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#126
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*chuckles* I can't connect to the forums for a couple days because of the servers and you guys/gals go and break the other thread.....:)

Summer isn't here - most likely they will announce it at E3 - until then we have a cliffhanger.....not an ending.

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There was a 1.0?

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Deltakarma wrote...

There was a 1.0?


Yes, there was.

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Laterali wrote...

BEANFEDBEAST wrote...

Has any body else notice bioware is falling apart after every game DA2 crap swotr crap me3 super crap you would think some one would say where doing some thing wrong the fans are angry we should not ****** them off or EA will cut are heads off


Except all were initial commercial successes. DA2 had a pretty large pre-order population, basically because origins was amazing and people expected more of that. It wasn't until after that everyone was like "WTF?!" and sales started to dip.
Same with ME3, had a pretty good release day due to pre-orders, and then people were like" WTF!?"...
And I'm pretty sure SWTOR broke pre-order records, and now people are like "WTF!?!"....
But by the time any of that happened, they already had emptied all our money into their swimming pool and dove in like Uncle Scrooge. To them this is good business.

I have a feeling DA3 is going to do terrible pre-order wise. I think people that actually stick with Bioware are going to be much more cautious due to their recent releases.

I think BioWare is going to have to build their fan loyalty back from the ground up. They've done a lot to demolish it the last few years.

Well... They have been running according to what EA demands... And I doubt that BW can rebuild their fan loyalty... It takes years, to build something but only seconds to destroy...
Just like the ending of ME3

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

paxxton wrote...


Yes, I understand that from the title. But what do you want to accomplish?



What does any poster on any of BSNs boards hope to accomplish? Hopefully whatever they personaly set out to do, in this case its not a tool of pressure on bioware, its too late for that, and its not really what we did not like about the ending, thats been done too much, its general discusion about the ending and developments relating to that, and hopefully we can have less hugs and more topic this time.



The world needs more hugs, Biggles.

Regardless, if that was really was the reason for the lockdown it would have happend thousands of pages earlier. No, the reason for the lockdown was both specious and unknowable.

Modifié par Ohpus, 28 mai 2012 - 08:23 .


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Goodwood wrote...

Deltakarma wrote...

There was a 1.0?


Yes, there was.


Mmmmmmm, I remember that.

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Goodwood wrote...

Deltakarma wrote...

There was a 1.0?


Yes, there was.

Lots of fun, discussion, speculation(still hate that word) off-topicness and on-topicness was had on that thread... Kinda weird that it got shut down when it was moving to on-topic... Especially with the lvl of off-topic all the other times...

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Ohpus wrote...
The world needs more hugs, Biggles.

Regardless, if that was really was the reason for the lockdown it would have happend thousands of pages earlier. No, the reason for the lockdown was both specious and unknowable.

They might have been scared... A thread growing to 4k pages in 3 months... That's gotta be some kind of record...

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better put it on the frontpage. impressive numbers.

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MeldarthX wrote...

*chuckles* I can't connect to the forums for a couple days because of the servers and you guys/gals go and break the other thread.....:)

Summer isn't here - most likely they will announce it at E3 - until then we have a cliffhanger.....not an ending.

nope, Priestly already said there won't be anything for EC at E3 (though its hard to believe anything they say these days lmaoImage IPB)

Modifié par Major Swift, 28 mai 2012 - 08:45 .


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Major Swift wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

*chuckles* I can't connect to the forums for a couple days because of the servers and you guys/gals go and break the other thread.....:)

Summer isn't here - most likely they will announce it at E3 - until then we have a cliffhanger.....not an ending.

nope, Priestly already said there won't be anything for EC at E3 (though its hard to believe anything they say these days lmaoImage IPB)

Question/Answer dodging, lvl: Bioware.
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Tyion133 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

*chuckles* I can't connect to the forums for a couple days because of the servers and you guys/gals go and break the other thread.....:)

Summer isn't here - most likely they will announce it at E3 - until then we have a cliffhanger.....not an ending.

nope, Priestly already said there won't be anything for EC at E3 (though its hard to believe anything they say these days lmaoImage IPB)

Question/Answer dodging, lvl: Bioware.
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lol that'd be quite the challenge to get to that high of a level now wouldn't it? its one of their mastered skills Image IPB
its almost at politician level Image IPB
edit: (i personally think they should say SOMETHING about it at E3, just give us something! lol)

Modifié par Major Swift, 28 mai 2012 - 08:58 .


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Major Swift wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Question/Answer dodging, lvl: Bioware.
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lol that'd be quite the challenge to get to that high of a level now wouldn't it? its one of their mastered skills Image IPB
its almost at politician level Image IPB
edit: (i personally think they should say SOMETHING about it at E3, just give us something! lol)

Aye... The silent treatment is getting old... Also annoying...

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Laterali wrote...

BEANFEDBEAST wrote...

Has any body else notice bioware is falling apart after every game DA2 crap swotr crap me3 super crap you would think some one would say where doing some thing wrong the fans are angry we should not ****** them off or EA will cut are heads off


Except all were initial commercial successes. DA2 had a pretty large pre-order population, basically because origins was amazing and people expected more of that. It wasn't until after that everyone was like "WTF?!" and sales started to dip.
Same with ME3, had a pretty good release day due to pre-orders, and then people were like" WTF!?"...
And I'm pretty sure SWTOR broke pre-order records, and now people are like "WTF!?!"....
But by the time any of that happened, they already had emptied all our money into their swimming pool and dove in like Uncle Scrooge. To them this is good business.

