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Since it has been decided that the earlier incarnation of the "Disappointed Fans Threadnought" is no longer on topic and should be closed, here's to a new discussion under a (hopefully) broader topic. This is to head off the inevitable flood of queries as to why it was closed. That said, here's the Informal Code of Conduct and Master List of Ending Complaints from the previous thread: link to original


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Find below some important links you may want to follow.

Retake Mass Effect, HTL
Movement survey map
Unify the groups
Calculate the size and reach of Retake
Survey regarding likes and dislikes about the ending
Audio Interview with the Organizer of RetakeME3
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
PAX East Platoon
Adamantium93, So about those "Insightful' and "Philosophical" endings...
HoldTheLine, A website who's main asset is a forum which has gone to great length to unify the community.
Retakemasseffect.org, This is a resource site with fun things like daily initiatives (like an N7 avatar generator) to get people involved.
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics

Polls
Is "clarification" DLC enough?
Are you happy with the DLC announcement?
How bad was the ending?
Since we're getting paid DLC, is it enough for Bioware to just "clarify"?
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?

Provide Bioware with your feedback
Bioware official DLC feedback thread
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread

Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***

Are the options provided by the catalyst truly rewards?

Podcasts
This Week in Games 04/21/12 - Brent Weeks discusses ME3

Latest News/blogs
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 Fans Stage 'On/Off' Campaign
Random drabble from a country kid outside her comfort zone in the great Eastern megapolis
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 Ending 'Provoked A Bigger Fan Reaction Than Any Other' In Video Game History
IBT,'Mass Effect 3' Ending: Bioware, EA Guilty Of False Marketing? Legal Repercussions?
“Mass Effect 3 is Having a ‘Mass Effect’ on Its Consumers for Better or Worse”
Forbes, What Do the Fans Want? Talking with Retake Mass Effect
Game Front, Mass Effect 3 Ending: Change Could Have Empowered Game Writing
Kotaku Power 40
***Attention*** Mass Effect Survey Scam
Forbes, EA Shrugs Off Worst Company in America Title
Forbes, EA is the Worst Company in America, Now What?
BBC News, Mass Effect 3 to get extended ending at no cost to gamers
BioWare Announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut
Bioware blog,Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut
Forbes,Fans Victorious: Mass Effect 3 to Expand Ending with Free 'Extended Cut' DLC
Forbes, BioWare Announces Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut - But Is It A Victory For Fans?
"Mass Effect 3" Ending: Did Fan Protests Cause EA Stock Price To Drop?
Giant Bomb, Sticking the Landing
Forbes, The Real Precedent Being Set By Mass Effect 3 Protests
Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'
Killer Kittens from Mars, Charity sees the need, not the cause - German proverb
International Business Times, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest
California Literary Review, Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
Fprbes, Mass Effect 3 Protesters Sending Cupcakes to Bioware
Forbes, Why Most Websites Have to Make Nice to the Industry
Forbes, New Ending Setting Precedence?
Forbes, Commander Shepard Actor Mark Meer Weighs In On Mass Effect 3 Ending And DLC
Forbes on indoctrination theory
Forbes reports on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement
Forbes, Why Child's Play Stopped Taking Donations From Retake Mass Effect
Forbes, Further Thoughts on Mass Effect 3's Ending and Future DLC
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 And Corporate Influence Over Commercial Art
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending
BBC news technology section
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
GotGame, The customer is always right.
NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
The wall street journal, Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor
IBT, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: ‘The New Yorker’ Weighs In On Fan Protests

Videos
Malufenix, Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute Song
The Greatest Speech Ever Made
Retake campaign: Turn it on/Turn it off for Bioware
'Mass Effect 3' Ending FAIL ('The Wanted' Parody) - Terence Jay Music
Mass Effect 3 Hamster Ending
Angry Joe, Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC Discussion
G4TV, Feedback: Mass Effect 3 Ending Controversy
Mass Effect 3: Never ending nightmare.
Jim Sterling gets it!
he Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Retake Mass Effect - A Character Tribute
I Am the Very Model of a Mass Effect Enthusiast (SPOILERS)
Global EDMONTON, Cupcake protest against Mass Effect 3
RetakeMassEffect - Fan Testimonies
Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Archengeia number 1, Mass Effect 3 Ending: My Thoughts, What Could Have Been, What Should Have Been
Archengeia number 2, Mass Effect 3: My Thoughts, Continued; Potential, Illusive Man, and Cerberus
Archengeia, Q&A: The Answers
Archengeia number 3, Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory
Archengeia number 4, Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC, The Analogy, and The Choice We Face
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 1
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 2
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 3
The Indoctrination Theory Documentary

Alernative endings created by fans
StElmo, Mass Effect 3 Alternative Cut Down Ending, Paragon Femshep
Mass Effect 3 "Extended Fan Cut"
Mass Effect 3 - Alernate ending, Liara as LI
Mass Effect 3: Re-Edited Ending
Mass Effect 3 - Alternate Fan Ending - Liara Version

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The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.

