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[Krozuhsky]

First:Take a drink every time someone says:Nerf the Phantom!
Second:The Geth would like to speak with you.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

 I like that they team up with banshees now, they were so meant to be best friends. 

Banshee Barrier: So here's the plan you wait around the corner, I'll chase them right into your path.
Phantom Barrier: Then I jump out and run 'em through with my sword  Good plan bestie. 

Modifié par Sarcastic Tasha, 28 mai 2012 - 11:39 .

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

landylan wrote...

Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

landylan wrote...

reapers are definitely the easiest faction. hunters and phantoms make the other factions way more difficult. phantoms are a threat at any range. im ok with that. they turn invisible. im ok with that. they go into god mode by changing the color of their hands.....i guess im ok with that. the only thing that i hate is that they constantly flip and my saber is doing jack crap to them bc they have so much damage resistance. i headshotted them and i think i did less than half a bar bc he was able to see the bullet coming and flip through the air in .0000001 seconds....ridiculous

Ballistic Blades for the stagger, and Batarian Heavy Melee for the finish. Head explodes. Satisfaction.  I once even had the satisifaction of watching one's head explode AND see its corpse rag doll across the map. <3

ummm no. ive been instakilled in the middle of melees against phantoms with several classes. im not gonna punch em in the face with the slowest melee in the game and the ballistic blades dont always stagger

Batarian melee gets a whopping damage resistance while you are in the animation to balance it, and if you have blade armour on it will kill itself if it tries to slice you. Explosive ballistic blades get a second stagger when they go off which is much more reliable. Not that I like batarians on gold - they are powerful as heck but I miss being able to dodge..(and they suck when you get stun-locked by geth rockets)

You cant go wrong with the old, cloak, energy drain, claymore in the face combo in my opinion - though a class like that isnt good against groups so you have to play conservatively and save yourself for the big guys and phantoms/hunters etc.

[landylan]

IAMREALITY wrote...

RazRei wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

stricko wrote...

@ IAMREALITY
Hey everyone this guy is a troll . Don't waste your time engaging him on this or any other forum.

ROFLMAO.  You're adorable!

Last thing I am is a troll.  What I am is someone who doesn't put up with bull****.  Get used to it pal.    I ain't goin anywhere. 

God you are so f'en annoying.  All you do in threads is just post bull**** and leave afterwards with no proof of anything.  Do us all a favor and get off the forums

Yes, cause, like, people post proof of stuff all the time.  And if I annoy you too bad.  You surely can figure out how to get over it.

And I think it's hilarious that you wanna say all I post is bull****, when if you look at 99% of the posts in any given thread on this entire forum the posts are nothing but bull****.   I post what I post, sometimes thoughtful sometimes not, but always honest, blunt and willing to stand up to people who bully or bull****. 

And don't we all leave afterwards?  Or do you actually post in a thread and then never leave?

Oh, and I have no plans to go anywhere for the time being.   Hopefully you'll be able to find some way to adapt or something.

(and really, is it so hard for you to debate on context?  Nothing weaker than when people like you can only use personal attacks instead of logical argument.   I really got to start ignoring these childish attacks more.  So flame all ya want, it just makes you look weak, and unless ya can debate me on the merits then don't expect any further responses)

youve not used this "debating" tactic with anyone else youve made angry. you just flat out insult people. razrei said made sense in their post. you know what razrei means when they said you leave. you stirred up something and go. you will end up going somewhere bc pretty soon someone is going to report you. i dont know how it works but if the first ban isnt permanent, the second will be

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Use a scorpion if you have trouble aiming

[landylan]

Krozuhsky wrote...

First:Take a drink every time someone says:Nerf the Phantom!
Second:The Geth would like to speak with you.

hunters are the only unit that make the geth op...not as big a problem for me as they are with others since i always play a geth, batarian soldier, and turian sentinel. the only thing i hate is they shoot my melee infiltrator while they are in the middle of a stun animation sometimes...

[landylan]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Use a scorpion if you have trouble aiming

that thing is puuurty heavy

[Krozuhsky]

landylan wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

First:Take a drink every time someone says:Nerf the Phantom!
Second:The Geth would like to speak with you.

hunters are the only unit that make the geth op...not as big a problem for me as they are with others since i always play a geth, batarian soldier, and turian sentinel. the only thing i hate is they shoot my melee infiltrator while they are in the middle of a stun animation sometimes...

Er, I meant Hunter Mode. Sorry if I wasnt clear.

[Hexi-decimal]

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Phantoms are the one unit that adds a bit of fear into cerberus . Everything else is a walking joke. Guardians ,Troopers, the Atlas, and Engineers are all free kills. Phantoms are the only challenging thing in that whole bunch.

