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"We destroy them, or they destroy us" - Destroy Ending Support Thread.


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[quote]Vox Draco wrote...

[quote]mass perfection wrote...

Reapers are abominations.[/quote]

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All Shepard vs. Illusive Man Conversations (Paragon)
www.youtube.com/watch

All Shepard vs. Illusive Man Conversations (Renegade)
www.youtube.com/watch

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Bill Casey wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

^I hate to be the party pooper but isn't that just directed at James only? as a way of encouragement but not a motto

I like to think what was written in the script actually means something...

Vigilant111 wrote...

it also reinforces the idea that destroy is renegade which I despise, correct me if I am wrong

It is both the Paragon and the Renegade option...


So the conclusion is that the best way to end reaper threat is to fight them, synthesis/control supporters won't like that

I still view destroy as a paragon option, it shows conviction and honour, even to the Geth and EDI, painting the tube red is again...utter bulls**t

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liggy002 wrote...

I support destroying the Reapers, but not by shooting  a pipe.


Indeed.

I'd also rather not genocide an ally too.

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[quote]Vox Draco wrote...

[quote]mass perfection wrote...

Reapers are abominations.[/quote]

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Only destroying the reapers ends the threat. Remember in the derelict reaper that vid from that researcher with the spooky talk? Even a dead god can dream. A god is a force, it warps reality just by being there.

I think the reapers just can't help indoctrinating. They can maintain different degrees of indoctrination if they pay attention, like with Saren, but I'm sure Sovereign didn't intend to make Cole and the other farmers hear "the shriek of the damned", and it's clear the dead reaper didn't want to mess with the researchers minds. You know. Since it's dead and all.

With control and synthesis you still have reapers around. People pick synthesis because of what might happen in the far future as someone somewhere might make an AI that happens to like murdering organics for some reason, that maybe will evolve faster than organics and become capable to fulfill its desires. On the other hand, you have the very real reaper threat, which is here and now and you have repeatedly been shown what they do just by existing.

Modifié par Nyoka, 04 juin 2012 - 09:13 .


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The only good Reaper is a dead Reaper.

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Han Shot First wrote...

The only good Reaper is a dead Reaper.


"Fist bump"

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So I just posted in another thread (and it was pretty off-topic, and my own thread as well <_<) about EDI and Destroy. I had read that EDI would show up at the end of Destroy if either A) you had a love interest and EDI was your most-used squadmate or B) you had no LI and EDI was your first- or second-most used squadmate.

I just completed a playthrough that met these conditions. Javik stepped out of the ship after Joker and Liara, and I didn't use him in a single mission the entire game. What gives? This seems like a patch 1.03 ninja change, even though it was stated that EDI appearing during Destroy was not a bug.

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As a matter of fact even dead reapers are bad.

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This thread has my official seal of approval.  :)

My video analysis on why Destroy not only is the best choice, but was MEANT to be the only true choice by Bioware:


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Nyoka wrote...

As a matter of fact even dead reapers are bad.


Very true!! :? So then what happens to Earth?

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I suggest we get rid of the reaper problem before stepping into general synthetic/organic conflicts, the stuff the Catalyst says is just a futile deflection of attention

Catalyst: "ooooo but wait, we are not the evil ones, it is the synthetics that are evil, don't kill us cos we will help u"

Shepard: "I call your bulls**t Catalyst, if u could help, u would have done it ages ago"

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RebelReya wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

As a matter of fact even dead reapers are bad.


Very true!! :? So then what happens to Earth?

Everybody around a reaper turns insane. Considering they are invading all major population centers, you can tell pretty soon the earth is going to be a fun planet for aliens to watch from a safe distance.

However ME3 players weren't meant to know what happened in ME1 and ME2 (best entry point!) so for them, just seeing the reapers dropping dead is enough. They're dead, we win, period. They don't know what we learned in the derelict reaper and you're not supposed to care either.

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Nyoka wrote...

RebelReya wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

As a matter of fact even dead reapers are bad.


Very true!! :? So then what happens to Earth?

Everybody around a reaper turns insane. Considering they are invading all major population centers, you can tell pretty soon the earth is going to be a fun planet for aliens to watch from a safe distance.

However ME3 players weren't meant to know what happened in ME1 and ME2 (best entry point!) so for them, just seeing the reapers dropping dead is enough. They're dead, we win, period. They don't know what we learned in the derelict reaper and you're not supposed to care either.


Of course not, then they couldn't call it art.

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Blarhuguabaghargh

A wild control advocate appears!

You people are all too emotional, you can't take a step back and look at the situation as a whole. Like bulls in the arena, all you see is red, for revenge and hatred "Geth? Bah, they don't matter, I'll kill them all to sate my rampant emotional needs!"

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Nyoka wrote...

