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[Icemix]

cyniel wrote...

Icemix wrote...

cyniel wrote...

And this just turned into another anti-bioware topic. I have to say that I'm willing to wait to an announcement for EC. Yeah, I'm one of the few that liked the ending after having spent years and multiple playthroughs with my Shepard. It's ultimately Bioware's game and theirs to do with what they want.

Now, with knowing there is no announcement of EC, what will Bioware announce at E3? Will it be Mass Effect or something Dragon Age related?

You like the ending or you are a fan of the IT headcannon? There is a huge difference.

I don't acknowledge IT. I actually like the ending, clarification will definitely help with certain plot holes.

But wait, you acknowledge that there are plot holes in the ending, stuff that does not make any sense and yet you like it?
How does that work?

[Archer]

DoctorEss wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Daniel_N7 wrote...

New tweet coming from Chris Priestly's twitter:

«People keep asking me, so to be clear: No, there will be no ME3 Extended Cut preview, video, announce, etc at E3.»
[link]

Another nail in the coffin. And it proves, once more, that the PR department is still running the show.

Yes, we are listening...

Wow, you pretty much totally got this wrong.

PR are the people who WANT to announce dates. It behooves PR to be able to tell press or whomever that X is when you will learn things as it generates magzine or website news. E3 is a HUGE PR event (not only for BioWare and EA for all gaming).

If the Extended Cut was ready to have an annoucenement on a date or similar the PR team would likely want to announce, However, since the Extended Cut is not yet ready to be announced, there is no date for E3. It is that simple.

And your little "yes we are listening" thing... yeah. Awesome. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes us want to announce. "Why aren't the Devs telling us anything? Why have they stopped talking? Why are they ignoring us?" Gee... I wonder why?

Funny thing, Chris.  Respect is bidirectional, you know?  If you spend as much time as you have being condescending, rude, and downright disrespectful to customers, PAYING customers, don't tell me you're honestly surprised that you get what you give.

Just remember, when EA asks you "Why aren't they buying your products?  Why have they stopped giving us money?"

Gee... I wonder why?

In other words, we're the ones with the money.  It's not like you really need it explained what happens when our money stops entering EA's accounts.  It'd behoove you to *actually* listen, instead of just acting like you are, because you were told to say that.

Gamers and our money will always be here.  Game companies and their staff?  Nah.  Not so much.  Ask Sierra, Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood, Troika.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.  It's not EA, for the record.  It's all of us.

Pretty much sums up my feelings lately.

Getting a little tired of being spoken down to by Bioware, as a paying customer.

I understand it can be frustrating and difficult to deal with customers who are angry and,as has happened in some cases, customers who complain aggresivley about their issues.

But heres an observation from someone who has worked in customer service based role for the last twenty years. No matter how angry, sarcastic, or verbaly abusive my angry customer may have been i can assure you the one thing i could do to make the situation WORSE would be to respond in kind. The best response normally starts with identifying with your customers concern and generating some empathy as to why they are feeling as upset or as angry as they do. Its actually a very good way to start calming the customer down so you can actually enter into a sensible and reasonable dialogue with a hope to perhaps resolving the issue in a way that satisfies both parties.

Behaving in a condescending manner to a paying customer is profesional suicide, as is "questioning their intelligence" (which Chris has actually done in another thread i came accross a few days ago)

Since the whole uproar about the endings began, every developer or senior exec post released by Bioware IMO seem geared and worded to almost make it seem that its OUR fault theres issues with this game. Dont understand Biowares artistic vision for the game? Unhappy with it? Dont blame Bioware. Its the customers fault for not getting it. After all 75 perfect reviews by numerous industry reviewers (who didnt even finish the game in a lot of cases) support this....

But to remain on topic. I dont think its just the lack of info about the EC thats getting the communities back up again lately. Personaly i am fine waiting and judging the EC on its own merits, although personaly i dont think it addresses a single issue the community raised regarding the endings. There are other issues we are feeling ignored on-

Single Player EMS issue- several months in and no response at all. Your company Chris, assured me pre release i would not have to play MP. The lack of a response or update on this issue leads me to conclude that this was yet ANOTHER lie to get me to buy the game. You cannot get 4000 EMS without using aps or MP in order to get the "Shepard takes a breath" scene. Thats SP content i cannot access unless i play MP. Unless Bioware come in here and explain to me how this is a bug i will continue to believe that this was intended and you LIED to me.

I wont even bother getting started on the whole 16 different endings, the rachni have a big impact, no ABC endings qoutes etc.....

Perhaps someone at Bioware could swing by here and OFFICIALY explain why lying to me about this product was considered a good marketing move?

