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[Helios969]

frylock23 wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

"We will fight, we will sacrifice, and we will find a way."

Note: This is for the Destroy Ending that does NOT Involve Earth being destroyd and being Vaporized. This is for the Ending where all Organics Prosper, and the Reaper fall. 

What are the conditions for bringing about the earth being destroyed ending?

It's the rush through and pretty much ignore the side stuff so your EMS is so low you can barely finish the game ending. Apparently, if you saved the collector base in ME2, it will be a control endings instead of destroy. I don't know if this one still devastates the Earth or not, but apparently the lowest possible EMS destroy version does.

The reason I asked is that's pretty much what I did 1st go around.  1850 EMS.  Still didn't destroy earth.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

With that much EMS, though everyone Survived, the Earth is still devastated: Buildings like Big Ben are still destroyed. Lives are still lost in some way, maybe crushed by falling buildings, and the soldiers do not raise their weapons to victory.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 28 mai 2012 - 12:49 .

[frylock23]

Helios969 wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

"We will fight, we will sacrifice, and we will find a way."

Note: This is for the Destroy Ending that does NOT Involve Earth being destroyd and being Vaporized. This is for the Ending where all Organics Prosper, and the Reaper fall. 

What are the conditions for bringing about the earth being destroyed ending?

It's the rush through and pretty much ignore the side stuff so your EMS is so low you can barely finish the game ending. Apparently, if you saved the collector base in ME2, it will be a control endings instead of destroy. I don't know if this one still devastates the Earth or not, but apparently the lowest possible EMS destroy version does.

The reason I asked is that's pretty much what I did 1st go around.  1850 EMS.  Still didn't destroy earth.

I've also heard it's possible to not see anyone come out of the Normandy too, as if no one in it survived.

I've never done it with any of my playthroughs (I've only actually finished twice); I don't consider all the side stuff to be that tedious, not after all the stupid planet scanning in ME2.

[robarcool]

I picked synthesis first time and stand by it, but all the subsequent playthroughs (which I will finish after EC is released) will end with destroy.

[Zix13]

RavenEyry wrote...

If forced to choose, I go for the one literally everyone that wasn't a reaper or working for one told me to for three games. IT is just an added bonus.

Yuuuup.....................................................

[grey_wind]

My favourite version of the Destroy ending for some reason is where you blow everything up. At least that way Joker gets what's coming to the damn traitor, and everybody gets a quick death rather than mass starvation and galactic wars over scraps of food waged on the remains a dead Earth.

Modifié par grey_wind, 28 mai 2012 - 01:11 .

[gmboy902]

The destroy ending is the only one that gives us real evidence of the end of the Reapers in the Milky Way (assuming Starboy didn't amass another force still in dark space).

The destroy ending does not force synthetic tech onto a large portion of organics who may not want it. Screw the synthetics, Legion and EDI are the only ones I actually liked. Legion is dead and EDI ran off with her crippled boy toy.

But best of all, the destroy ending takes that astromaniac's half-assed "rational" and shoves it right in his plump, glimmering face.

[Shallyah]

Couldn't respect myself as human being if I picked anything that allows the Reapers, murderers of thousands of races and trillions upon trillions of lives, still exist.

"Maybe you’re right. Maybe we can’t win this. But we will fight you regardless, just like we did Sovereign. Just like I’m doing now. Yes, people will die. Maybe we’ll lose half the galaxy. Maybe more. But I will do whatever it takes to rid the galaxy of the Reaper threat! However “insignificant” we might be. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find a way. That’s what humans do." --- Shepard to Harbinger, Arrival.

Modifié par Shallyah, 28 mai 2012 - 01:24 .

[Navasha]

Except for my worst possible playthrough Shepard, they will all pick destroy.

[Chief Commander]

Vox Draco wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

HELL YEAH! Why else would they show Anderson shooting the tubes? Anderson is almost like your father. An idol to you. Shep and Anderson have a great relationship and I firmly believe Shepard would follow Anderson anywhere and into any battle. So if HE shoots the tubes so should WE. Because that was our main goal all along AND we get to live! So sign me up!

Oh no!!!! I totally forgot that they actually show TIM grabbing blue and Anderson doing red. Damn, I would have used this in my vid instead of just implying it. Well, maybe I'll do an EC...

But yeah, Anderson shooting red. If nothing else, this is really a good point to choose destroy. How can you betray Anderson? I could not, and I wasn't even born in London!

One of my major reasons to go with Destroy was that scene with Anderson. I freaking love his character. =)

[NoUserNameHere]

Navasha wrote...

Except for my worst possible playthrough Shepard, they will all pick destroy.

I'm in pretty much the same boat. Only have one really Renegade Shepard who can't resist the urge to rule an unstoppable army. One Shepard hates synthetics, so Destroy is a given. My main Shepard is a Sole Survivor; he needs to survive. There's only one femShep who's anywhere near the fence, endgame choice wise.

[BluSoldier]

Organics are simply superior. I hold no remorse for the synthetics; they are not actually alive.