You see a phantom in a group, take cover and call it out on your mic.Have your team focus fire on her. Problem solved.

Each enemy faction needs that unit you need your team to focus on.

I know this has been brought up a ton of times but If the phantom is too hard then switch your main class to Asari adept . They are the anti-phantom, ok they are the anti-every unit, lol!

turrets are also incredibly deadly. stasis is not the answer. im not changing my class for that. my team doesnt help me when im with randoms and you cant focus fire if you have multiple phantoms around you on gold. changing their damage resistance would still keep them a deadly unit too

I disagree, your class set up is just not suited to kill Phantoms, simple as that.  If you have poop team mates who won't help, then you are out of luck man.  I don't think the answer is to nerf phantoms so they are easily killable by everyone.  Either get some people who can help kill the phantoms, like someone with stasis or deal.

Lots of BE's work well for me.

biotic explosions?????????????????? is that a joke??? have you tried hitting them with a biotic power thats not reave on gold

Whats a joke is how everytime some good suggestion comes up you have to take it off the table as a possibility...like reave.   So Your argument is basically boild down to "waaaah I can't kill phantoms on my own in a co-op game waaaah"

[landylan]

Drummernate wrote...

Oh my gosh...

Certain Phantoms are out to troll me I swear...

One of them dodged count it.... 32 shots in a row.

Every shot hit it, yet it did no damage, and was aimed at the head.

Sorry, but even with adrenaline rush slow-mo, you cannot dodge a bullet from a Saber.

hahahaha samething was happening to me. i didnt know what to do. ive never experienced them dodging sniper shots , so why are they dodging the saber?

[landylan]

Krozuhsky wrote...

landylan wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

First:Take a drink every time someone says:Nerf the Phantom!
Second:The Geth would like to speak with you.

hunters are the only unit that make the geth op...not as big a problem for me as they are with others since i always play a geth, batarian soldier, and turian sentinel. the only thing i hate is they shoot my melee infiltrator while they are in the middle of a stun animation sometimes...

Er, I meant Hunter Mode. Sorry if I wasnt clear.

how does hunter mode help with phantoms. if i see one cloak, i go mess it up with whatever class im using. theyre not that hard to see. hunter mode isnt that great

[Dracian]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Use a scorpion Go Silver if you have trouble aiming

Fixed.

Banshees are fine as they are. No need to buff/nerf/whatever.

/troll

Overload, Claymore, Energy Drain, Stasis, Submission Net, Grenades, Proximity Mine and Indra are few weapons/power that maw phantoms.

[landylan]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Phantoms are the one unit that adds a bit of fear into cerberus . Everything else is a walking joke. Guardians ,Troopers, the Atlas, and Engineers are all free kills. Phantoms are the only challenging thing in that whole bunch.

You see a phantom in a group, take cover and call it out on your mic.Have your team focus fire on her. Problem solved.

Each enemy faction needs that unit you need your team to focus on.

I know this has been brought up a ton of times but If the phantom is too hard then switch your main class to Asari adept . They are the anti-phantom, ok they are the anti-every unit, lol!

turrets are also incredibly deadly. stasis is not the answer. im not changing my class for that. my team doesnt help me when im with randoms and you cant focus fire if you have multiple phantoms around you on gold. changing their damage resistance would still keep them a deadly unit too

I disagree, your class set up is just not suited to kill Phantoms, simple as that.  If you have poop team mates who won't help, then you are out of luck man.  I don't think the answer is to nerf phantoms so they are easily killable by everyone.  Either get some people who can help kill the phantoms, like someone with stasis or deal.

Lots of BE's work well for me.

biotic explosions?????????????????? is that a joke??? have you tried hitting them with a biotic power thats not reave on gold

Whats a joke is how everytime some good suggestion comes up you have to take it off the table as a possibility...like reave.   So Your argument is basically boild down to "waaaah I can't kill phantoms on my own in a co-op game waaaah"

i never said reave couldnt help. its a great tactic. i just dont use that class. biotic explosions are worthless unless theyre stuck in the doorway behind an atlas. if you reread, im sure you'll see i never said reave was worthless. if i did its because im not focused on class or weapon specific tactics.... on gold they flip constantly when you use a power thats not an instacast, so it's pretty much impossible to detonate

Modifié par landylan, 28 mai 2012 - 12:00 .

[Rifneno]

Krozuhsky wrote...

First:Take a drink every time someone says:Nerf the Phantom!
Second:The Geth would like to speak with you.

