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So, the Illusive Man was right after all [Control Ending support thread]


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Erixxxx wrote...

Holy crap, how could I not have noticed this thread before now? O.o

Control supporter reporting in.


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@Erixxxx Welcome to this control freaks thread ;)



Great new banner Seival. Are you going to do banners for more squadmates? Support a Kaidan banner! :)

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HagarIshay wrote...

@Erixxxx Welcome to this control freaks thread ;)



Great new banner Seival. Are you going to do banners for more squadmates? Support a Kaidan banner! :)


Thanks :)

Yes, I'll definitely make more banners. Including the ones with squadmates I think.

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Thanks, guys. Great to be here! :D

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Thanks, guys. Great to be here! :D


You might also be interested in joining Control Ending support group: http://social.bioware.com/group/7485/

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You disgrace Garrus's character with that banner.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

You disgrace Garrus's character with that banner.


Not at all. This is Garruss's quote about the Paragon Shepard. Paragon Shepard's motivation for choosing Control is to avoid unnecessary deaths. Garrus himself might not choose Control, but it's clear that he will understand and respect Shepard's decision.

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Seival wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

You disgrace Garrus's character with that banner.


Not at all. This is Garruss's quote about the Paragon Shepard.


I know it's his quote. 

Paragon Shepard's motivation for choosing Control is to avoid unnecessary deaths.


Not mine. 

Garrus himself might not choose Control, but it's clear that he will understand and respect Shepard's decision.


I'd think Garrus, the ex-police officer who is noted to enjoy playing outside the rules and not take things at face-value, would probably the tell the Catalyst where to shove his Widow Rifle at the very notion of controlling the Reapers in such a stupid situation. 

The master of the Reapers and cause of this whole mess, after you just killed the only advocator for this choice minutes before (who was also racist, insane, and indocrinated), tells you control of the Reapers is possible if you go and grab those magic lightning rods and apparently 'die'. 

You must have made several ambiguous African military generals much richer in your life. 

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Seival wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

Thanks, guys. Great to be here! :D


You might also be interested in joining Control Ending support group: http://social.bioware.com/group/7485/


Count me in. :D

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I'd think Garrus, the ex-police officer who is noted to enjoy playing outside the rules and not take things at face-value, would probably the tell the Catalyst where to shove his Widow Rifle at the very notion of controlling the Reapers in such a stupid situation.



Garrus also hates it when a comrade dies under his command. I doubt Garrus would be okay with genocide to achieve his goals.

The master of the Reapers and cause of this whole mess, after you just killed the only advocator for this choice minutes before (who was also racist, insane, and indocrinated), tells you control of the Reapers is possible if you go and grab those magic lightning rods and apparently 'die'.


Yea and just like how he tells you that you can destroy the Reapers if you shoot a tube. Equally as unbelievable given that circumstance. For all Shepard knows, shooting the power conduit could destroy the Crucible.

TIM is morally grey. He has good but misguided intentions and his methods were horrible.

Paragon Shepard taking control of the Reapers is different then TIM taking control anyway. He isn't going to go nuts and try to secure human dominance. It's like saying if you hand 2 morally different people the same weapon, they're going to use it the same way.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

I'd think Garrus, the ex-police officer who is noted to enjoy playing outside the rules and not take things at face-value, would probably the tell the Catalyst where to shove his Widow Rifle at the very notion of controlling the Reapers in such a stupid situation.



Garrus also hates it when a comrade dies under his command. I doubt Garrus would be okay with genocide to achieve his goals.

The master of the Reapers and cause of this whole mess, after you just killed the only advocator for this choice minutes before (who was also racist, insane, and indocrinated), tells you control of the Reapers is possible if you go and grab those magic lightning rods and apparently 'die'.


Yea and just like how he tells you that you can destroy the Reapers if you shoot a tube. Equally as unbelievable given that circumstance. For all Shepard knows, shooting the power conduit could destroy the Crucible.


Well sure, but I mentioned nothing about destroy or synthesis. 

