Lizardviking wrote...
Want to hear what this group's take is on this...
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing
My own opinion? People are already trying to overthrow or stop the new catalyst.
Hadeedak wrote...
It's possible Shepard AI gave them that, too. I mean, all the technology to study!
KingZayd wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
Want to hear what this group's take is on this...
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing
My own opinion? People are already trying to overthrow or stop the new catalyst.
Very interesting. Or maybe they're studying for weaknesses, you know.. "in case"
Like in the Avengers with the Hulk-trap.
Which I've stated many times over already, and agree with.The Night Mammoth wrote...
I don't see the point of the argument, really. They don't 'feel' but they evidently have emotions of some description.
A question was posed whether they feel or not. I clarified, that by our definition, they cannot possibly "feel", and organic emotions do not apply to them. I later went on to state that they seem to have developed their own synthetic equivalent of emotions, which would be more based on programming than physicality, as AI are, ultimately, programs.The Night Mammoth wrote...
What's the importance of them having emotions or not?
@bold: You just answered your own question.KingZayd wrote...
And why is synthetic life, not equivalent to organic life? One is based on Carbon. One is based on other things.
Because "alive", "emotions" -- all of those words and concepts are organic. They're specific to us. They were created by us, to refer to us. Synthetics have their own equivalents of these words and concepts. Eg. "Alive" for a synthetic may refer to being active and themselves, as a program, being active. But they're not alive by our definition, regardless of whether they take on that word to describe themselves. That's their own equivalent with a drastically differing definition.KingZayd wrote...
They
aren't alive according an arbitrary definition. They cannot have
emotions according to an arbitrary definition. It's just as valid as the
Reapers deciding that Organics and Synthetics aren't alive, because our
"life" is different to that of these huge synthetic ships with organic
minds.
Modifié par JackumsD, 30 juin 2012 - 07:48 .
KingZayd wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
Want to hear what this group's take is on this...
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing
My own opinion? People are already trying to overthrow or stop the new catalyst.
Very interesting. Or maybe they're studying for weaknesses, you know.. "in case"
Like in the Avengers with the Hulk-trap.
Modifié par Seival, 30 juin 2012 - 10:59 .
Seival wrote...
KingZayd wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
Want to hear what this group's take is on this...
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing
My own opinion? People are already trying to overthrow or stop the new catalyst.
Very interesting. Or maybe they're studying for weaknesses, you know.. "in case"
Like in the Avengers with the Hulk-trap.
Or maybe they are trying to help new Catalist to improve some of Reapers' design. You know, to help them to perform some non-combat and non-harvesing tasks better...
...Reaprs can repair themselves and Relays/Citadel. They can build some structures with defencive/offensive purposes. But I doubt they can build planetside living houses for different races good enough. So, maybe humans have some valuable knowlege to offer to the Reapers. I think this is the case.
Modifié par JA Shepard, 30 juin 2012 - 11:21 .
JA Shepard wrote...
Seival wrote...
*snip*
Or maybe they are trying to help new Catalist to improve some of Reapers' design. You know, to help them to perform some non-combat and non-harvesing tasks better...
...Reaprs can repair themselves and Relays/Citadel. They can build some structures with defencive/offensive purposes. But I doubt they can build planetside living houses for different races good enough. So, maybe humans have some valuable knowlege to offer to the Reapers. I think this is the case.
I thought that it was Shepard that was basically doing a big data dump for them. Reapers all of a sudden start being good guys and no one knows why. The shock and freak out would be massive. This could be Shepard's way of reassuring people by giving full disclosure so that they can begin to understand what has happened to at least a certain extent. They have a huge amount of new info to study but over time, things may become clear because of it.
To be honest, this is only my headcanon so that I can have the hope that Shepard will reach out and let her loved ones know she really is in there. I love the new control ending. It is exactly what I imagined. I so strongly beliieve it to be the truly right decision but I still can't shake the guilt of doing that to Shepard. I feel awful about it and I just want one tiny, itty-bitty indication that I didn't keep her existing yet lock her away forever from those she cares about. I need that in the worst way.
- Paragon Control to me at least is one of the saddest, bittersweet endings a on personal level out of them all.
Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 30 juin 2012 - 11:40 .
ImperatorMortis wrote...
I don't really like the Control ending. It seems a bit.. Off having some invinsible immortal in control all of that, and basically ruling over everyone. Even if it is shep.
If the control ending somehow becomes canon(which I doubt), I can see Shepard being the next big bad if they make a Mass Effect 4. Destroy is the best imo.
The relays get rebuilt, shep may get to live, and no one has to worry about Reapers ever again, ever.
Mesina2 wrote...
ImperatorMortis wrote...
I don't really like the Control ending. It seems a bit.. Off having some invinsible immortal in control all of that, and basically ruling over everyone. Even if it is shep.
If the control ending somehow becomes canon(which I doubt), I can see Shepard being the next big bad if they make a Mass Effect 4. Destroy is the best imo.
The relays get rebuilt, shep may get to live, and no one has to worry about Reapers ever again, ever.
Except Shepard only rules Reapers, nobody else.
Shepard only helps to help and guard others, nothing else.
Arcadian Legend wrote...
I got to admit, Control is growing on me.
Modifié par Mesina2, 30 juin 2012 - 11:55 .
Lizardviking wrote...
Mesina2 wrote...
ImperatorMortis wrote...
I don't really like the Control ending. It seems a bit.. Off having some invinsible immortal in control all of that, and basically ruling over everyone. Even if it is shep.
If the control ending somehow becomes canon(which I doubt), I can see Shepard being the next big bad if they make a Mass Effect 4. Destroy is the best imo.
The relays get rebuilt, shep may get to live, and no one has to worry about Reapers ever again, ever.
Except Shepard only rules Reapers, nobody else.
Shepard only helps to help and guard others, nothing else.
Not renegade Shepard!
Arcadian Legend wrote...
I got to admit, Control is growing on me.
ImperatorMortis wrote...
I don't really like the Control ending. It seems a bit.. Off having some invinsible immortal in control all of that, and basically ruling over everyone. Even if it is shep.
If the control ending somehow becomes canon(which I doubt), I can see Shepard being the next big bad if they make a Mass Effect 4. Destroy is the best imo.
The relays get rebuilt, shep may get to live, and no one has to worry about Reapers ever again, ever.
Mesina2 wrote...
Welp, not Renegade.
JA Shepard wrote...
*snip*
:(You better take that back. My Shepard would never do that. She's a sweetie-bear. She wouldn't hurt a fly under normal circumstances. She just happens to have a very, very difficult job. Take it back. Take. It. Back.
- Another reason why I like Control... it is a parody/comedy GOLD MINE. 
Modifié par nitefyre410, 30 juin 2012 - 12:14 .
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