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So, the Illusive Man was right after all [Control Ending support thread]


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Mesina2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

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That depends on what kind of teacher you are. I think we can both agree that Jack will never be a good politician?


And you have no idea how many teachers are walking and talking tutorial-books.... At least where I come from.  


There's a such thing as good politician?


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Yes, I agree, that the new society needs less politicians and more good people.


Though, I don't think Jack quality's for that, still.



Besides, Liara would be quite useful as a Shadow Broker.

I mean, she has every into on everyone and she's an ethical and good person.

That's someone you want to have with ton of secrets.


Perhaps you are right...

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...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)

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Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)


No.

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Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)


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Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)

Eh, I think I might pass on that game. I like Liara and all, but not my LI.

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Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)



You just REALLY want Shepard asari daughter, don't you?

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Lizardviking wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)


No.


Well, maybe you are right. But I think it would be interesting to have Asari main character in the next game :)

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Mesina2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)



You just REALLY want Shepard asari daughter, don't you?


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Seival wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)


No.


Well, maybe you are right. But I think it would be interesting to have Asari main character in the next game :)


I wouldn't mind it myself, but we need to be realistic, having the protagonist be Liara and Shepard's daughter would alienate alot of fans.

That said, your idea could work for a cameo. :)

And again, you have not answered me on why a game set post ME3 could have more beautiful stories than one set before.

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

You just REALLY want Shepard asari daughter, don't you?


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If you're that much of a Liara fan. Why don't you join the Liara thread in the character forum! :D;)

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Lizardviking wrote...

Seival wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Maybe Shepard's Asari daughter should become the captain of Destiny Ascension? And her daughter should be the main story's character :)


No.


Well, maybe you are right. But I think it would be interesting to have Asari main character in the next game :)


I wouldn't mind it myself, but we need to be realistic, having the protagonist be Liara and Shepard's daughter would alienate alot of fans.

That said, your idea could work for a cameo. :)

And again, you have not answered me on why a game set post ME3 could have more beautiful stories than one set before.

Seival wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

You just REALLY want Shepard asari daughter, don't you?


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If you're that much of a Liara fan. Why don't you join the Liara thread in the character forum! :D;)


...I will. But first I need to make a movie about Liara and Shepard. Right now it's just an idea, but I'm going to make it epic. Just need some time :)

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 @Mesina  - Is it me or  are some people starting to run out of joke material  in the  Dear Destroy  and Control thread

As far as continueing the with another ME  game after control it would best for you be able to pick what race you  want to be. Asari, quarian, Geth, Human, Turian,  Krogan, Asari, Salarian and just have  some the original cast have  major roles. 

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I don't think Liara will ever be in the public light. It's not about age, I just think she doesn't like the limelight. I do see her as a power behind the throne though.
As far as I'm concerned she keeps Shadow Brokering. And maybe fakes her own death to throw off suspicion.

As for future titles (if there are any) I don't think any part of the Reapers will actually make an appearance. Declaring canon for ME is stupid and though Bioware's rang the derp bell a few times I don't think they'll actually do it. Which means the new story has to be ambiguous enough to work with control and destroy. Synthesis is the only that doesn't work with anything. And somehow I don't think they count refusal as a serious choice.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't think Liara will ever be in the public light. It's not about age, I just think she doesn't like the limelight. I do see her as a power behind the throne though.
As far as I'm concerned she keeps Shadow Brokering. And maybe fakes her own death to throw off suspicion.

As for future titles (if there are any) I don't think any part of the Reapers will actually make an appearance. Declaring canon for ME is stupid and though Bioware's rang the derp bell a few times I don't think they'll actually do it. Which means the new story has to be ambiguous enough to work with control and destroy. Synthesis is the only that doesn't work with anything. And somehow I don't think they count refusal as a serious choice.

 

Its funny there is a thread calling Refusal the Canon ending..

its like can't you see the Refusal is Bioware straightfaced joke ending.   

I agree about Liara, I don't see her being in the foreground much.  Garrus and Ashley/Kaiden  yeah... I can Garrus being Primach Victus right  hand getting groomed for job. I see him and Victus getting along.    Ashley/Kaiden being marched around as humanity newest Spectre accept medals for Shepard postumusly

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 juillet 2012 - 01:37 .


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I realize this might be playing right into the doomy-gloomer's hands but you know the line "I will create a future with limitless possibilities" in the speech?

Anyone else think of CLU 2 from Tron Legacy when you heard that? "I will create the perfect system"

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CrutchCricket wrote...

I realize this might be playing right into the doomy-gloomer's hands but you know the line "I will create a future with limitless possibilities" in the speech?

Anyone else think of CLU 2 from Tron Legacy when you heard that? "I will create the perfect system"

 

True but there are lot of characters that it come attributed to  as well... some good. some bad. 

If anything  CLU is more like the Orinigal Catalyst  because he was fundamental broken in his understanding of perfect because Flynn did not understand at the time he created him. 

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nitefyre410 wrote...