RebelReya wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

As a matter of fact even dead reapers are bad.


Very true!! :? So then what happens to Earth?

Everybody around a reaper turns insane. Considering they are invading all major population centers, you can tell pretty soon the earth is going to be a fun planet for aliens to watch from a safe distance.

However ME3 players weren't meant to know what happened in ME1 and ME2 (best entry point!) so for them, just seeing the reapers dropping dead is enough. They're dead, we win, period. They don't know what we learned in the derelict reaper and you're not supposed to care either.


the derelict reaper still had a functioning core though until shep blew the thing up and as far as we know the ones affected by the crucibal dont

but the ending is so bare bones when it comes to details so who knows!

hell for all we know in the blue ending we could order the damn reapers to fly into the nearest star if starbrat was telling the truth but who knows!

and synthasis just makes no sense either way so lol

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 04 juin 2012 - 10:58 .


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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blarhuguabaghargh

A wild control advocate appears!

You people are all too emotional, you can't take a step back and look at the situation as a whole. Like bulls in the arena, all you see is red, for revenge and hatred "Geth? Bah, they don't matter, I'll kill them all to sate my rampant emotional needs!"



"Reaper, a label created by the Protheans to give voice to ther destruction..... We simply ARE"

Modifié par Subguy614, 04 juin 2012 - 11:02 .


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Subguy614 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blarhuguabaghargh

A wild control advocate appears!

You people are all too emotional, you can't take a step back and look at the situation as a whole. Like bulls in the arena, all you see is red, for revenge and hatred "Geth? Bah, they don't matter, I'll kill them all to sate my rampant emotional needs!"



"Reaper, a label created by the Protheans to give voice to ther destruction..... We simply ARE"


"Why are you here?"

Kind of shattered that persona of malevolence. Can't listen to Harbinger or Sovereign without laughing. 

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Hey, I think control is a legitimate choice, it just has renegade consequences. Shepard dies. But it's not necessarily the right thing to do. Does the cycle end for good? Or is the galaxy going to face the reapers again in another 50,000 years? Control doesn't have that guarantee, destroy does.

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Yes, destroy is the only option...
and no. We should not destroy them by shooting a tube.

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RebelReya wrote...

Hey, I think control is a legitimate choice, it just has renegade consequences. Shepard dies. But it's not necessarily the right thing to do. Does the cycle end for good? Or is the galaxy going to face the reapers again in another 50,000 years? Control doesn't have that guarantee, destroy does.


Depends how you imagine the outcome of your choice.

If you choose to see control as an unknown then fine, or even choose to have negative consequences, fine, I can see why, control comes completely out of the blue and I don't even like it either. 

I choose to see it almost the opposite. Destroy is the sure choice, you pick it, stuff happens, end of. But there's nothing you can do about it. Dead Shepard? Dead Geth? Dead EDI? Destroyed Relays? Apart from the first one, they're all things that happen unavoidably. At least with the blue door I can imagine round the problems BioWare sought to put in my way. Control allows more freedom. 

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

RebelReya wrote...

Hey, I think control is a legitimate choice, it just has renegade consequences. Shepard dies. But it's not necessarily the right thing to do. Does the cycle end for good? Or is the galaxy going to face the reapers again in another 50,000 years? Control doesn't have that guarantee, destroy does.


Depends how you imagine the outcome of your choice.

If you choose to see control as an unknown then fine, or even choose to have negative consequences, fine, I can see why, control comes completely out of the blue and I don't even like it either. 

I choose to see it almost the opposite. Destroy is the sure choice, you pick it, stuff happens, end of. But there's nothing you can do about it. Dead Shepard? Dead Geth? Dead EDI? Destroyed Relays? Apart from the first one, they're all things that happen unavoidably. At least with the blue door I can imagine round the problems BioWare sought to put in my way. Control allows more freedom. 


That's what u chose to think

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Vigilant111 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Depends how you imagine the outcome of your choice.

If you choose to see control as an unknown then fine, or even choose to have negative consequences, fine, I can see why, control comes completely out of the blue and I don't even like it either. 

I choose to see it almost the opposite. Destroy is the sure choice, you pick it, stuff happens, end of. But there's nothing you can do about it. Dead Shepard? Dead Geth? Dead EDI? Destroyed Relays? Apart from the first one, they're all things that happen unavoidably. At least with the blue door I can imagine round the problems BioWare sought to put in my way. Control allows more freedom. 


That's what u chose to think


Obviously. 

Believe differently if you want, but this is face-value time. You either take everything the Catalyst says as wrote, or you don't. So which is it? 

Next time you object to another choice I'll remember this. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 juin 2012 - 11:22 .


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iakus wrote...

 How about us "all the endings are terrible" crowd?  :P


I'd count myself with that crowd.  Though I do honestly think "Destroy" was the lesser of three evils.