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#76
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I see the free mp dlc as a distraction tactic.
They know people are pissed about the ending so they offer free mp dlc as shiny dangling keys.
I hate the argument, "well it's FREE"... It being free doesn't make it good, or relevant, and it certainly doesn't negate the fact the game was rushed out the door for the biggest short term profit.

I just saw Michael Gamble's twitter where he says all the teams are involved when making mp dlc. Which I thought was funny, because they got so defensive when we asked if mp was taking resources away from sp, and they said it was a separate team doing mp. So which is it? A single separate team doing mp, or all the teams like Michael Gamble says.

It seems amazing that a single player rpg series is putting so much emphasis on mp now, I'm sure this is EA trying to prepare us for ME MMO, which will microtransact itself into oblivion.

I'm still waiting on the EC to decide on my relationship with BioWare in the future. I used the old thread to see if there was any news, it seems I'm unable to do that now. So I'll stick to this thread for a while, but post decidedly less.


That's funny indeed. Looks like BioWare have lost track of their lies. :D

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Ninja Stan wrote...

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I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

Summer runs from June 20 to september 21 in the northern hemisphere, so no, it is not yet summer, not even technically.


Australia and New Zealand, use the meteorological definition with summer starting on December 1 and ending on the last day of February

even some nations in the northen hemisphere have winter at during the american summer months.

so a summer release is what i think a stupid thing to say.

we need a definate release date and NONE OF THE "WHEN ITS DONE" rubbish

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It is, its almost "freemium" since grinding alone is not a surefire way to get the character and wepaons you want, so they know people will pay away for it. There is lots of things to hold the wallet for, From ashes if you did not buy it, all the crappy accessories/ hoodies and robot dogs and weapons for campaign ect ect. Even real life merchendise


Yep. And now it won't be so hard to "hold the wallet" anyway since ME interest/replayability has been destroyed. And the crucible lithograph that they are selling now is actually laughable. LOL :D

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chmarr wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I still think Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe have the best videos on why we hate the ending so much, when the heck is there going to be more news on the EC, isn't it technically summer now?!?!

Summer runs from June 20 to september 21 in the northern hemisphere, so no, it is not yet summer, not even technically.


Australia and New Zealand, use the meteorological definition with summer starting on December 1 and ending on the last day of February

even some nations in the northen hemisphere have winter at during the american summer months.

so a summer release is what i think a stupid thing to say.

we need a definate release date and NONE OF THE "WHEN ITS DONE" rubbish


Judging by how Blizzard sets their times to the Pacific Standard Time being as they're in California, and from TOR's times being based in Central Standard Time as they're in Texas(?), I think we can assume Summer in the region that the developers are from.

I would like to call BS, especially on Blizz, for their launches being at 3am in EST where I dwell. :pinched:

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Honestly. That thread was always on topic when there was actually news. The point when it was locked down was when it was drifting back on topic. It was also licked my a mod who has been here less time that most of the forum posters. Too overzealous, perhaps. Embarrassed by the page count? Maybe.

That may have been part of their their cunning plan. Go dark and let every thread drift and get locked.

Anyhoo. I took bragging rights in my local Magic store two days in a row in a local tournament. So I am king of my ant hill for the moment.(Magic is a card game, btw)

So has anyone killed Biggles over the weekend?

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ok the fans OFFICAL REACTION TO MP is this

"MULTIPLAYER IS TOTAL AND UTTER COMPLETE RUBBISH AND DOES NOT BELONG IN A SINGLEPLAYER RPG GAME"

thats what EVERY SINGLE FAN IS SAYING

now the results of the multiplayer stats are a COMBINED total and is NOT a "UNIQE" total.

combined means that a single person logs in10 times means thats 10 added onto the total

uniqe means if a single person logs in 10 times its only added as ONCE and NOT 10

so the multiplayer stats cannot be trusted and they are not the real repirentation of the true numbers.

even then the totals are still REALLY LOW which does mean fans do not like the multiplayer for mass effect.

the game series was all about the single player mission, mass effect 2 was the LAST of TRUE singleplayer games.

i am sick to death of games that were ment to be singleplayer getting fubared around to add craptastic multiplayer.

the ENTIRE multiplayer thing should have been an extra to be sold or given away t the players choice and not FORCED APON US and to put the singleplayer mission requierments into multiplayer is a fubared idea, who ever thought of that should be shot.

because of the whole shiznit storm over the craptastic ending the forced multiplayer and then microtransactions of stuff thats crap and over priced mass effect 3 has won awards for being the WORST GAME EVER MADE.

biowares reputation was tarnished after the rush job on DA2 they then had a chance to redeem themselves with ME3 and they totally killed themself by screwing up a franchise so bad that there PARENT company offered FULL REFUNDS.