True but there are lot of characters that it come attributed to  as well... some good. some bad. 

If anything  CLU is more like the Orinigal Catalyst  because he was fundamental broken in his understanding of perfect because Flynn did not understand at the time he created him. 

Catalyst Programmer: You are the Catalyst
Catalyst: I am the Catalyst.
Programmer: You will create a lasting peace between organics and synthetics.
Catalyst: I will create a lasting peace between organics and synthetics.
Programmer *grabs Catalyst by the shoulders and smiles: You and me man. We're gonna change the world!.

later:

Catalyst: Master! Am I still to create lasting peace between organics and synthetics?
Programmer: ...yeah?
*Catalyst activates Reapers.


Anyway that's a good point. It only serves to further show the failure of execution on Bioware's part- even though he was the "bad guy" you totally knew where CLU was coming from, where the error was, and you even felt for the guy.

Still I think that line will always bring parallels between Control and Tron. It'd be interesting to go that route, and somehow have human Shepard return for a "what the hell man?" moment.

Hmm that also makes me wonder. I don't accept the holokid's bull**** logic or that its "problem" is real. But say it was- would something like The Grid- a virtual world be a possible solution? It could serve as a level playing field between organics and synthetics without fundamentally changing either. Synthetics wouldn't necessarily care about physical presence in the real world anyway (thinking of geth hubs) and organics could choose whether they plug in or not and how much time they spend there. Its almost like synthesis but without the galaxy-wide violation and green **** dispersal.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

True but there are lot of characters that it come attributed to  as well... some good. some bad. 

If anything  CLU is more like the Orinigal Catalyst  because he was fundamental broken in his understanding of perfect because Flynn did not understand at the time he created him. 

Catalyst Programmer: You are the Catalyst
Catalyst: I am the Catalyst.
Programmer: You will create a lasting peace between organics and synthetics.
Catalyst: I will create a lasting peace between organics and synthetics.
Programmer *grabs Catalyst by the shoulders and smiles: You and me man. We're gonna change the world!.

later:

Catalyst: Master! Am I still to create lasting peace between organics and synthetics?
Programmer: ...yeah?
*Catalyst activates Reapers.


*Snip*


 


LOL 

Programmer looks at Reaper: What the ****?   <<<< the first ever occurance that phrase ever being uttered.

As for somthing like the Grid - it could work  but there core  lynch pin the Synthetics Vs Organics it  that.. Oragnics  still have trouble accepting Synthetics right to life and Synthetics can't accept that organics are governed by logic.  Unless  there is understanding achieved between that two on those fundamental issues even in the Grid  that same issus would  carry over. Its a flaw in how each precieve each other. It would be cool idea and its a  step in a right direction into openning that dialogue. 

Paragon Shepard post Control ending is alot like Tieria Erde  after he merged with quantum computer Vede.

"Now we've entrusted the future to mankind. As a part of Veda, I'll be
watching over you all. Until the time of the upcoming dialogues. Farewell, everyone."
 


In way  Gundam 00 Played the same card as Mass Effect 3 but did soo much better in the entire series was built around the contridiction of  armed interevines to bring peace.   ME 3 contriction  that is The Catalyst fails and is bad because  reasoning was inject at the end of the trilogoy.  

Same as CLU fundemental flaw being simular to the Catalyst  that when he was created  its creators did not understand  the nature of the problem they were dealing with... 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 juillet 2012 - 03:26 .


#2443
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Had to make a thread about it. Continue discussing it there?

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Finally! My new Catalist Shepard avatar :)

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Hmh, someone should make a fanart of Shepard being in Catalyst form.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Had to make a thread about it. Continue discussing it there?

 


we can continue to discuss here,  I actually trying to find more Control ending fan art .

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nitefyre410 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Had to make a thread about it. Continue discussing it there?

 


we can continue to discuss here,  I actually trying to find more Control ending fan art .


There is Control Ending fan art? I think it can be posted here. This will not be an off-topic :)

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Seival wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Had to make a thread about it. Continue discussing it there?

 


we can continue to discuss here,  I actually trying to find more Control ending fan art .


There is Control Ending fan art? I think it can be posted here. This will not be an off-topic :)



Everything has fan art... the trick is finding   it ^^ ... though its only for the brave.. you encounter  rule 34 of things that are not supposed to do those things... *shudders*

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Seival wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Had to make a thread about it. Continue discussing it there?

 


we can continue to discuss here,  I actually trying to find more Control ending fan art .


There is Control Ending fan art? I think it can be posted here. This will not be an off-topic :)


Well, that isn't off topic at all.


Though, sadly.

Only fanarts on Control ending were already posted.

There's more on Synthesis then no Control while Destroy ending fanarts are coming out daily.

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Mesina2 wrote...

*Snip*


Well, that isn't off topic at all.


Though, sadly.

Only fanarts on Control ending were already posted.

There's more on Synthesis then no Control while Destroy ending fanarts are coming out daily.

 

the best piece I found so face   Stellarstatelogic 's  Qurian Artstyle  Control ending
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