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 28 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[cyniel]

BrotherWarth wrote...

cyniel wrote...

It's ultimately Bioware's game and theirs to do with what they want.

I hate seeing this over and over. Of course it's Bioware's product. No one is disputing that. But it's also Bioware's future that is in their hands. After DA2, TOR and now ME3 they are a damaged brand. Fans won't just blindly accept whatever Bioware pumps out when they can't rely on Bioware to make quality products any more.

Considering that they're reusing their own storylines for different games and hardly anything is original anymore, it's now in the same place as other companies. I don't blindly buy games from Activision, Rockstar or even Bethesda. I sometimes do buy games to complete a series though. I have the collector's editions for the games that Bioware released as collectors and will continue buying their product mostly because I want to know how the story ends. Now, my Shepard's story is done. I still have DA to look forward to. My boyfriend said that the best way to let a company know that you don't like them is to stop buying their product and you know, that's what I did to Square Enix after Final Fantasy X. I haven't bought another game from them since. 

Fans shouldn't blindly accept whatever Bioware or any other company pumps out. Products can be rushed, they can be bad. This happened many times in different companies before. Maybe if Bioware ever becomes like Blizzard, it'll be a different story but for now it's the fans that will criticize their product, the decline in sales that will show them that they need to do better.

tl;dr: If you want to make a statement to Bioware, don't buy their products and don't download their DLC. 

[Esoretal]

Navasha wrote...

Honestly, I think part of the reason so many gamers are becoming disappointed with games lately is there is way too much information about the games prior to release. Sure, it builds excitement for the games, but it also builds an almost impossible level of expectations.

One of the most important lessons I have learned in my life is a simple mathematical formula:
Happiness = Reality - Expectations

If you want to be happy with something, don't make your expectations higher than the reality or you end up with a negative number. This sounds odd to express emotions in mathematics, but I tell you it works 100% of the time.

Its far better to be pleasantly surprised when a game is truly great when you didn't expect much in the first place, than to feel betrayed and distraught when a game you believed would be stellar doesn't live up to the hype.

This goes for the EC as well.

The press didn't build up the expectations, the previous two games did. I was incredibly surprised and pleased with how the first two games went, so naturally I was expecting ME3 to top both of them. And 99% of the game completely blew me away.

The "Take Earth Back" press campaign did turn out to be completely false, though, which I don't understand in the least. It was a reasonable expectation, considering the entire goal of the series was to defeat the Reapers and defend the galaxy. The disappointment is with the complete faceplant of the series in the end, not with ME3 as a whole. It was actually surpassing even my highest expectations until that happened.

[cyniel]

Icemix wrote...

cyniel wrote...

Icemix wrote...

cyniel wrote...

And this just turned into another anti-bioware topic. I have to say that I'm willing to wait to an announcement for EC. Yeah, I'm one of the few that liked the ending after having spent years and multiple playthroughs with my Shepard. It's ultimately Bioware's game and theirs to do with what they want.

Now, with knowing there is no announcement of EC, what will Bioware announce at E3? Will it be Mass Effect or something Dragon Age related?

You like the ending or you are a fan of the IT headcannon? There is a huge difference.

I don't acknowledge IT. I actually like the ending, clarification will definitely help with certain plot holes.

But wait, you acknowledge that there are plot holes in the ending, stuff that does not make any sense and yet you like it?
How does that work?

Ah. I didn't say that I loved it. To me, since the trailer this game was Bioware's and Mass Effect's Halo: Reach (the only Bungie game that I ever played and it was for the story). The last stand, if you will. I played it knowing that this will be the last I will see of my Shepard. The starchild was an interesting addition, but I've seen additions like that done from Square Enix. Plot holes exist in most RPG games, unfortuantely, there's nothing that you can do about that, most of the time unless a company is willing to address them. They existed in every Bioware game that I've played so far. I loved the cinematics of the ending (the ships arriving; the battle taking place on Earth) but seeing my dead LI (who was running to the beam with me) was questioning as well as Joker taking off. I'm honestly happy that they're willing to fix those plotholes in EC. 

[cyniel]

BrotherWarth wrote...

cyniel wrote...

Ah. I didn't say that I loved it. To me, since the trailer this game was Bioware's and Mass Effect's Halo: Reach (the only Bungie game that I ever played and it was for the story). The last stand, if you will. I played it knowing that this will be the last I will see of my Shepard. The starchild was an interesting addition, but I've seen additions like that done from Square Enix. Plot holes exist in most RPG games, unfortuantely, there's nothing that you can do about that, most of the time unless a company is willing to address them. They existed in every Bioware game that I've played so far. I loved the cinematics of the ending (the ships arriving; the battle taking place on Earth) but seeing my dead LI (who was running to the beam with me) was questioning as well as Joker taking off. I'm honestly happy that they're willing to fix those plotholes in EC. 

