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nitefyre410 wrote...

  


Supreme  Guardian of the Galaxy and  endroses male cologne 

Approved of the galactic guardian?

Talk about having a great platform to launch your advertersing. 

Modifié par Lizardviking, 30 juin 2012 - 03:18 .

[Ageless Face]

nitefyre410 wrote...

what makes even funner is that was not the model from  Defualt Male Shepard actually a model for Calvin Klein?

Yeah...I have no idea who's this Klein guy is  I'm guessing it's something to do with colognes? 
And what do you mean it's not Sheploo's model?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 30 juin 2012 - 03:22 .

[MegaSovereign]

nitefyre410 wrote...

  


Supreme  Guardian of the Galaxy and  endroses male cologne 

LOL

[The Heretic of Time]

I'm a control supporter. I played as a mostly renegade Shepard. I chose the control ending with the original ending and i chose control again with the Extended Cut DLC. I'm happy with the new Control ending. It's sad that Shepard had to kill The Illusive Man, but I'm sure TIM would be proud if he saw my Shepard now.

Also, the control ending has the best music in my opinion. I have this song on repeat non-stop for a few days now. It never gets old.

Control FTW.


Edit: To the OP: Can you please also make Renegade Control banners? All I see is Paragon Control banners, but I'd like to have a Renegade version if that's possible.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 30 juin 2012 - 03:29 .

[Fox In The Box]

So, a question for the Control-people (and I'm terribly sorry if it has been asked before, but I can't be arsed to read through the whole thread): how do you think Control affects the Reapers? Do you think Shepard steers them like puppets? Or do you think that maybe it's a bit more like the heretics, where the Reapers are "rewritten" to accept Shepard's ideas once she/he becomes their collective mind? Or something else?

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 30 juin 2012 - 03:31 .

[nitefyre410]

HagarIshay wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

what makes even funner is that was not the model from  Defualt Male Shepard actually a model for Calvin Klein?

Yeah...I have no idea who's this Klein guy is  I'm guessing it's something to do with colognes? 
And what do you mean it's not Sheploo's model?

 

The  model the  capture Sheploo face from I swear he was  Calvin Klein Model...

damnit ... TO THE GOOGLE I GO  

[nitefyre410]

*delete dbl post* 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 30 juin 2012 - 03:33 .

[Kalyppso]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The  model the  capture Sheploo face from I swear he was  Calvin Klein Model...

damnit ... TO THE GOOGLE I GO  

I think / hope I beat you:



But you were right.

Modifié par Mademon, 30 juin 2012 - 03:35 .

[MegaSovereign]

Fox In The Box wrote...

So, a question for the Control-people (and I'm terribly sorry if it has been asked before, but I can't be arsed to read through the whole thread): how do you think Control affects the Reapers? Do you think Shepard steers them like puppets? Or do you think that maybe it's a bit more like the heretics, where the Reapers are "rewritten" to accept Shepard's ideas once she/he becomes their collective mind? Or something else?

They're like bee workers and Shepard is the queen. They're all individuals but they answer to the big fat queen.

[nitefyre410]

Mademon wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The  model the  capture Sheploo face from I swear he was  Calvin Klein Model...

damnit ... TO THE GOOGLE I GO  

I think / hope I beat you:

*snip* 

But you were right.

 

oh you 'd me 

 

So renegade... 

[Ageless Face]

Fox In The Box wrote...

So, a question for the Control-people (and I'm terribly sorry if it has been asked before, but I can't be arsed to read through the whole thread): how do you think Control affects the Reapers? Do you think Shepard steers them like puppets? Or do you think that maybe it's a bit more like the heretics, where the Reapers are "rewritten" to accept Shepard's ideas once she/he becomes their collective mind? Or something else?

My guess is, that the change was not really in the reapers, but in Shepard. The Crucible changed the "master". That's why Shepard can no longer be organic, since the change should come from him/her. Not the reapers.

[Fox In The Box]

MegaSovereign wrote...

