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So, the Illusive Man was right after all [Control Ending support thread]


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Seival wrote...

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^Yeah.

Also, Control is brilliant for both Paragons and Renegades.


Moreover, Control is the only ending with two different variants :)

...Which makes me suppose that Control is intended to be "default canon" ending.

 

Oh Defualt control ending... Lol if they announced the tears and rage for on the forums would be delicous..

Because it  is the only ending  the leaves the Mass Effect universe in a  state that easily  known to people. And  you can build a new character from the Shepard  Catalyst where the the players previous life as  Shepard carries over in the next game. 

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Lizardviking wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Yeah.

Also, Control is brilliant for both Paragons and Renegades.


Moreover, Control is the only ending with two different variants :)

...Which makes me suppose that Control is intended to be "default canon" ending.


Control "Default canon"?

No, that would be synthesis, given Bioware's major boner for the green ending.


Yeah.

Liara can almost be called a default romance.
And we know what's her case with favoritism.

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If they wanted to do more of the exact same, Control would be best. Destroy would work as well as it basically resets back to pre-war minus the geth.
The great thing about these two is if you hide the Reapers and EDI you can leave it ambiguous as to which one occurred. Only synthesis sticks out and doesn't fit with anything.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Yeah.

Also, Control is brilliant for both Paragons and Renegades.


Moreover, Control is the only ending with two different variants :)

...Which makes me suppose that Control is intended to be "default canon" ending.

 

Oh Defualt control ending... Lol if they announced the tears and rage for on the forums would be delicous..

Because it  is the only ending  the leaves the Mass Effect universe in a  state that easily  known to people. And  you can build a new character from the Shepard  Catalyst where the the players previous life as  Shepard carries over in the next game. 


I hope BioWare will make a New Trilogy in ME Universe, which story takes place after ME3 events. And the story of a New Trilogy will reflect all major choices you've made in ME Trilogy (two options: import ME Trilogy progress, or partially reconstruct it like in DA2).

...It would be great if we will find out that Catalist-Shepard actually has an Asari doughter, and she is actually main character of the New Trilogy.

...They still have Dark Energy plot and the Reapers' creators in reserve. So, I think that New Trilogy is very possible :)

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Seival wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Yeah.

Also, Control is brilliant for both Paragons and Renegades.


Moreover, Control is the only ending with two different variants :)

...Which makes me suppose that Control is intended to be "default canon" ending.

 

Oh Defualt control ending... Lol if they announced the tears and rage for on the forums would be delicous..

Because it  is the only ending  the leaves the Mass Effect universe in a  state that easily  known to people. And  you can build a new character from the Shepard  Catalyst where the the players previous life as  Shepard carries over in the next game. 


I hope BioWare will make a New Trilogy in ME Universe, which story takes place after ME3 events. And the story of a New Trilogy will reflect all major choices you've made in ME Trilogy (two options: import ME Trilogy progress, or partially reconstruct it like in DA2).

...It would be great if we will find out that Catalist-Shepard actually has an Asari doughter, and she is actually main character of the New Trilogy.

...They still have Dark Energy plot and the Reapers' creators in reserve. So, I think that New Trilogy is very possible :)

  


HEY no fair... Quarians and Humans can't have kids  :crying:  


I actually would like to see a never villian from the dephts of the universe maybe a variant of Dark Energy  where they are made  of up of dark enegry... or feed on energy   

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nitefyre410 wrote...


HEY no fair... Quarians and Humans can't have kids  :crying:  


I actually would like to see a never villian from the dephts of the universe maybe a variant of Dark Energy  where they are made  of up of dark enegry... or feed on energy   




Maybe Shepard can have a Surrogate Asari Baby... and Tali can have a Surrogate Asari baby.... so it'll be like.... Shepard Tali Asari Babies..... and that'd be okay with me. IMO. Love Babies either way. 

<3 Tali

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Seival wrote...


I hope BioWare will make a New Trilogy in ME Universe, which story takes place after ME3 events. And the story of a New Trilogy will reflect all major choices you've made in ME Trilogy (two options: import ME Trilogy progress, or partially reconstruct it like in DA2).

...It would be great if we will find out that Catalist-Shepard actually has an Asari doughter, and she is actually main character of the New Trilogy.

...They still have Dark Energy plot and the Reapers' creators in reserve. So, I think that New Trilogy is very possible :)


....

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

....

Unless we get to choose if we will have that asari kid. Though that will be a pretty big FU for the people who didn't romance Liara. Me romancing a human is not bad BioWare!!!!

