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Elana.S

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 Like many of you, I have been experiencing really horrific lag while trying to play multiplayer. I'm trying to understand this problem better.

1) Why does lag only ever seem to get worse and not better? What prompts lag to begin in the middle of a match? Why doesn't that same variable ever resolve itself?

2) For me, it happens the same way every time: the game starts to lag, but I keep playing and hope for the best; it gets worse and worse, and eventually it's just a frozen screen (usually over my poor dead body). I can hear some sounds, like people trying to revive me and objectives being completed, but eventually even audio begins to get choppy. After a good while of that, eventually I get the 'you have been disconnected from the EA servers' message. However, I can never press 'x' to continue. Once I get that message, I am consistently experiencing a total failure on my console. I can call up my dashboard but it will not respond to attempts to quit the game or turn off the console from the dash. I have, at times, let it struggle with itself for over twenty minutes, and it never sorts itself out. Essentially, every time I get lag, it leads to me having to get up and force reset my PlayStation.
Is this what other people are struggling with when they experience lag? Or do I have some sort of horrible mutation of it?

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Thank god I'm not the only one experiencing this. I hadn't played the game for two weeks or so until this weekend, but it seems this lag issue has really flared up now only. I don't recall having lag this severe and frequent before. To make matters worse, I tried to play a game and this lag occurs even while hosting!

Seriously, Bioware fix your ****ING game!!!

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Elana.S

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I'm no software engineer, but the more I think about it, the more this seems like some sort of 'memory leak' problem (a concept which I admit I don't fully understand) and not any kind of actual server or connection problem — especially if it happens even when hosting. Maybe 'lag' isn't even the right word for it.

That would explain why it only gets worse and never better, and why it usually happens a few games into my evening.

I just hope there's some way for my squadmates to see that I have been disconnected rather than just bailing from the game.

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Elana.S wrote...

I'm no software engineer, but the more I think about it, the more this seems like some sort of 'memory leak' problem (a concept which I admit I don't fully understand) and not any kind of actual server or connection problem — especially if it happens even when hosting. Maybe 'lag' isn't even the right word for it.

That would explain why it only gets worse and never better, and why it usually happens a few games into my evening.

I just hope there's some way for my squadmates to see that I have been disconnected rather than just bailing from the game.


I only knew a tiny bit of programing but the idea of having a memory leak in a finished product...

This only happens to me if I've been playing on PS for a long time, say 5 hrs. Other people have mentioned the same. Did you guys know usually how long you've been playing when this happens?

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Elana.S

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It happened to me just now. I think I'm about five hours in? This time, when the lag got bad enough to make playing very difficult, I quit the mission between waves to avoid total console lock-up. I tried to get into another game, and the audio continued to stutter somewhat, even in menu and loading screens. Once the next game started, I had about fifteen seconds of normal function before I started experiencing much worse lag, to the point where the start button was unresponsive and I could not choose to leave the mission. I hit the PS button just as the 'you have been disconnected from the EA server' message appeared, and I managed to quit the game without having to reset, but the console was very slow.

After restarting the game, however, I was able to host a game with no lag issues on my end (although a lot of people ditched the game... who knows, maybe I infected them with my problems somehow).

By the way wngmv, you were one of the people I saw ditch out of my lobby tonight ^_^ Unless someone else is using 'wngmv' as their PSN name.

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why is this happening all the time now ever since psn update last week

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Elana.S wrote...

 Like many of you, I have been experiencing really horrific lag while trying to play multiplayer. I'm trying to understand this problem better.

1) Why does lag only ever seem to get worse and not better? What prompts lag to begin in the middle of a match? Why doesn't that same variable ever resolve itself?

2) For me, it happens the same way every time: the game starts to lag, but I keep playing and hope for the best; it gets worse and worse, and eventually it's just a frozen screen (usually over my poor dead body). I can hear some sounds, like people trying to revive me and objectives being completed, but eventually even audio begins to get choppy. After a good while of that, eventually I get the 'you have been disconnected from the EA servers' message. However, I can never press 'x' to continue. Once I get that message, I am consistently experiencing a total failure on my console. I can call up my dashboard but it will not respond to attempts to quit the game or turn off the console from the dash. I have, at times, let it struggle with itself for over twenty minutes, and it never sorts itself out. Essentially, every time I get lag, it leads to me having to get up and force reset my PlayStation.
Is this what other people are struggling with when they experience lag? Or do I have some sort of horrible mutation of it?

