no matter the TIM is pure renegade. TIM insisted that the Reapers CAN be Controlled, but almost noone believed him... But he WAS right.

In the end Shepard understood that Control is really possible and started to consider it as a valid option. And everything that Paragon Shepard told to TIM on the Citadel just proves that Shepard is truly ready to Control the Reapers.



Control is true Paragon option. That's why the blue color is used for it. It's not a mistake, it was intended.

The radiation pulse used to destroy the Collector base was also blue. Color is irrelevant.

The color of the Collector Base explosion has no significance. It's the color of the star behind TIM thats important...

Yep, very true. The color of the Collector base explosion is the same in both endings, it's only the star which changes color. 

I meant with 'significance', that the explosion color of the collector base has no meaning and not that they're identical.

[Taboo]

They are all ****.

I survive in Destroy as well.

I found a loophole in the genocide thing. I'll do it all the time now.

PROBLEM HUDSON?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 29 mai 2012 - 12:34 .

[MerchantGOL]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Only EDI dies in my ending.

****ty, but something I'm willing to do.

NEVER SYNTHESIS.

Green ending is the worst, forceable rewirte on all spcies with ****ing space magic. 

Mother ****ing, space magic.

*Exasperated Sigh*

The indoctronation/ huskification can be carried on the energy feilds the Reapers and their tech emit , Synthiis is just a refined "good" version of the husk process.

Their is nothing magical about it it can be explained.

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 29 mai 2012 - 12:40 .

[Taboo]

Oh, it can be explained, but I don't think it will.

You'll have to speculate about it.

Someone had a thread on it. Ieldra, he proposed nanites.

I know very little about such things but it made far more sense than what Bioware gave me.

[Jadebaby]

Seival wrote...

I'm sure you just want to justify Shepard's survival as a human being and reuniting with love interest... Believe me, your Shepard will no longer be a Paragon at the moment you choose the Destroy.

Gee, that's quite an assumption considering I already said in a post that I thought Shepard died in every ending when I first picked destroy.....

Secondly, destroy is NOT the most renegade thing you can do if it is the most thematically correct one.
This is the kind of belief I was talking about in another post...

[MerchantGOL]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Oh, it can be explained, but I don't think it will.

You'll have to speculate about it.

Someone had a thread on it. Ieldra, he proposed nanites.

I know very little about such things but it made far more sense than what Bioware gave me.

Its not speculation, it spaying attention to the codex and the god damn evolution comic.

[Taboo]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Oh, it can be explained, but I don't think it will.

You'll have to speculate about it.

Someone had a thread on it. Ieldra, he proposed nanites.

I know very little about such things but it made far more sense than what Bioware gave me.

Its not speculation, it spaying attention to the codex and the god damn evolution comic.

Disingenious assertions like that only give credence to the fact that you are attempting to validate within your own head claims that no evidence.

It's almost sophist in nature.

Do not assume anything.

Synthesis is the video game equivalent of a hapax legomena.

It's mentioned once, and only once, right at the end.

You understand the literary influence for it yes?