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"We destroy them, or they destroy us" - Destroy Ending Support Thread.


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-Draikin- wrote...

I don't support any of the 3 endings. Destroy is "my" ending but I can't accept the fact that it involves Shepard stabbing his/her synthetics friends in the back, especially when those helped him realize the Catalyst's reasoning is wrong in the first place. Have EDI and the geth survive (without their Reaper upgrades) and then I'll certainly pick Destroy. Control and Synthesis might as well not even exist for me. I'll never accept my Shepard acting like a complete hypocrite by becoming the Reaper overmind, not will I accept Shepard changing all organic life in the galaxy into an new articifially created, and therefore ironically synthetic, lifefom. I'd rather not choose anything and try to forget this franchise ever existed rather than having to choose between 3 endings that "corrupt" my Shepard's character.

How is this any different from any number of morally ambiguous decisions Shepard had to make before ME3's ending? Wiping out all synthetic life might be big in terms of scale, but it's no more 'corrupt' than destroying/rewriting heretic Geth or keeping/deleting Maelon's ill-gotten data. Shepard has always been forced to make tough decisions and weigh difficult consequences against one another, but now it's not OK for his/her character when that's the strength Mass Effect was built on?

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So, what do you think after Leviathan? I'm doing another playthrough of the trilogy with a new Shepard, including leviathan, and will choose destroy. A lot of people seem to think that leviathan weakens destroy, but I feel the opposite.

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webhead921 wrote...

So, what do you think after Leviathan? I'm doing another playthrough of the trilogy with a new Shepard, including leviathan, and will choose destroy. A lot of people seem to think that leviathan weakens destroy, but I feel the opposite.


They made adeliberate attempt to sabotage destroy by undermining one of its pillars(freedom to develop) but i'll still pick destroy.

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Destroy!! No more no less :)

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Destroy still is my canon choice. If I chose deliberately to disregard Catalyst's warning about possible synthetic vs organics conflict, I'm not going to get scared by few mind-controlling squids. I believe in the galaxy, not in some magic ultimate solutions for every problem we have/could have. Leviathan are in no position to be a threat for a long time.

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ParaNeuman wrote...

Destroy!! No more no less :)


Pretty Much

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I picked destroy so that organics could have a chance again. Sure, as what happened in Leviathan's age, organics may very well create synthetics that destroy all organic life, but I simply wanted to give organics the chance to make a CHOICE again. If they do create synthetics that destroy all life, then that is unfortunate. But it will be a result of choices made by multiple organic civilizations, and not because of some twisted logic conjured up by an "intelligence".

That, and the Catalyst's line when Shepard talks about the crucible. When the Catalyst says "We believed the concept (of the crucible) had been eradicated. Clearly, organics are more resourceful than we realized." I realized what needed to be done. The united forces of the galaxy proved that they could do the unthinkable, by banding together under one common goal; survival. I think the Leviathan's error was in enslaving other species to make them do their own bidding, instead of allowing each species to thrive under its own accord. This is mirrored with the protheans, whose empire crumbled because they homogenized the galaxy under one empire, rather than allowing each species to thrive on its own accord, creating diversity in the galactic landscape.

The organics of this cycle do not suffer that same fate, and their stand against the reapers proves that just because something has happened in the past (organics creating synthetics that wipe them out) - doesn't mean this process has to repeat.

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See my signature for the post I made in favor of Destroy. I just can't bring myself to pick any other chose when it's all said and done. The Reapers are too dangerous and too powerful to be allowed to exist (Synthesis) or allowed to come under anyone's control (Control)

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SentinelShepParagon wrote...

See my signature for the post I made in favor of Destroy. I just can't bring myself to pick any other chose when it's all said and done. The Reapers are too dangerous and too powerful to be allowed to exist (Synthesis) or allowed to come under anyone's control (Control)


I'm all about doing things that may be dangerous in the future if it saves lies right now.

I'm not going to kill entire species based on the possibility that something might go wrong at some point.

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SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I'm all about doing things that may be dangerous in the future if it saves lies right now.

I'm not going to kill entire species based on the possibility that something might go wrong at some point.


And I´m not going to trust a whole galaxy´s life on what reaper guy said. When I first reached the ending, this kid was like "Hi Shepard. We just met, but I am the leader of the reapers, so you can trust me.  I know you came to destroy the reapers to end this war, safe the galaxy and so on, but I think you shouldn´t and here´s why..."

In my opinion, every player who knows what the reapers are should stop listening right there.

Modifié par Argolas, 08 septembre 2012 - 07:49 .


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This Thread needs to be more active.

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Vigil_N7 wrote...

I picked destroy so that organics could have a chance again. Sure, as what happened in Leviathan's age, organics may very well create synthetics that destroy all organic life, but I simply wanted to give organics the chance to make a CHOICE again. If they do create synthetics that destroy all life, then that is unfortunate. But it will be a result of choices made by multiple organic civilizations, and not because of some twisted logic conjured up by an "intelligence".