Modifié par HagarIshay, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:34 .


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I think we can have a protagonist that has no relation to Shepard.

And also make an option make that protagonist one of the multiple humanoid species.

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Seival wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Yeah.

Also, Control is brilliant for both Paragons and Renegades.


Moreover, Control is the only ending with two different variants :)

...Which makes me suppose that Control is intended to be "default canon" ending.

 

Oh Defualt control ending... Lol if they announced the tears and rage for on the forums would be delicous..

Because it  is the only ending  the leaves the Mass Effect universe in a  state that easily  known to people. And  you can build a new character from the Shepard  Catalyst where the the players previous life as  Shepard carries over in the next game. 


I hope BioWare will make a New Trilogy in ME Universe, which story takes place after ME3 events. And the story of a New Trilogy will reflect all major choices you've made in ME Trilogy (two options: import ME Trilogy progress, or partially reconstruct it like in DA2).

...It would be great if we will find out that Catalist-Shepard actually has an Asari doughter, and she is actually main character of the New Trilogy.

...They still have Dark Energy plot and the Reapers' creators in reserve. So, I think that New Trilogy is very possible :)


That could work pretty well. It has a direct connection to Shepard which a lot of people like me would like to have in a future trilogy. It would be fun to have an Asari command the Normandy. Maybe they can come up with some variation on the face import that uses your Shepard as base model for the new character. I'd love that actually. :)

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^There is no need to have a new protagonist that is related to Shepard.


And it also gives lot of freedom to a character, if we don't' go with that route.

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Mesina2 wrote...

I think we can have a protagonist that has no relation to Shepard.

And also make an option make that protagonist one of the multiple humanoid species.

  

I hope it'll be like that. With having different stories at the start of the game, like in DA:origins. It'll be cool to see a krogan starting his life on Tuchanka, or Asari on Thessia, Quarian on Rannoch (unless you sided with the geth. That way you'll be a spacer), human on Earth, etc.

I also hope BioWare will work on this type pf project for a while.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:40 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

^There is no need to have a new protagonist that is related to Shepard.


And it also gives lot of freedom to a character, if we don't' go with that route.


i agree that there's no need for it. But as a concept I find it more favorable for me than a new character like Major Coats or someone. I'm going to be in the minority that will find any not-Shepard unappealing in the beginning. I think they should go far out with a non human if  they want to be removed from the original protagonist totally. A different species would work better imo.

Modifié par JA Shepard, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:43 .


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^Well I did said previously any humanoid species.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^There is no need to have a new protagonist that is related to Shepard.


And it also gives lot of freedom to a character, if we don't' go with that route.

 

I would much prefer if  it was  far enough in the future  where most of the cast has passed on and Liara, EDI, the Geth and Grunt a still around  acting as mentors for a new cast of heroes. 

Qaurians with out theface mask 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:05 .


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nitefyre410 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^There is no need to have a new protagonist that is related to Shepard.


And it also gives lot of freedom to a character, if we don't' go with that route.

 

I would much prefer if  it was  far enough in the future  where most of the cast has passed on and Liara, EDI, the Geth and Grunt a still around  acting as mentors for a new cast of heroes. 

Qaurians with out theface mask 


Pft-HA-HA-HA!
No.


She's in there, everyone else is.


Also, I was always attracted on 20 years later.

Because it would be similar from WW1 to WW2.
Many people said WW1 is war that would end all wars, only for 20 years later to get far more devastating one.

Bailey said the same thing after Cerberus coup.


Now, next war couldn't not be even remotely as devastating, unless Reapers go full in.
Which Shepard Catalyst wouldn't allow. Not even Renegade one, it's kinda hard to rule the ruble.


I'm also sure after Reaper War, there's gonna be struggle for power.
I mean, most of governmental structures are out, there will be fear of Reapers still being around, fear on geth as well.
Also, Salarian Union is mostly intact from war and it's established they want power.
There's also Daro'Xen that would do anything to control geth and probably expand it to all synthetics.

Though since Reapers are around here, nobody would be even thinking to go on full on war.
Instead it would be terrorist attacks, assassinations, founded small scale wars and etc.

Due to that, Reapers assistance would be useless, without them causing heavy destruction.

So I think Shepard Catalyst would create some multispecies organization to deal with this problems, without causing too much destruction.
While there are Spectre's there, for this an army would be needed.
Small one, but well trained and equipped.

And our new protagonist would be invited to join, if it wasn't already part of it but some mission made him/her to be famous and be under close eye to Shepard Catalyst for top missions.