They're like bee workers and Shepard is the queen. They're all individuals but they answer to the big fat queen.

But bees act on instinct, do they not? According to Legion, Reapers seem to have an immense cognitive function, yet they all (save one, possibly) accept the Catalyst's logic. Why is that?

HagarIshay wrote...

My guess is, that the change was not really in the reapers, but in Shepard. The Crucible changed the
"master". That's why Shepard can no longer be organic, since the change should come from him/her. Not the reapers.

So, what you're saying is that they have to follow their "master"? It's in their programming, or something? Do you suppose Reapers like Sovereign would lose their apparent disdain for organics, or still have it and follow Shepard anyway?

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 30 juin 2012 - 03:54 .

[Moshaaver]

JA Shepard wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I don't really like the Control ending. It seems a bit.. Off having some invinsible immortal in control all of that, and basically ruling over everyone. Even if it is shep.

If the control ending somehow becomes canon(which I doubt),  I can see Shepard being the next big bad if they make a Mass Effect 4. Destroy is the best imo.

The relays get rebuilt, shep may get to live, and no one has to worry about Reapers ever again, ever.

:(You better take that back. My Shepard would never do that. She's a sweetie-bear. She wouldn't hurt a fly under normal circumstances. She just happens to have a very, very difficult job. Take it back. Take. It. Back. 

I think it's super cute that your Shepard is a 'Sweetie-Bear'

Control all the way.

[Ageless Face]

Fox In The Box wrote...

So, what you're saying is that they have to follow their "master"? It's in their programming, or something? Do you suppose Reapers like Sovereign would lose their apparent disdain for organics, or still have it and follow Shepard anyway?

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's in their programming. Shepard is changing to transform into the new controller, the reapers acknowlage that in their systems or something, and taking the new orders.

And why would they care what Shepard was? Shepard is no organic anymore. I doubt they would care if s/he was before. I also doubt they can do anything about that anyway. I don't know if the reapers will keep their disdain or not, but they won't act on it. 

But to be honest I just think the disdain was in their programming. It was never truly disdain. Sovy just thought of them as lesser, because the catalyst thought of orgnics as lesser.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 30 juin 2012 - 04:14 .

[Kalyppso]

Fox In The Box wrote...

So, a question for the Control-people (and I'm terribly sorry if it has been asked before, but I can't be arsed to read through the whole thread): how do you think Control affects the Reapers? Do you think Shepard steers them like puppets? Or do you think that maybe it's a bit more like the heretics, where the Reapers are "rewritten" to accept Shepard's ideas once she/he becomes their collective mind? Or something else?

I think Shepard's consciousness has infiltrated the Reapers programming to become part of their decision making process, with the power to limit their functionality should they wish to act violently. I believe Shepard has retained his/her morals and that they would not seek dictatorship over the remaining Organics or Synthetics (it it my understanding that s/he does not have control over the Geth and that they have survived this ending). I believe Shepard would understand needing to stay out of galactic conflict, and may only become emotionally invested when humans near the verge of extinction, or perhaps if the batarians sought war ... but I doubt that they would, especially considering the apparent population blows they suffered and considering the galactic reaction to having access to the Reapers collective cultural intelligence; I believe that this would have the galactic populace also more interested in reflecting on their own customs and thought processes, including those of the other species they have evolved alongside (thus including the batarians). As far as mercenaries and gang fights, that would seem to be so below Shepard once this new form is attained.

Fox In The Box wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

They're like bee workers and Shepard is the queen. They're all individuals but they answer to the big fat queen.

But bees act on instinct, do they not? According to Legion, Reapers seem to have an immense cognitive function, yet they all (save one, possibly) accept the Catalyst's logic. Why is that? 

Because of programming restraints. In the same way that Shepard is becoming software, they are no longer organic and thus must adhere to synthetic laws of function. Also, which one do you believe does not either have immense cognitive function or which one does not accept the Catalyst's logic?