Great idea.  At least dying of alcohol poisoning is more fun than a katana to the gut.

[Serkevan]

Lets go part by part:
Adepts: get rid of their barrier, cast singularity/reave/stasis/moar reave. Enjoy her death.
Soldiers: CS/Proxi mine/Carnage with knockdown/BBlades, or just krogan heavy melee.
Engineers: OVERLOAD ES GOOD.
Sentinel: Tech armor detonation always staggers them, proceed to permalock them down and have your team shoot them. If you are a batarian sentinel, change classes, it is useless anyway.
Infiltrator: Aim. Just that. Or use grenades when they are invisible, because, you know, they don't usually enter godmode if they are cloaked. If you are human, Cryoblast slows them.
Vanguard. Just lol. If you can't kill a phantom with any vanguard, you are doing it painfully wrong.

EDIT: if you happen to have an ED and an OL class, just techburst her and her friends to death. Guaranteed to die on the second tech burst.

Modifié par Serkevan, 28 mai 2012 - 12:02 .

[Hexi-decimal]

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Phantoms are the one unit that adds a bit of fear into cerberus . Everything else is a walking joke. Guardians ,Troopers, the Atlas, and Engineers are all free kills. Phantoms are the only challenging thing in that whole bunch.

You see a phantom in a group, take cover and call it out on your mic.Have your team focus fire on her. Problem solved.

Each enemy faction needs that unit you need your team to focus on.

I know this has been brought up a ton of times but If the phantom is too hard then switch your main class to Asari adept . They are the anti-phantom, ok they are the anti-every unit, lol!

turrets are also incredibly deadly. stasis is not the answer. im not changing my class for that. my team doesnt help me when im with randoms and you cant focus fire if you have multiple phantoms around you on gold. changing their damage resistance would still keep them a deadly unit too

I disagree, your class set up is just not suited to kill Phantoms, simple as that.  If you have poop team mates who won't help, then you are out of luck man.  I don't think the answer is to nerf phantoms so they are easily killable by everyone.  Either get some people who can help kill the phantoms, like someone with stasis or deal.

Lots of BE's work well for me.

biotic explosions?????????????????? is that a joke??? have you tried hitting them with a biotic power thats not reave on gold

Whats a joke is how everytime some good suggestion comes up you have to take it off the table as a possibility...like reave.   So Your argument is basically boild down to "waaaah I can't kill phantoms on my own in a co-op game waaaah"

i never said reave couldnt help. its a great tactic. i just dont use that class. biotic explosions are worthless unless theyre stuck in the doorway behind an atlas. if you reread, im sure you'll see i never said reave was worthless. if i did its because im not focused on class or weapon specific tactics.... on gold they flip constantly when you use a power thats not an instacast, so it's pretty much impossible to detonate

Ok...what class do you play then?

[snarf001]

Soldier's concussive shot can knock phantoms around silly. With a light weapon layout phantoms usually don't have a chance to recover from cs spamming.....even with multiple phantoms, cs cd at around 1.2 sec can keep 2 phantoms on the defensive or by knocking them to the floor constantly.

[Bufger]

Teamwork makes the dream work.

Going against a phantom solo is always difficult unless you can stun lock em, net them or stasis them. There are some enemies in this game that require a good amount of teamwork to take down and the only reason they have some much HP and abilities is to promote that teamwork.

I play gold. Stasis bubble is by far the best defense against them, i can stasis them for an infiltrator to headshot one after the other and they'd never get near us. Same goes for hunters (Pyros become the problem then)

[count_4]

landylan wrote...

reapers are definitely the easiest faction. hunters and phantoms make the other factions way more difficult. phantoms are a threat at any range. im ok with that. they turn invisible. im ok with that. they go into god mode by changing the color of their hands.....i guess im ok with that. the only thing that i hate is that they constantly flip and my saber is doing jack crap to them bc they have so much damage resistance. i headshotted them and i think i did less than half a bar bc he was able to see the bullet coming and flip through the air in .0000001 seconds....ridiculous

dont leave me tips unless you are a gold only player. has anyone noticed how they go flipso against certain weapons more?? ive never had a problem with a phantom flipping against a widow or kishok

this is GOLD only. dont comment if you dont only play gold please.

There are several classes that can kill a Phantom without a problem. If what you are playing isn't one of them...welcome to the world of team play. Because that's the purpose of co-op. If you can't handle somehing, leave it to a team mate who can.

Phantoms are fine the way they are.

Modifié par count_4, 28 mai 2012 - 12:11 .