1. day 1 DLC which included ESSENTAL MISSIONS
2. A GENERIC NONSENSICLE MULTICOLOURED ENDING
3. TIED IN SINGLEPLAYER TO MULTIPLAYER
4. calling its customers "ENTITLED BRATS"
5. claiming "ARTIST INTEGRITY"
6. retconned a MAJOR PLOT

later on they redacted the artistic crap and then said "We did what we thought the fans wanted" when in fact they ignored out plea's

the origonal script was leaked and made MORE SENSE and was MUCH MORE liner and engrossing, after it was "leaked" they ripped out 1/2 the game and replaced it with craptastic multiplayer, removed missions that would have answered a TON of stuff and it even kept to its origonal plot.

yup bioware totally killed an ENTIRE FRANCHISE

BTW offiacal number of the sales of ios apps for mass effect, infiltrator dident sell many as it was over priced and could not run on certain apple products.
also the actual requierments for the android version was worse.
i have a HTC desire HD (Black Edtion) and it says that i do not meet the minimum requierments
i'm sorry 768meg of ram, a 1.3ghz cpu and a fairly good gpu on a SMARTPHONE not good enough requierments (btw it DOES have a 32gig card) the sales for the android version are WORSE.

yu people just use "other" means of getting games for smartphones without paying a penny.

yeah i'm ranting and i will rant untill i passout and sleep, i am sick of being screwed around with, sick of being screwed over and SICO OF BEING TREATED LIKE A FREAKING TEENAGER.


bioware get your shiznit togeather and tell us WTF IS HAPPENING WITH OUR S**T

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Ohpus wrote...

Honestly. That thread was always on topic when there was actually news. The point when it was locked down was when it was drifting back on topic. It was also licked my a mod who has been here less time that most of the forum posters. Too overzealous, perhaps. Embarrassed by the page count? Maybe.

That may have been part of their their cunning plan. Go dark and let every thread drift and get locked.

Anyhoo. I took bragging rights in my local Magic store two days in a row in a local tournament. So I am king of my ant hill for the moment.(Magic is a card game, btw)

So has anyone killed Biggles over the weekend?

i tried to get the first kill over in this forum but he evaded my two attempts Image IPB lol
and yeah i don't get it, it was just starting to swing back into on-topic material when it was locked lol
and that was Woo who locked it btw, just in case you didn't know

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I just wanted a chance to kick The Catalyst in the shins. Turn about's fair play, junior! Can't a dieing man have a wish??

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@chmarr let the hate flow through you

Jk I feel the same way. I feel cheated, I wish I could go back in time and tell myself to stay the **** away from ME3 it will ruin mass effect. Always being LIED to also video game companies it seems are so unprofessional and immature. Things from the false promises to exaggerated claims, false endings to tali's "face". Wtf is wrong with these people and why am I paying money for this crap.

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Ninja Stan wrote...

The first page and already I've had to remove a couple of spam posts. Let's try to keep things on topic, please. Thank you.



Then a legitimate question would be, what would the topic header have to be to general enough to be on topic?

Second. A thread with the single purpose of watching Bioware carefully for a promise made will tend to drift in absence of information from the other side. This should be taken into account.

You may be doing a job. Cudos to you for a thankless job. But you are irritating people who have been docile up to now. Not a good idea to kick a hornets nest. You do not want another HTL to deal with.

 

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Wow, Chmarr. I only see a kitty hiss that much when I bring out the vacuum.

@Swift

No idea who that is, nor should it matter. Would be the same reaction if Priestly locked the thread.

 

Modifié par Ohpus, 28 mai 2012 - 04:35 .


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Artificial Integrity!

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I like multiplayer.... lot's of people do.

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Ahh a new one! The ending still sucks and if the E.C. doesn't fix it the game is ruined. I have bought almost every piece of dlc for M.E., M.E.2, DAO but if E.C. doesn't make sense of the ending then I won't be buying M.E.3 dlc. also I will never preorder another Bioware/EA game ever again.

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balance5050 wrote...

I like multiplayer.... lot's of people do.


I don't know, It bored the hell out of me after 3 weeks of playing. But the Multiplayer does not suck as much as the end.

Modifié par MysticBinary82, 28 mai 2012 - 04:37 .


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I still play sometimes since i don't touch the SP anymore, but i agree it gets boring pretty fast.

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I like multiplayer.... lot's of people do.


I don't know, It bored the hell out of me after 3 weeks of playing. But the Multiplayer does not suck as much as the end.

Yea... The multiplayer is fine if you want un-ending horde mode... Its got no real objectives... Co-op campaign missions might be fun, but its still not worth playing, because of the ending...

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After 3 month I've calmed down a little and put together my guesses on why this disaster has happened:

1. They didn't have a plan right from the beginning.
That's why ME looks so unrelated to ME1 and ME3 feels like ME1&ME2 were throw out of the wind...i mean airlock.

2. Management issues.
Someone in charge made his work bad. Plot inconsistencies, direct previous established lore retconning, plot-holes - all of this could have been avoided if someone had the finger on the pulse constantly.
I suspect that Tuchanka&Rannoch missions were written in first place. I don't know what happened in the last year of development, but I think it something to do with inner corporate problems (either financial, personnel or others).

3. EA&Time.
EA had 5 years of financial loss and this year is the first year that ends with profit.
Probably, they hurried bioware to release game earlier to get pretty $ numbers for shareholders. Or may be there was some corporate collusion: "You release game now and get nice $ percents.". What? This does happen.