That, and the Catalyst's line when Shepard talks about the crucible. When the Catalyst says "We believed the concept (of the crucible) had been eradicated. Clearly, organics are more resourceful than we realized." I realized what needed to be done. The united forces of the galaxy proved that they could do the unthinkable, by banding together under one common goal; survival. I think the Leviathan's error was in enslaving other species to make them do their own bidding, instead of allowing each species to thrive under its own accord. This is mirrored with the protheans, whose empire crumbled because they homogenized the galaxy under one empire, rather than allowing each species to thrive on its own accord, creating diversity in the galactic landscape.

The organics of this cycle do not suffer that same fate, and their stand against the reapers proves that just because something has happened in the past (organics creating synthetics that wipe them out) - doesn't mean this process has to repeat.


Yes... This!  Agree, totally. :wizard:

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Oh and taken from the matrix revolutions right at the end::


And how long  you think this peace will last?

AS LONG AS IT CAN, as long as it can!

Modifié par Fedi.St, 23 septembre 2012 - 05:17 .


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 Here it is! I was looking for this thread.  Can't have destroy ending support falling off to the nether regions of 1k+ forum pages.  :)

So... who all went destroy? Show your support!  ;)

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Argolas wrote...

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I'm all about doing things that may be dangerous in the future if it saves lies right now.

I'm not going to kill entire species based on the possibility that something might go wrong at some point.


And I´m not going to trust a whole galaxy´s life on what reaper guy said. When I first reached the ending, this kid was like "Hi Shepard. We just met, but I am the leader of the reapers, so you can trust me.  I know you came to destroy the reapers to end this war, safe the galaxy and so on, but I think you shouldn´t and here´s why..."

In my opinion, every player who knows what the reapers are should stop listening right there.


Exactly Argolas!  BTW - I like your video (was it yours?), there is only one choice. :)

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Calamity wrote...

Argolas wrote...

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I'm all about doing things that may be dangerous in the future if it saves lies right now.

I'm not going to kill entire species based on the possibility that something might go wrong at some point.


And I´m not going to trust a whole galaxy´s life on what reaper guy said. When I first reached the ending, this kid was like "Hi Shepard. We just met, but I am the leader of the reapers, so you can trust me.  I know you came to destroy the reapers to end this war, safe the galaxy and so on, but I think you shouldn´t and here´s why..."

In my opinion, every player who knows what the reapers are should stop listening right there.


Exactly Argolas!  BTW - I like your video (was it yours?), there is only one choice. :)


I loved that video because it 100% reflects my thoughts, it is not mine though. The one who made it is called "pro5" here on BSN and he made a thread for it:

VIDEO explanation of why I think there is only ONE true choice and what CONTROL and...

Modifié par Argolas, 05 octobre 2012 - 01:34 .


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Argolas wrote...

Calamity wrote...

Argolas wrote...

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I'm all about doing things that may be dangerous in the future if it saves lies right now.

I'm not going to kill entire species based on the possibility that something might go wrong at some point.


And I´m not going to trust a whole galaxy´s life on what reaper guy said. When I first reached the ending, this kid was like "Hi Shepard. We just met, but I am the leader of the reapers, so you can trust me.  I know you came to destroy the reapers to end this war, safe the galaxy and so on, but I think you shouldn´t and here´s why..."

In my opinion, every player who knows what the reapers are should stop listening right there.


Exactly Argolas!  BTW - I like your video (was it yours?), there is only one choice. :)


I loved that video because it 100% reflects my thoughts, it is not mine though. The one who made it is called "pro5" here on BSN and he made a thread for it:

VIDEO explanation of why I think there is only ONE true choice and what CONTROL and.../11799672


Thanks for the link! It reflects my thoughts exactly as well and he put in what I have always said about the geth dieing in destroy - the starbrat doesnt actually say they will die. He just says it will target all synthetics.  I will also add that we dont know that it was destroy that actually made Edi's name appear on that wall. A dead reaper could have fallen on her or something. :P

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Definitely destroy... it's not perfect, but the other two options seem absolutely evil to me (I've still got the EC/Leviathan to play through, so I dunno if they change anything in that matter). And destroying the Reapers was what Shepard was striving for all this time anyway.

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It's not really a case of Destroy being my favourite, it's more that Destroy is the least ridiculous ending. I will never choose anything other than Destroy because Control and Synthesis are truly laughable.

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Podge 90 wrote...

It's not really a case of Destroy being my favourite, it's more that Destroy is the least ridiculous ending. I will never choose anything other than Destroy because Control and Synthesis are truly laughable.


i totally agree. Although i will say that i would also choose refuse before i ever choose control or synthesis.

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iakus wrote...

 How about us "all the endings are terrible" crowd?  :P


let's start a thread because your opinion is similar to my opinion.

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RebelTitan428 wrote...

iakus wrote...

 How about us "all the endings are terrible" crowd?  :P


let's start a thread because your opinion is similar to my opinion.



A "all endings are terrible"- thread? That´s... brilliant! -_-