You could quite easily change "at the very notion of controlling the Reapers" to something that makes it apply to either of the others. 

But I was talking about control.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'd think Garrus, the ex-police officer who is noted to enjoy playing outside the rules and not take things at face-value, would probably the tell the Catalyst where to shove his Widow Rifle at the very notion of controlling the Reapers in such a stupid situation.



Garrus also hates it when a comrade dies under his command. I doubt Garrus would be okay with genocide to achieve his goals.

The master of the Reapers and cause of this whole mess, after you just killed the only advocator for this choice minutes before (who was also racist, insane, and indocrinated), tells you control of the Reapers is possible if you go and grab those magic lightning rods and apparently 'die'.


Yea and just like how he tells you that you can destroy the Reapers if you shoot a tube. Equally as unbelievable given that circumstance. For all Shepard knows, shooting the power conduit could destroy the Crucible.


Well sure, but I mentioned nothing about destroy or synthesis. 

You could quite easily change "at the very notion of controlling the Reapers" to something that makes it apply to either of the others. 

But I was talking about control.



Which his first answer is also all about; avoiding genocide instead of just blindly following your goal and killing everyone in your path with no regards for anything else.

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Erixxxx wrote...

Which his first answer is also all about; avoiding genocide instead of just blindly following your goal and killing everyone in your path with no regards for anything else.


I know. 

That's why I was meandering around the issue of talking about destroy and synthesis being a massive strawman to the point. I didn't mention them. I was talking control specifically, because that was what the argument concerned.

Garrus flat-out wouldn't do what the Catalyst says in that situation. No one would. He wouldn't choose destroy or synthesis either, as I hopefully pointed out. 

But for some twisted reason; Shepard would. 

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Testing new banner :)

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Seival wrote...

Testing new banner :)

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Completely forgot about the border... Fixed:

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The reasons I chose control my first time through were:
1. Synthesis changed everyone into half-nonorganic, half organic things, with none of them having any say in the matter.
2. Destroy killed all the geth and Edi, which felt like a dick move after I spent so long trying to forge a peaceful bond between the Geth and Quarian, and EDI had just found herself and someone to love.

Control felt like the safest choice. I could stop the reapers from killing everything/everyone, people could continue living, I didn't force something onto them that they didn't choose, and the Geth/EDI could continue with their lives. Felt like the biggest win-win to me.

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This banner is seriously awesome, Seival. I'll use it if there will be a small version of it :)

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It is confirmed, Control is canon ending for me.

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It is confirmed, Control is canon ending for me.


Kind of feeling bad for the destroyers. They should have gotten the synthetics being heavily damaged, but why completely destroyed? :(

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^Hack Walters.

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Garrus also says (paraphrasing here) "All you need to do is make peace with the Reapers, and we'll call you a saint."

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HagarIshay wrote...

This banner is seriously awesome, Seival. I'll use it if there will be a small version of it :)


Added all three size variants to OP :)

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Mesina2 wrote...

It is confirmed, Control is canon ending for me.


Well, for me it was clear once I started to understand the endings. Control is the only choice for my favorite Shepard. She just can't backstab her friends, or turn everyone into "something else" without asking their permission first.

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Seival wrote...

Well, for me it was clear once I started to understand the endings. Control is the only choice for my favorite Shepard. She just can't backstab her friends, or turn everyone into "something else" without asking their permission first.


Mind if I ask what you chose before the ending was clear to you? Just curious ^_^

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HagarIshay wrote...

Seival wrote...

Well, for me it was clear once I started to understand the endings. Control is the only choice for my favorite Shepard. She just can't backstab her friends, or turn everyone into "something else" without asking their permission first.


Mind if I ask what you chose before the ending was clear to you? Just curious ^_^


Synthesis... In my first playthrough I didn't understand that the Catalist's chamber is a giant dialogue-wheel. So after dialogue with the Catalist I just moved forward thinking that I have to interract with some game object in order to trigger dialogue with three final options available... But when I got too close to the pillar of light it was too late...

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