I have a feeling DA3 is going to do terrible pre-order wise. I think people that actually stick with Bioware are going to be much more cautious due to their recent releases.

I think BioWare is going to have to build their fan loyalty back from the ground up. They've done a lot to demolish it the last few years.


Personally I hope DA3 will do terrible when it comes to pre orders and then if/when it turns out the game is actually really good, the sales start increasing again like happened to Origins. No more first day purchases from BioWare for me any more that's for sure, I don't trust them enough for that any more.

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Just in case anyone was wondering ...ME3 is going for half price.
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Half Effect :)

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

The point still stands. All the DLC so far has been free. I've never understood Hold The Wallet.


There has only been one DLC to date, with a second releasing tomorrow. The DLC has only been related to MP. The only things readily given in said DLC are the maps. Weapons, characters, and equipment can only randomly be attained. And the characters can continue to be awarded even when there is nothing left to be gained from said characters. Sorry, MP DLC isn't that great

If BioWare gave us more game modes for free, your point would be valid. Horde mode gets tedious after a while. Expanding on a feature no one really wanted in the first place isn't that great of a deal. Lots of clinics have free needles. However, I don't use IV drugs, so there is zero benefit to that offering. Give me free ganja and either a way to clear my system or make it illegal to not hire me just because of a positive UDS, and I'd feel like you've done somethign for me. Adding a deathmatch mode and some competitive objective scenarios and I'll thank BioWare. Until then, they haven't done squat for us. So I won't likely be giving them a dime, be it for MP unlock packs or for some future SP DLC.

That all being said, should BioWare change their tune and offer some sort of post-ending DLC, I would consider paying for it. I'd vet the DLC through the forums to see if it actually improves upon the ending. If so, I'd grudgingly shell out the money for it. In fact, I'm willing to bet that most of those dissatisfied with the ending would pay for a new one. So it becomes a question of what EA values more: profits or Casey's "artistic integrity". I'd be very surprised for them to take the latter option. While there may be economic justifications to not produce a new DLC, I doubt support for Casey's work will ever be a major concern for EA again. He killed an otherwise profitable IP that can only be resurrected by blatantly disregarding the creator of said IP. Even if Casey ends up directing another EA game, it will only be under very close corporate supervision.

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Major Swift wrote...
lol that'd be quite the challenge to get to that high of a level now wouldn't it? its one of their mastered skills Image IPB
its almost at politician level Image IPB
edit: (i personally think they should say SOMETHING about it at E3, just give us something! lol)


Given that they already asked how many people believe in the Indoctrination Theory at Hold The Line, I think they realised they can't salvage the ending. They're now probably frantically looking for anything to work with without having to redo practically the entire game. That's why we haven't heard yet. Writing some extra cutscenes and dialogues doesn't take this long (making them might would, though, but you'd be relatively sure about what you were putting out after three months).

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 28 mai 2012 - 09:20 .


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Fibonacci wrote...

Just in case anyone was wondering ...ME3 is going for half price.

~snippy the image~

Half Effect :)



thats roughly £20UK ......... i can buy the xbox, ps3 AND pc version for a total of £35UK (roughly $50USD)

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Why did the other thread get closed?

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Jere85 wrote...

Why did the other thread get closed?

because it was going back on-topic..........Image IPB

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Mmmh. just logged me3, apparantly theres some patch, anything noteworthy? sorry i havent been playing for a while, for 3 coloured reasons.

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For me it wasn't just the ending that killed the game for me. There were many other issues that just screamed cost cutting and laziness. I would have already uninstalled the game if it wasn't for mp but even that is getting old and stale.

However the coup de grace of this whole mess has been the silence on BW's part. I could understand it right after release but to continue that pattern even today says a lot to me about how they view us as costumers. To be honest I have no hope for the EC cause they have already told us what we are getting yet I will at least give it a chance.

Going forward BW/EA has lost me as a day 1 buyer and maybe even a bargin bin buyer. The quality of there games has dropped off so much so quickly that they are no longer worthy of me blindly throwing money at them like I use to happily do. This does not make me happy but rather sad since BW use to make games that totally fit what I like to play. I am afraid that the type of game I love has seen its ship sail.

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Jere85 wrote...

Mmmh. just logged me3, apparantly theres some patch, anything noteworthy? sorry i havent been playing for a while, for 3 coloured reasons.


You and me both, it's just not worth it.

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I hear you Aryon, i never was a day 1 buyer before mass effect 2. I was so hyped for 3 so obviously preordered it when i could. Mistake i will not make again. Trust has to be earned once again.

And apologies to be cheeky about this, but in holland things are easy to rip off and download, its as legal as it gets with our weird laws. And im not that guy, I buy games i respect. Or used to anyway.

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I was a day 1 buyer since BG2. I own all BW games except there mmo which I had no plans to buy anyways. I own all expansions and DLC for each of those games. I can not even begin to think how many hours played or better yet days played throughout each of those games. I still play all of those games in a rotation except for BG1 and 2 since my computer crash and me losing the discs in a move. I know I am not alone like this and I and others like me are the type of costumer companies do not want to lose. To be honest I am not even sure that trust can be earned again but then again I still find myself coming to this forum so there must be something left.