Time. Game feels rushed and it's really strange considering they had enough time. I blame again management and some inner problems. We will probably never know (well, may be one day Casey will write the memoirs, or Mac Walters release a comix.).

4. Mood.
Even if all the above is false, I think it's not bioware's best time now. Dragon Age 2 was accepted worse that they expected. Star Wars MMO is no so good as the amount of spent money and time on it. Probably, they are in some creative crisis right now.

EDIT: format fixed

Modifié par MissNet, 15 juin 2012 - 04:07 .


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balance5050 wrote...

I like multiplayer.... lot's of people do.


I'm not a huge fan of the multi-player, yet to get the maximum best ending, I'm forced to play it when I was told I wouldn't have to touch any other source to get the maximum best ending.

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It was pretty fun this weekend, because the last challenge was failed, banshee's appeared in every game, it was harrowing. I just think it's cool that our actions are actually affecting the game on a level like that.

I think the EC will be up to par. Bioware originally asked EA for 6 extra months and they only got 3, the EC should flesh things out nicely.

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Lookout1390 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I like multiplayer.... lot's of people do.


I'm not a huge fan of the multi-player, yet to get the maximum best ending, I'm forced to play it when I was told I wouldn't have to touch any other source to get the maximum best ending.


I like multiplayer more than sp lol :P

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multiplayer just sucks balls

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MP is nice TMH, but I paid 80 dollars for the single player story.

Which was incomplete, unbalanced and ultimately disappointing.

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I do feel that the introduction of multiplayer did, ultimately, take away from what the single-player experience could have been (resources, manpower, creative energy, etc., not to mention the N7 single-player missions being repurposed for same), leaving it out altogether or making good on the promise of not having to play it to get the "best" ending wouldn't have made the one we got smell any less putrid.

Personally, I chalk it up to lack of time combined with unsupervised and unfettered whimsy on the part of whoever wrote that dreck.

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chmarr wrote...

ok the fans OFFICAL REACTION TO MP is this

"MULTIPLAYER IS TOTAL AND UTTER COMPLETE RUBBISH AND DOES NOT BELONG IN A SINGLEPLAYER RPG GAME"

thats what EVERY SINGLE FAN IS SAYING

now the results of the multiplayer stats are a COMBINED total and is NOT a "UNIQE" total.

combined means that a single person logs in10 times means thats 10 added onto the total

uniqe means if a single person logs in 10 times its only added as ONCE and NOT 10

so the multiplayer stats cannot be trusted and they are not the real repirentation of the true numbers.

even then the totals are still REALLY LOW which does mean fans do not like the multiplayer for mass effect.

the game series was all about the single player mission, mass effect 2 was the LAST of TRUE singleplayer games.

i am sick to death of games that were ment to be singleplayer getting fubared around to add craptastic multiplayer.

the ENTIRE multiplayer thing should have been an extra to be sold or given away t the players choice and not FORCED APON US and to put the singleplayer mission requierments into multiplayer is a fubared idea, who ever thought of that should be shot.

because of the whole shiznit storm over the craptastic ending the forced multiplayer and then microtransactions of stuff thats crap and over priced mass effect 3 has won awards for being the WORST GAME EVER MADE.

biowares reputation was tarnished after the rush job on DA2 they then had a chance to redeem themselves with ME3 and they totally killed themself by screwing up a franchise so bad that there PARENT company offered FULL REFUNDS.

1. day 1 DLC which included ESSENTAL MISSIONS
2. A GENERIC NONSENSICLE MULTICOLOURED ENDING
3. TIED IN SINGLEPLAYER TO MULTIPLAYER
4. calling its customers "ENTITLED BRATS"
5. claiming "ARTIST INTEGRITY"
6. retconned a MAJOR PLOT

later on they redacted the artistic crap and then said "We did what we thought the fans wanted" when in fact they ignored out plea's

the origonal script was leaked and made MORE SENSE and was MUCH MORE liner and engrossing, after it was "leaked" they ripped out 1/2 the game and replaced it with craptastic multiplayer, removed missions that would have answered a TON of stuff and it even kept to its origonal plot.

yup bioware totally killed an ENTIRE FRANCHISE

BTW offiacal number of the sales of ios apps for mass effect, infiltrator dident sell many as it was over priced and could not run on certain apple products.
also the actual requierments for the android version was worse.
i have a HTC desire HD (Black Edtion) and it says that i do not meet the minimum requierments
i'm sorry 768meg of ram, a 1.3ghz cpu and a fairly good gpu on a SMARTPHONE not good enough requierments (btw it DOES have a 32gig card) the sales for the android version are WORSE.

yu people just use "other" means of getting games for smartphones without paying a penny.

yeah i'm ranting and i will rant untill i passout and sleep, i am sick of being screwed around with, sick of being screwed over and SICO OF BEING TREATED LIKE A FREAKING TEENAGER.


bioware get your shiznit togeather and tell us WTF IS HAPPENING WITH OUR S**T


Well said. :police: