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Ohpus

We drift around a lot. Mostly water cooler talk, but we get back on topic when new stuff comes up. Totally bizarre that they lock it on page 4000+ after all the drifting the last 3 months.


How are we supposed to remain on topic if they never tell us anything about the EC? :whistle:

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aryon69 wrote...

I was a day 1 buyer since BG2. I own all BW games except there mmo which I had no plans to buy anyways. I own all expansions and DLC for each of those games. I can not even begin to think how many hours played or better yet days played throughout each of those games. I still play all of those games in a rotation except for BG1 and 2 since my computer crash and me losing the discs in a move. I know I am not alone like this and I and others like me are the type of costumer companies do not want to lose. To be honest I am not even sure that trust can be earned again but then again I still find myself coming to this forum so there must be something left.


GoG.com will hook you up, $10 apiece for the BG games. With GoG's standard extras assortment; soundtrack, art, wallpapers, that kinda stuff. S'nice. I point people that way because CD Projekt knows how to treat their customers.

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aryon69 wrote...

I was a day 1 buyer since BG2. I own all BW games except there mmo which I had no plans to buy anyways. I own all expansions and DLC for each of those games. I can not even begin to think how many hours played or better yet days played throughout each of those games. I still play all of those games in a rotation except for BG1 and 2 since my computer crash and me losing the discs in a move. I know I am not alone like this and I and others like me are the type of costumer companies do not want to lose. To be honest I am not even sure that trust can be earned again but then again I still find myself coming to this forum so there must be something left.


You can buy the disks on DVD on the cheap from Atari. I got BG and Icewind Dale series for around $30 for each series. They still work on Windows 7, unlike Ultima 7.

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Tyion133 wrote...

Its not like we have anything new to talk about either... We can talk about the ending, or the bugs/glitches in the game... Can we please get some news? Image IPB


im starting to wonder if they are accually doing anything or just waiting for us to go away.

anyone remember deception....

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sagevallant wrote...

GoG.com will hook you up, $10 apiece for the BG games. With GoG's standard extras assortment; soundtrack, art, wallpapers, that kinda stuff. S'nice. I point people that way because CD Projekt knows how to treat their customers.


GoG?

Anyways. Anyone needs me, as unlikely as that may be, PM me. I have to shift over to the new thread. I can only focus on one thread when I'm at work.

I'll still be around now and then. I'm tracking down Biggles kills in the old thread.

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Ohpus wrote...
I'm tracking down Biggles kills in the old thread.


A thankless job if there ever was one. There were times I could've shot him out of the skies but I'm a sporting chap.

As for this thread, I'll be lurking here, updating the original post with relevant links as they are posted, maybe occasionally reposting the Master List if that is acceptable.

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Ohpus wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

GoG.com will hook you up, $10 apiece for the BG games. With GoG's standard extras assortment; soundtrack, art, wallpapers, that kinda stuff. S'nice. I point people that way because CD Projekt knows how to treat their customers.


GoG?

Anyways. Anyone needs me, as unlikely as that may be, PM me. I have to shift over to the new thread. I can only focus on one thread when I'm at work.

I'll still be around now and then. I'm tracking down Biggles kills in the old thread.

GoG= Good Old Games
It's a really good set up that they've got going on~!

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XqctaX wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Its not like we have anything new to talk about either... We can talk about the ending, or the bugs/glitches in the game... Can we please get some news? Image IPB


im starting to wonder if they are accually doing anything or just waiting for us to go away.

anyone remember deception....


I was just thinking about Deception.  It doesn't seem like there is a whole lot going on with the reprints that they announced. 

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Greed1914 wrote...

XqctaX wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Its not like we have anything new to talk about either... We can talk about the ending, or the bugs/glitches in the game... Can we please get some news? Image IPB


im starting to wonder if they are accually doing anything or just waiting for us to go away.

anyone remember deception....


I was just thinking about Deception.  It doesn't seem like there is a whole lot going on with the reprints that they announced. 


but going away for some of us means no more money for bioware, surley they know that?

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The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.

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sagevallant wrote...

How are we supposed to remain on topic if they never tell us anything about the EC? :whistle:


Question I already asked and got a condescending reply too.

The ending to ME3 is crap, and I don't think the EC will every be able to be awesome enough to bring back the passion we all had for the series. BioWare have successfully f-ed up and it is their loss when all the fans/customers don't buy DA3.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Ohpus wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

GoG.com will hook you up, $10 apiece for the BG games. With GoG's standard extras assortment; soundtrack, art, wallpapers, that kinda stuff. S'nice. I point people that way because CD Projekt knows how to treat their customers.


GoG?

Anyways. Anyone needs me, as unlikely as that may be, PM me. I have to shift over to the new thread. I can only focus on one thread when I'm at work.

I'll still be around now and then. I'm tracking down Biggles kills in the old thread.

GoG= Good Old Games
It's a really good set up that they've got going on~!


CD Projekt, who brought you Witcher 1/2. They also run GoG, which is basically Steam minus DRM for a ton of classic PC games. With bonus stuff. And they adjust prices FAIRLY, for all you non-American types who get ripped off on currencies. All games are DRM free, and if your comp crashes you can go back there and download again infinitely so long as the site exists. Some more modern indie titles are available there too.

It's where CDP originally started getting fans.

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Well if they close it again, there is a thread started here if anyone wants to join us.

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i think the whole situation stinks tbh, From what i have read on the net (not sure if true) this Casey Hudson guy locked out a lot of the writers from the ending. I dont know weather he has got some sort of god complex or weather the big wig EA goons wanted the ending to be a certain way (in EA's case that normally means very bad). Even assuming that I could get over the plot holes, and then somehow get over the downright awful PR of Bioware..... even if i could get over this there was the huge misrepresentation in the advertising. If i was to sell a car and say it could fly and it turns out it couldnt id probably have some angry customers. mite even get sued. This Casey guy is just an outlet for that anger at the misrepresentation of the product.

On another note being responsible for great games like KOTOR does not then excuse him from the steaming pile that is the ME3 ending.

I have been a huge Bioware fan ever since KOTOR, Dragon Age - Origins rose my opinion of them even higher, Mass Effect 1 and 2 were both masterpieces imho, but between DA2 and ME3 aswell as the huge sellout of KOTOR to the MMO parasites im not sure i can ever bring myself to buy another Bioware game. I know its sad but the amount of sadness i feel watching Bioware slide into mediocrity, then arrogance has made me as consumer feel both sad and angry.

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Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


Ok. What do you think about the ending?

Modifié par Astralify, 29 mai 2012 - 12:29 .


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Astralify wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


Ok. What do you think about the ending?


When there is an ending to ME3, we will be happy to discuss it.  :whistle:

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Ok, so how do we get a thread going where we can chill and relax and wait on the EC?

I feel that with the ending(s), we beat the horse to death - many times over. However, I still like discussing some of the ending details and people's ideas for them. After all, thats why I come to these threads!


*No soup for you!*

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Tonymac wrote...

Ok, so how do we get a thread going where we can chill and relax and wait on the EC?

I feel that with the ending(s), we beat the horse to death - many times over. However, I still like discussing some of the ending details and people's ideas for them. After all, thats why I come to these threads!


*No soup for you!*


we have one here, all topics allowed.

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Tonymac wrote...

Ok, so how do we get a thread going where we can chill and relax and wait on the EC?

I feel that with the ending(s), we beat the horse to death - many times over. However, I still like discussing some of the ending details and people's ideas for them. After all, thats why I come to these threads!


*No soup for you!*

See signature :)

*edit* Toffee beat me to it :)

Modifié par Kyria Nyriese, 29 mai 2012 - 12:51 .


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http://www.computera...ge=1#top_banner

I'm going to repost this from the other thread for those who didn't see it.

Quotes from the article

"The outcry over the ending seems excessive to me, but did it make
good science fiction?" he asks. "Well, was it good science? No. It was
pretty incomprehensible and didn't make much sense even within the
context of the game.
"But I'm actually a lot more interested in whether it made good
fiction. And the answer is 'no' again. Heavy exposition by a glowing
child never before mentioned seems a sure sign of failure."

"I think the problems started well before the ending," he explains. "The
Illusive Man went from fascinating power behind the throne in Mass
Effect 2 to tedious blathering villain in Mass Effect 3, for instance..... If the spike on the top of the skyscraper is wonky because the foundation is wonky, a new spike ain't going to fix it."
-Joe Abercrombie, author of the First Law trilogy

"My latest novel in the Pax Britannia series, Time's Arrow, is initially
being released in three parts as eBooks, and readers are able to vote
online for how they want the story to continue." When Time's Arrow is
finally printed it'll be a collaboration between author and reader, with
an ending the community helped decide before the novel was ever
finished."

"But there needs to be some form of emotional pay-off for all those
people who stuck with the over-arching story from day one. When it comes
to a huge game like Mass Effect 3, to have an ending which negates any
of the travails of the player is a mean-spirited and lazy thing to do."
Jonathan Green, Author in Star Wars Clone Wars series

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is it really against forum rules to call people a troll?

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Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


:huh: A tad gung ho today.

So what do you think was worse about the game ending: the pseudo science BS (even for science fiction) or the logical fallacies (appeal to authority, circular reasoning, etc.)?

Personally I am having trouble deciding.

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ArchDuck wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


:huh: A tad gung ho today.

So what do you think was worse about the game ending: the pseudo science BS (even for science fiction) or the logical fallacies (appeal to authority, circular reasoning, etc.)?

Personally I am having trouble deciding.


eh you lost me, i just thought it was crap bad story telling and misjointed from what came before

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ArchDuck wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


:huh: A tad gung ho today.

So what do you think was worse about the game ending: the pseudo science BS (even for science fiction) or the logical fallacies (appeal to authority, circular reasoning, etc.)?

Personally I am having trouble deciding.

Emm... all of the above?  That and the complete contradiction of established lore... let's see what other issues were their...

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ArchDuck wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

The last three pages (approximately 7 hours of posts) aren't really discussing the ME3 endings. Much more non-discussion, and this thread will also be closed.


:huh: A tad gung ho today.

So what do you think was worse about the game ending: the pseudo science BS (even for science fiction) or the logical fallacies (appeal to authority, circular reasoning, etc.)?

Personally I am having trouble deciding.


There was Science in the ending? I thought it was just shiny lights and space magic.