[landylan]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

landylan wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Phantoms are the one unit that adds a bit of fear into cerberus . Everything else is a walking joke. Guardians ,Troopers, the Atlas, and Engineers are all free kills. Phantoms are the only challenging thing in that whole bunch.

You see a phantom in a group, take cover and call it out on your mic.Have your team focus fire on her. Problem solved.

Each enemy faction needs that unit you need your team to focus on.

I know this has been brought up a ton of times but If the phantom is too hard then switch your main class to Asari adept . They are the anti-phantom, ok they are the anti-every unit, lol!

turrets are also incredibly deadly. stasis is not the answer. im not changing my class for that. my team doesnt help me when im with randoms and you cant focus fire if you have multiple phantoms around you on gold. changing their damage resistance would still keep them a deadly unit too

I disagree, your class set up is just not suited to kill Phantoms, simple as that.  If you have poop team mates who won't help, then you are out of luck man.  I don't think the answer is to nerf phantoms so they are easily killable by everyone.  Either get some people who can help kill the phantoms, like someone with stasis or deal.

Lots of BE's work well for me.

biotic explosions?????????????????? is that a joke??? have you tried hitting them with a biotic power thats not reave on gold

Whats a joke is how everytime some good suggestion comes up you have to take it off the table as a possibility...like reave.   So Your argument is basically boild down to "waaaah I can't kill phantoms on my own in a co-op game waaaah"

i never said reave couldnt help. its a great tactic. i just dont use that class. biotic explosions are worthless unless theyre stuck in the doorway behind an atlas. if you reread, im sure you'll see i never said reave was worthless. if i did its because im not focused on class or weapon specific tactics.... on gold they flip constantly when you use a power thats not an instacast, so it's pretty much impossible to detonate

Ok...what class do you play then?

i play any class i feel like really. thats why im not looking for a class or weapon specific strategy.

[Clearly Balkan]

landylan wrote...

Clearly Balkan wrote...

I don't see a problem with Phantoms. They're usually dead with one W98/BW shot after ED on SI, or S on QI. Incendiary ammo + Targeting Mark 3. On GI with Javelin & PM combo Phantoms are easier to kill then Centurions.

im pretty sure you cant even drain their shield with one energy drain whil cloaked on gold

I never said that.

[IAMREALITY]

landylan wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

RazRei wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

stricko wrote...

@ IAMREALITY
Hey everyone this guy is a troll . Don't waste your time engaging him on this or any other forum.

ROFLMAO.  You're adorable!

Last thing I am is a troll.  What I am is someone who doesn't put up with bull****.  Get used to it pal.    I ain't goin anywhere. 

God you are so f'en annoying.  All you do in threads is just post bull**** and leave afterwards with no proof of anything.  Do us all a favor and get off the forums

Yes, cause, like, people post proof of stuff all the time.  And if I annoy you too bad.  You surely can figure out how to get over it.

And I think it's hilarious that you wanna say all I post is bull****, when if you look at 99% of the posts in any given thread on this entire forum the posts are nothing but bull****.   I post what I post, sometimes thoughtful sometimes not, but always honest, blunt and willing to stand up to people who bully or bull****. 

And don't we all leave afterwards?  Or do you actually post in a thread and then never leave?

Oh, and I have no plans to go anywhere for the time being.   Hopefully you'll be able to find some way to adapt or something.

(and really, is it so hard for you to debate on context?  Nothing weaker than when people like you can only use personal attacks instead of logical argument.   I really got to start ignoring these childish attacks more.  So flame all ya want, it just makes you look weak, and unless ya can debate me on the merits then don't expect any further responses)

youve not used this "debating" tactic with anyone else youve made angry. you just flat out insult people. razrei said made sense in their post. you know what razrei means when they said you leave. you stirred up something and go. you will end up going somewhere bc pretty soon someone is going to report you. i dont know how it works but if the first ban isnt permanent, the second will be

Pretty sure you guys are the ones throwing personal insults pal, but then hypocrisy isn't exactly something foreign to most of you.  Fact is, some here think the world revolves around them, are beyond arrogant,  make statements as if they are fact when they are nothing more than flawed opinion, bully others they consider beneath them and attack others with childish insults.  When I come across any violation of the above, I have no problem standing up in their faces and calling them out on their bull****.   I'm blunt, intelligent, honest and logical.  Sure, that's gonna make a few elitists, know it alls and noselifters angry.  They're used to being the abusers and aren't used to being on the defensive.  Well too bad for them.  But I'm going to continue to defend against the plethora of bull**** on here no matter how angry they get or how many personal attacks they hurl at me.