Fox In The Box wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

My guess is, that the change was not really in the reapers, but in Shepard. The Crucible changed the 
"master". That's why Shepard can no longer be organic, since the change should come from him/her. Not the reapers.

So, what you're saying is that they have to follow their "master"? It's in their programming, or something? Do you suppose Reapers like Sovereign would lose their apparent disdain for organics, or still have it and follow Shepard anyway?

 

I doubt Sovereign as a society, before being a Reaper, had a disdain for organics (but who knows). At some point after maintaining a collective consciousness I imagine that a Reaper develops its own personality. In this way I believe that aspects of someone's personality can change over time (someone might not always be religious or racist or tolerate the injustices that affect a certain social group). I imagine that if there were Reapers who, either due to a programming requirement or their own evolved thought process, hate organics, that they would continue to do so, perhaps until time or influence caused them to think otherwise (or maybe they now always would, but that they would have to follow Shepard anyway).

[CroGamer002]

I think there's some sort of programing that makes Reapers dependent to Catalyst.


Though it's difficult to say, but I hope this will be cleared in Leviathan of Dis DLC.

[Kalyppso]

nitefyre410 wrote...
oh you 'd me 

 

So renegade... 

I'd feel weird posting an image of someone's private family ... but he can be paragon too.

[Aligalipe]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Aligalipe wrote...

Isn't it possible for Shepard to have a body made for him, like EDI? He could have an Avatar since he' s a Godlike being, and sleep with his love interest. Zeus did.

 

it does not matter... Shepard as he/her was is dead.  The only thing that remains is the memory and the  will that Sheaprd left behind to  as the directive of the New Catalyst.  

Its like Shepard is or was reincarnated..

Compare it Avater: the last Airbender and Legend of Korra.   Korra may be able to understand and acess Aangs memories but she will never be Aang.   

The  New  Shepard/Catalyst may understand and greatly value  the love  its former self had for  say Garrus, Kaiden, Liara, Tali, or Ashley  but it is  never going to be Shepard that they fell in love with.

and thats what makes Control a true sad ending in since... because they could sit there and  go through memories but there will always be that disconnect. 

I guess I missed that point. In that case Control is the true ultimate sacrifice in my opinion, synthesis is a great sacrifice too but, it messes with peoples DNA against their will. In Control Shepard rebuilds everything that is destroyed during the battle, and let' s everything stay as it is. And acts as a Guardian to everyone and a bridge between organics and synthetics. (At least for Paragon Shepard.) Extended Cut endings are very good but I'm still sad Goodbye Shepard.

[nitefyre410]

HagarIshay wrote...

Fox In The Box wrote...

So, what you're saying is that they have to follow their "master"? It's in their programming, or something? Do you suppose Reapers like Sovereign would lose their apparent disdain for organics, or still have it and follow Shepard anyway?

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's in their programming. Shepard is changing to transform into the new controller, the reapers acknowlage that in their systems or something, and taking the new orders.

And why would they care what Shepard was? Shepard is no organic anymore. I doubt they would care if s/he was before. I also doubt they can do anything about that anyway. I don't know if the reapers will keep their disdain or not, but they won't act on it. 

But to be honest I just think the disdain was in their programming. It was never truly disdain. Sovy just thought of them as lesser, because the catalyst thought of orgnics as lesser.

 

Honestly I think the distain was wiped out completely, because it was product of the old Catalyst logic what he built the upon, the disdain of choas and the drive to bring order it.  Life  and evolution on the surface is chaos  but  thats on the surfuce. What the old Catalyst lacked in creating its reasoning was the understanding  how life  worked. 

Shepard as the new the New Catalyst  from his previous life has that understanding so when he become the new Catalyst and basically deleted the old one. That reasoning with  Reapers was just  wiped out. 

[Fox In The Box]

Mademon wrote...

Because of programming restraints. In the same way that Shepard is becoming software, they are no longer organic and thus must adhere to synthetic laws of function. Also, which one do you believe does not either have immense cognitive function or which one does not accept the Catalyst's logic?