And every surviving character could be either a nice cameo because he/she aged or maybe help out in some mission as a high ranking officer.
I mean, Imagine James Vega as a captain of his own ship after 20 years.

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^I actually rather like this idea.

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Ya know, I picked the Control ending my first time around because I honestly thought my Paragon Shepard would fly all the Reapers into the sun (or something along those lines). Instead, Shep ruled as a totalitarian force, albeit with good intentions. But as the old saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". The ending seemed so incongruous with what I think Shep would do (perfect for a renegade, though). If you think about it, Control can achieve the same thing as Destroy WITHOUT genocide. Eliminate the greatest threat to the galaxy and preserve the races. All it would cost is the life of one heroic Commander. I think Shep would take that trade in an instant. Strange it didn't happen that way.

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HagarIshay wrote...

^I actually rather like this idea.


Thank you.


I was working on this idea for a while.

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 :crying: 

*goes sits in the reject corner* 

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nitefyre410 wrote...

 :crying: 

*goes sits in the reject corner* 


Daaaaw, don't get sad.

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I liked all the suggestions, and wish I had an equally interesting supposition to share. I will add only that I too would be of the mindset that the new protagonist need not be related to the old ones ... but that I can see how easy / convenient it would be for those who accepted Liara's goodbye to be an unknowing father (all of my Shepards would be).

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awwnuts07 wrote...

Ya know, I picked the Control ending my first time around because I honestly thought my Paragon Shepard would fly all the Reapers into the sun (or something along those lines). Instead, Shep ruled as a totalitarian force, albeit with good intentions. But as the old saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". The ending seemed so incongruous with what I think Shep would do (perfect for a renegade, though). If you think about it, Control can achieve the same thing as Destroy WITHOUT genocide. Eliminate the greatest threat to the galaxy and preserve the races. All it would cost is the life of one heroic Commander. I think Shep would take that trade in an instant. Strange it didn't happen that way.


Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even the paragon would be tempted by sudden gain of such power and since he is paragon, he would justify this to himself by saying something about "use it for doing a good things" (this is exactly where your saying about good intentions come in)

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UniqueNickname wrote...
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even the paragon would be tempted by sudden gain of such power and since he is paragon, he would justify this to himself by saying something about "use it for doing a good things" (this is exactly where your saying about good intentions come in)


Power doesn't corrupt. People get corrupted by power.

Shepard will not be corrupted by power if s/he got no emotions. Synthetics will never be power hungry.

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It depends on what Shepard-Catalyst actually IS. Is it an immortal Shepard in a Reaper body? Or is it an AI with Shepard's memories?

I keep telling myself that Mass Effect is still MY story of Shepard, and Shepard-Catalyst is still Shepard, but much more wise with his newfound knowledge, power, and lifespan. He refers to mortal Shepard as another life because it was. He died once again and was "reborn" as a Reaper. He's a Paragon, so I believe he'll help in the rebuilding process of the galaxy, and then step back and let evolution take its course, remembering what Mordin said about the Krogan uplift and evolution in ME2. He'll only step in if the galaxy or entire species is threatened, and use war only as a last resort. He won't be perfect, and he might make mistakes, but just like in his mortal life, he'll try to do what's right by nature.

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Nineteen wrote...

It depends on what Shepard-Catalyst actually IS. Is it an immortal Shepard in a Reaper body? Or is it an AI with Shepard's memories?

I keep telling myself that Mass Effect is still MY story of Shepard, and Shepard-Catalyst is still Shepard, but much more wise with his newfound knowledge, power, and lifespan. He refers to mortal Shepard as another life because it was. He died once again and was "reborn" as a Reaper. He's a Paragon, so I believe he'll help in the rebuilding process of the galaxy, and then step back and let evolution take its course, remembering what Mordin said about the Krogan uplift and evolution in ME2. He'll only step in if the galaxy or entire species is threatened, and use war only as a last resort. He won't be perfect, and he might make mistakes, but just like in his mortal life, he'll try to do what's right by nature.


By the catalyst's explanations and epilouge, we know Shepard is not the person s/he used to be. Shepard doesn't even see him/herself as another person. Shepard is not an organic being anymore. That works on both the body and emotions. That means that Shepard will have a synthetic mind, or at least something very similar. A synthetic mind will work by prefrences. A paragon's Shepard prefrences, will basically want what you said. By the epilogue, s/he will do just that. A renegade will want dominance, and will get his dominance on the galaxy (that's a nice thought, isn't it?).