It's a memory leak. Not in the menus, it's a game engine memory leak. I doubt the patch will address this. It has gotten worse with each DLC, too, which makes sense -- there's more stuff for the game to have to load, so it hits max memory use faster.
I will also bet every credit I have and a Valiant X that when this happens to you your hard drive is almost constantly running. That's called 'thrashing' and it isn't good.

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Thanks for that very clear answer. And you're right: my PS3 whirs frantically while this is happening.

Is thrashing bad because it will damage my hardware?

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Cundu_Ertur

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It's very unlikely to permanently harm your system, but it does increase the odds of something bad happening. Most likely you just have to reboot, and nothing bad will happen.
That's called "did you turn it off and back on again." Sad, but it is effective.

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+1 to OP

...only thing to evade/avoid/bypass this problem is to reboot your ps3 (or maybe just restart the game).
i ususally do this after playing 2 or 3 matches...
not the best solution, but i have no other idea or option.

i hope they´ll fix this asap....it´s a very very annoying issue.... :-((

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I played a match with 3 others last night and we all had to restart our PS3s at least twice. I had to restart 4 times but only one of those restarts was because of lag.

Modifié par forsaken_solider, 30 mai 2012 - 11:58 .


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I have that problem too, it used to be happening after 2+ hours of playing, but since DLC its faster.
It is definitely a memory-leak issue, the symptoms are very clear: slow-down keeps getting worse while the HD in the console spins more and more loud -- indicating heavy memory-swapping.
(I'm a programmer with 20+ years experience, so I can recognize a memory-leak, trust me)

We should be getting the patch tomorrow, and it has a memory-leak fix listed on it, so lets
keep our fingers crossed and wait until the patch is installed. If the issue remains after that, then we need to start bombarding BioWare support about it, because it breaks the game real bad...

In the meantime, the work-around: quit & reload the game after every other match played.

Modifié par Zso_Zso, 30 mai 2012 - 08:25 .


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Oh thank goodness I'm not the only one, I thought this was my PS3 showing her age. I began experiencing severe lag while accimulating credits yesterday for the Rebellion DLC, prior to it going live, I'm guessing this is one of patch 1.03 side effects. Please fix this Bioware, this is rediculous!

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Cundu_Ertur wrote...

It's a memory leak. Not in the menus, it's a game engine memory leak. I doubt the patch will address this. It has gotten worse with each DLC, too, which makes sense -- there's more stuff for the game to have to load, so it hits max memory use faster.
I will also bet every credit I have and a Valiant X that when this happens to you your hard drive is almost constantly running. That's called 'thrashing' and it isn't good.


true, after installing the new DLC, the frequency of the lag seem to occur much sooner.  Noticed that the lag now happens every three match.  Before I have no issues until I play the 5th match.  Have to reboot my ps3 after the 2nd match to avoid this.

A fix is badly needed.

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I experienced this today. I'd like to note that it was never this bad for me until I installed the new DLC yesterday. For me the lag really began when I tried gold and silver matches. But now it doesn't seem to matter- I got disconnected from the server just trying to log on to a bronze match. :?

Oh and Instead of restarting your console, try removing the disc- this should make it go back to the PS3 interface rather then a hard reset. Hopefully tomorrow's patch will address this.

Modifié par Anksara, 30 mai 2012 - 11:48 .


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Elana.S

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Zso_Zso wrote...

I have that problem too, it used to be happening after 2+ hours of playing, but since DLC its faster.
It is definitely a memory-leak issue, the symptoms are very clear: slow-down keeps getting worse while the HD in the console spins more and more loud -- indicating heavy memory-swapping.
(I'm a programmer with 20+ years experience, so I can recognize a memory-leak, trust me)

We should be getting the patch tomorrow, and it has a memory-leak fix listed on it, so lets
keep our fingers crossed and wait until the patch is installed. If the issue remains after that, then we need to start bombarding BioWare support about it, because it breaks the game real bad...

In the meantime, the work-around: quit & reload the game after every other match played.


Thanks so much for this. Good news about hopefully getting a fix tomorrow, because although I'm sure your workaround works, it's rather annoying and makes it impossible to stick with any good squad I might come across!