And no, I don't stir something up and leave.  In fact, in most instances, I defend my position and then respond back to gradeschoolers' insults far too long ( I'm usually the victim of personal attacks, not the other way around), when I should just ignore them and move on.  And if you want to talk about rule breaking, preach to mozts and razrei, both of which used unacceptable personal attacks.  I don't make attacks personal.  Others, on the other hand, have completely leveled direct and personal attacks on me.  If their behavior does not stop, I'm sure in time it will be appropriately dealt with.  And no, I'm not going anywhere.   Deal with it.

What I find hilarious here is that all this started from my actually having originally tried to fight for you to get the answers you seemed to seek.  Little did I know how undeserving you were.  

[landylan]

IAMREALITY wrote...

landylan wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

RazRei wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

stricko wrote...

@ IAMREALITY
Hey everyone this guy is a troll . Don't waste your time engaging him on this or any other forum.

ROFLMAO.  You're adorable!

Last thing I am is a troll.  What I am is someone who doesn't put up with bull****.  Get used to it pal.    I ain't goin anywhere. 

God you are so f'en annoying.  All you do in threads is just post bull**** and leave afterwards with no proof of anything.  Do us all a favor and get off the forums

Yes, cause, like, people post proof of stuff all the time.  And if I annoy you too bad.  You surely can figure out how to get over it.

And I think it's hilarious that you wanna say all I post is bull****, when if you look at 99% of the posts in any given thread on this entire forum the posts are nothing but bull****.   I post what I post, sometimes thoughtful sometimes not, but always honest, blunt and willing to stand up to people who bully or bull****. 

And don't we all leave afterwards?  Or do you actually post in a thread and then never leave?

Oh, and I have no plans to go anywhere for the time being.   Hopefully you'll be able to find some way to adapt or something.

(and really, is it so hard for you to debate on context?  Nothing weaker than when people like you can only use personal attacks instead of logical argument.   I really got to start ignoring these childish attacks more.  So flame all ya want, it just makes you look weak, and unless ya can debate me on the merits then don't expect any further responses)

youve not used this "debating" tactic with anyone else youve made angry. you just flat out insult people. razrei said made sense in their post. you know what razrei means when they said you leave. you stirred up something and go. you will end up going somewhere bc pretty soon someone is going to report you. i dont know how it works but if the first ban isnt permanent, the second will be

Pretty sure you guys are the ones throwing personal insults pal, but then hypocrisy isn't exactly something foreign to most of you.  Fact is, some here think the world revolves around them, are beyond arrogant,  make statements as if they are fact when they are nothing more than flawed opinion, bully others they consider beneath them and attack others with childish insults.  When I come across any violation of the above, I have no problem standing up in their faces and calling them out on their bull****.   I'm blunt, intelligent, honest and logical.  Sure, that's gonna make a few elitists, know it alls and noselifters angry.  They're used to being the abusers and aren't used to being on the defensive.  Well too bad for them.  But I'm going to continue to defend against the plethora of bull**** on here no matter how angry they get or how many personal attacks they hurl at me.

And no, I don't stir something up and leave.  In fact, in most instances, I defend my position and then respond back to gradeschoolers' insults far too long ( I'm usually the victim of personal attacks, not the other way around), when I should just ignore them and move on.  And if you want to talk about rule breaking, preach to mozts and razrei, both of which used unacceptable personal attacks.  I don't make attacks personal.  Others, on the other hand, have completely leveled direct and personal attacks on me.  If their behavior does not stop, I'm sure in time it will be appropriately dealt with.  And no, I'm not going anywhere.   Deal with it.

What I find hilarious here is that all this started from my actually having originally tried to fight for you to get the answers you seemed to seek.  Little did I know how undeserving you were.  

you say you stick up for those being bullied, but it seems like the majority of the people here see you as a "troll" (barely know what this internet exclusive word means, but it seems to refer to rude people who are unliked by the community). you tell people to contribute to a topic by taking up twice as much text space and not contributing at all yourself. i believe this is the example of "hypocrisy" you were speaking of. wanting others to be contributors but not being one yourself. list of insults you used: hypocrites, arrogant, dickwad, gradeschoolers, undeserving. i would consider these insults, "pal." 

[Hex Code]

Personally, I don't have a problem killing phantoms. But their little dodge, eating bullets maneuver has always been cheap to me. When I land, what appears to be on my screen, two solid claymore shots and barely drop their health somewhat perplexes me. Now I'm just use to them.

[RazRei]

IAMREALITY wrote...

Once agian thanks for you wall of text that has little to do with the thread.

You also spread misinformation in other threads too.  I'm sure you've been shuffled off to the same group that Talon and Descy are proud to be, trolls.