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I don't agree with the closing of that thread. But I might as well kick this off with a vaguely relevant post. That was a horrible ending to what ended up being a pretty bad game.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


I don't want more horde mode DLC.

I want to finish the story that I fell in love with since the beginning.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


It's a hedge against future releases by BioWare and/or EA. The multiplayer DLC is free, yes, but there are future games and single-player paid DLC planned. For my part, I will wait for the Extended Cut DLC and then decide whether or not to adopt a "wait and see" approach to future products or just give it up as a bad job.

This is the essence, IMHO, of the disaffected fanbase.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


The DLC has been free because people are still spending money on the Packs...

If ME3 didn't have microtransactions, the multiplayer packs would either likely either not exist, or would cost money.

Anyway, ending sucks. Want a new one.

Or, at the very least, I'd like the tools to make a new one.

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Still holding

Glad to see it's still going.

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I think it's nice that Bioware are doing MP DLC for free for the time being BUT (a very big but) MP was never the issue, the ending was. I'm glad the EC is going to be free but the EC is going to be the deal breaker for me whether I purchase future single player DLC which I doubt will be free, so they need to persuade me greatly due to me feeling like I been mislead.

I still cant fathom how they thought the ending was complete. *sigh*

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The first page and already I've had to remove a couple of spam posts. Let's try to keep things on topic, please. Thank you.

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Lookout1390 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


I don't want more horde mode DLC.

I want to finish the story that I fell in love with since the beginning.


Just because you don't like MP doesn't mean other don't.

But I'm not going to thread jack.

Others have exaplained it. Thank you.

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Vault N7 wrote...

I think it's nice that Bioware are doing MP DLC for free for the time being BUT (a very big but) MP was never the issue, the ending was. I'm glad the EC is going to be free but the EC is going to be the deal breaker for me whether I purchase future single player DLC which I doubt will be free, so they need to persuade me greatly due to me feeling like I been mislead.

I still cant fathom how they thought the ending was complete. *sigh*


Agreed very much.

Even though I don't mind the multiplayer (and it'll be interesting to see what they do with this new expansion), this is an RPG. That means role-playing game, not rocket-propelled grenade.

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I don't care how many free MP DLC they give us for free.

ME3's ending sucked, and a game built on story and decisions was completely **** on.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


I don't want more horde mode DLC.

I want to finish the story that I fell in love with since the beginning.


Just because you don't like MP doesn't mean other don't.

But I'm not going to thread jack.

Others have exaplained it. Thank you.


I never said others didn't want MP DLC.

That's cool if  they want it, good for them.

Just address the major outstanding issue.

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Everyone already knows about HTL and the Retake movement. And if the other thread was locked what could this one possible bring to the table that the original didn't? I mean it existed for almost three months, and for the majority of at least two months the thread was off its topic.

Also in before eventual lock.

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Meh, I guess I've come a long way from two months. I didn't feel like playing anything for several weeks.
I finally played some other favorites and I'm fine. Just hoping EC will light my ME3 fire again. I'll still enjoy ME2 on it's own if nothing else. I'm worn out on 'ending sucks'.

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Hey everyone.

The ending truly does suck. wish the EC would come out so I can decide one way or the other if ME3 is dead to me or not.

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I never cared for MP in any game.

It is a nice gesture, but one that can't, by it's very nature, address the real issue.

The ending is what we care about Bioware.

I'm starting to feel like Johnny Deep's character at the end of Secret Window.

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Hi there! I can see you're recovering after the Reaper invasion. Good luck!

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Opsrbest wrote...

Everyone already knows about HTL and the Retake movement. And if the other thread was locked what could this one possible bring to the table that the original didn't? I mean it existed for almost three months, and for the majority of at least two months the thread was off its topic.

Also in before eventual lock.


The purpose of this thread is to be a place where everyone who was dissatisfied with the ending can congregate without disrupting other topics. Which was what the original threadnought eventually came to be. Not that topic evolution ever happens, oh no. :P

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I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

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Goodwood wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...

Everyone already knows about HTL and the Retake movement. And if the other thread was locked what could this one possible bring to the table that the original didn't? I mean it existed for almost three months, and for the majority of at least two months the thread was off its topic.

Also in before eventual lock.


The purpose of this thread is to be a place where everyone who was dissatisfied with the ending can congregate without disrupting other topics. Which was what the original threadnought eventually came to be. Not that topic evolution ever happens, oh no. :P

Its not like we have anything new to talk about either... We can talk about the ending, or the bugs/glitches in the game... Can we please get some news? Image IPB

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xHezz90 wrote...

I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

Fact: summer does not exist.
The EC is probably gonna be out 2-3 days before fall...

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xHezz90 wrote...

I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

Summer runs from June 20 to september 21 in the northern hemisphere, so no, it is not yet summer, not even technically.

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Ninja Stan wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

Summer runs from June 20 to september 21 in the northern hemisphere, so no, it is not yet summer, not even technically.

Not on Earth. But it's Summer all right on Mercury. Image IPB