POSSIBLE FUTURE DLC ABOUT THE REAPERS SPOILERS;



Have you checked out the thread about Leviathan? I haven't read too much into it, but it seems to suggest that one of the Reapers betrayed its own kind. Not sure what it means, but it might have some interesting implications.

[Kalyppso]

Fox In The Box wrote...

Mademon wrote...

Because of programming restraints. In the same way that Shepard is becoming software, they are no longer organic and thus must adhere to synthetic laws of function. Also, which one do you believe does not either have immense cognitive function or which one does not accept the Catalyst's logic?

POSSIBLE FUTURE DLC ABOUT THE REAPERS SPOILERS;



Have you checked out the thread about Leviathan? I haven't read too much into it, but it seems to suggest that one of the Reapers betrayed its own kind. Not sure what it means, but it might have some interesting implications.

I hadn't read the thread about Leviathan. ^^; But that would definitely offer a new perspective. I leave myself open to new information, but will not read it now ... I trust you understand.

[nitefyre410]

Fox In The Box wrote...

Mademon wrote...

Because of programming restraints. In the same way that Shepard is becoming software, they are no longer organic and thus must adhere to synthetic laws of function. Also, which one do you believe does not either have immense cognitive function or which one does not accept the Catalyst's logic?

POSSIBLE FUTURE DLC ABOUT THE REAPERS SPOILERS;



Have you checked out the thread about Leviathan? I haven't read too much into it, but it seems to suggest that one of the Reapers betrayed its own kind. Not sure what it means, but it might have some interesting implications.

 

Don't get your hopes up  about that, there is alot of rumor and scuttllebutt that has not been confirmed by Bioware. 

Dis could just be a  another multiplayer map  with more war assets. 

[CroGamer002]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Fox In The Box wrote...

Mademon wrote...

Because of programming restraints. In the same way that Shepard is becoming software, they are no longer organic and thus must adhere to synthetic laws of function. Also, which one do you believe does not either have immense cognitive function or which one does not accept the Catalyst's logic?

POSSIBLE FUTURE DLC ABOUT THE REAPERS SPOILERS;



Have you checked out the thread about Leviathan? I haven't read too much into it, but it seems to suggest that one of the Reapers betrayed its own kind. Not sure what it means, but it might have some interesting implications.

 

Don't get your hopes up  about that, there is alot of rumor and scuttllebutt that has not been confirmed by Bioware. 

Dis could just be a  another multiplayer map  with more war assets. 

This leak came out exactly like Kasumi: Stolen Memories and Arrival DLC.

And just like with those, Bioware didn't confirm it until official announcement.


Also, it's possible this leak was made on purpose, just like Arrival.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Honestly I think the distain was wiped out completely, because it was product of the old Catalyst logic what he built the upon, the disdain of choas and the drive to bring order it.  Life  and evolution on the surface is chaos  but  thats on the surfuce. What the old Catalyst lacked in creating its reasoning was the understanding  how life  worked. 

Shepard as the new the New Catalyst  from his previous life has that understanding so when he become the new Catalyst and basically deleted the old one. That reasoning with  Reapers was just  wiped out. 

Yeah, that is pretty much what I meant the disdain was what the catalyst programmed on them. the orders, his way of thinking, was what the reapers based themselves on. When Shepard became the new catalyst, s/he changed their way of thinking. I'm guessing that changing Shepard to the catalyst also meant to rewrite the reapers.

[nitefyre410]

Mesina2 wrote...

*snip*


This leak came out exactly like Kasumi: Stolen Memories and Arrival DLC.

And just like with those, Bioware didn't confirm it until official announcement.


Also, it's possible this leak was made on purpose, just like Arrival.

 

that is heavy evidence for this being true but I will wait till we get some offically word and ME 3 drops to about 20 bucks till i get happy.  

yep Youtube is my best friend.... watched what I need from the EC from there.