[Jason Ralph]

I set out to destroy the Reapers. Not Control them. Not join them. Add in Garrus and his comment about killing 10,000 to save 10,000 and I'm cool with it. Shepard surviving, crew surviving, galaxy surviving is icing on the cake.

[Shallyah]

Control is a good option for a Renegade Shepard. "I'm god now. And I've been taking names during all these years".

Other than that, I don't see any viability for an option in which you at best become the next Catalyst to lose your humanity sooner or later and continue the cycles and at worst you just die in vain as the starbrat smirks.

[kitteh-1]

I have lots of issues with control and synthesize (both philosophical and "wtf that just doesn't make sense). Destroy is my lesser of three evils.
To be honest, I don't even know how synthesize works. (inb4 space magic) Is new material being added to all organic life? Or is DNA just being shuffled around in a way that ignores all understanding of biochemistry/molecular biology? (As someone who has a fairly good grasp of how DNA actually works, it irks me constantly how movies and games mess with the concept like it can explain away anything.) And how is it different than Saren's goal?

Besides, any doubt I had was erased by the "star kid." I wanted to kick him and anything having to do with him squarely in the nuts. Metaphorically.

[DeadpoolBub]

I like to believe that if the endings ARE real (aka no IT) that the Little S*** was just lying about synthetics dying to make Shepard do you what HE wanted. If Shepard can live through it, then why can't the Geth?

[kitteh-1]

DeadpoolBub wrote...

I like to believe that if the endings ARE real (aka no IT) that the Little S*** was just lying about synthetics dying to make Shepard do you what HE wanted. If Shepard can live through it, then why can't the Geth?

I've even been hearing snippets here and there that EDI can be shown to survive walking out of the wreckage, or some dev said she survives, or whatever. So the whole "all synthetics die" thing is suspect.

[Sisterofshane]

DeadpoolBub wrote...

I like to believe that if the endings ARE real (aka no IT) that the Little S*** was just lying about synthetics dying to make Shepard do you what HE wanted. If Shepard can live through it, then why can't the Geth?

This is my line of thinking, at least when I'm metagaming.

As for my Shepard, she believes that the Reapers are unrepentent monsters, and allowing them to live has bad implications for the Galaxy.  She believes she would sacrifice every single life fighting for earth if it meant that the Reapers would be stopped for certain.

[SuperVulcan]

Red was always my favorite color.

[Shaani]

One cycle is 50,000 years. 

A million years is 20 cycles.

The Leviathan of Dis was Reaper that was1 billion years old.  That's one thousand million.

We're not looking at a few cycles here.  The galactic extinctions have occured at least tens of thousands of times, possibly more.  All of them, all of those galaxy spanning civilizations, all of their people worked on the Crucible, and all of them failed, and as they died, all of them hoped that, someday, someone would finish their work and end the Reapers.

I cannot turn away from that.  There will be losses if you choose to use the Crucible to destroy them . . . there have been losses already.  But the Reapers  have comitted crimes that are monsterous beyond words, beyond comprehension.

I can't let them continue existing.  All of history has been building up to the moment of their destruction.  They must be brought to justice. 

[Evolution13]

Destroy will always be the correct option for me. I doubt anything in the EC will change my mind. It's what we spent three games fighting for, It's what so many sacrificed their lives for. The end of the Reapers. The comic at http://suthnmeh.deviantart.com/ sums it up nicely. It's The only way to be certain that the Galaxy is free to evolve naturally without Reaper influence. Nothing that snot-nosed glowing kid can say will convince me otherwise.

The idea of Control is dangerous. It's tempting people with godlike power. We've also seen that it's an effective method of indoctrination. The Reapers planted this idea in both Protheans and TIM to gain control over them, It's also hypocritical for Shepard to choose considering everything (s)he's been through.

Synthesis is forcing a change on the galaxy that it didn't ask for, and Mordin suggested in ME2 that it would lead to stagnation. Also the peace between the Geth and Quarians that's furthered by the Geth integrating themselves into Quarian suits suggests that Synthesis will happen naturally over time in a much healthier and productive manner if the Reapers just leave us the hell alone!

Modifié par Evolution13, 28 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[Sisterofshane]

Evolution13 wrote...
It's what we spent three games fighting for, It's what so many sacrificed their lives for.

I totally agree with you here.  Picking anything other than destroy is a slap in the face to all of the people that you have been fighting for.  They've fought, bled and died to end the Reaper's influence on the galaxy.

If I had to rank the endings from worst to best, it would be control, Synthesis, and the best would be destroy.

[Cribbian]

Destroy is the only choice

[Tiberis]

I chose control on my first playthrough. Destroy on the second. And just to see what all the buzz was about, I did synthesis on my third. Destroy ending was the most satisfying to me; I chose it for my fourth playthrough and I will do it again when the EC first comes out. If the geth and EDI are truly destroyed too than I will be quite upset especially after just securing a future for them. However Shepard supposedly lives and the EC should clarify what happens after it all goes down.

More importantly, destroying the reapers has been the whole point of all three games and I don't like abandoning that just because a ghostly child says so.

[Lookout1390]

Nice to see other people who think logically, and have common sense.

Destroy, all day every day.