You thought the StarChild was interesting? In literary terms that's known as Deus ex machina. It's frowned upon by writers because it's generally viewed as laziness to introduce a "magical" being or item at the last minute to explain away/solve problems.

Final Fantasy IX had something similar to the StarChild. So for me, it was interesting that Bioware decided to go that way instead of us figuring out how to operate the catalyst. Then again, it was hinted earlier in the game that there is a being responsible for the cycle. 

[Icemix]

cyniel wrote...

Icemix wrote...

cyniel wrote...

Icemix wrote...

cyniel wrote...

And this just turned into another anti-bioware topic. I have to say that I'm willing to wait to an announcement for EC. Yeah, I'm one of the few that liked the ending after having spent years and multiple playthroughs with my Shepard. It's ultimately Bioware's game and theirs to do with what they want.

Now, with knowing there is no announcement of EC, what will Bioware announce at E3? Will it be Mass Effect or something Dragon Age related?

You like the ending or you are a fan of the IT headcannon? There is a huge difference.

I don't acknowledge IT. I actually like the ending, clarification will definitely help with certain plot holes.

But wait, you acknowledge that there are plot holes in the ending, stuff that does not make any sense and yet you like it?
How does that work?

Ah. I didn't say that I loved it. To me, since the trailer this game was Bioware's and Mass Effect's Halo: Reach (the only Bungie game that I ever played and it was for the story). The last stand, if you will. I played it knowing that this will be the last I will see of my Shepard. The starchild was an interesting addition, but I've seen additions like that done from Square Enix. Plot holes exist in most RPG games, unfortuantely, there's nothing that you can do about that, most of the time unless a company is willing to address them. They existed in every Bioware game that I've played so far. I loved the cinematics of the ending (the ships arriving; the battle taking place on Earth) but seeing my dead LI (who was running to the beam with me) was questioning as well as Joker taking off. I'm honestly happy that they're willing to fix those plotholes in EC. 

I am going to go as far as to say that YOUR Shepard's story does not conclude in the current ending. Going to try and avoid spoilers, so lets talk in colors. In blue, you have absolutely no idea what is going to happen to Shepard and the Reapers. In green, you also can't say for sure what happens to Shepard and the Reapers (that ending is impossible, so I kinda never count it). In red, you know what happens to the Reapers, but again, you have that breath scene, and Shepard's story is still not concluded if you can reach that high rating. 

So yeah, quite the conclusion we have here. And they are surprised we did not like it? HOW DARE WE QUESTION NONSENSE!

Modifié par Icemix, 28 mai 2012 - 07:03 .

[Max Knight]

BrotherWarth wrote...

cyniel wrote...

Ah. I didn't say that I loved it. To me, since the trailer this game was Bioware's and Mass Effect's Halo: Reach (the only Bungie game that I ever played and it was for the story). The last stand, if you will. I played it knowing that this will be the last I will see of my Shepard. The starchild was an interesting addition, but I've seen additions like that done from Square Enix. Plot holes exist in most RPG games, unfortuantely, there's nothing that you can do about that, most of the time unless a company is willing to address them. They existed in every Bioware game that I've played so far. I loved the cinematics of the ending (the ships arriving; the battle taking place on Earth) but seeing my dead LI (who was running to the beam with me) was questioning as well as Joker taking off. I'm honestly happy that they're willing to fix those plotholes in EC. 

You thought the StarChild was interesting? In literary terms that's known as Deus ex machina. It's frowned upon by writers because it's generally viewed as laziness to introduce a "magical" being or item at the last minute to explain away/solve problems.

I usualy don't have a problem wit DEM,if it's implemeted properly and in a manner  tha doesn't let me think what in the name of Jesus H, Christ is this, which was case,of ufortunatly, me3 ending

[cyniel]

Icemix wrote...

I am going to go as far as to say that YOUR Shepard's story does not conclude in the current ending. Going to try and avoid spoilers, so lets talk in colors. In blue, you have absolutely no idea what is going to happen to Shepard and the Reapers. In green, you also can't say for sure what happens to Shepard and the Reapers (that ending is impossible, so I kinda never count it). In red, you know what happens to the Reapers, but again, you have that breath scene, and Shepard's story is still not concluded if you can reach that high rating. 

So yeah, quite the conclusion we have here. And they are surprised we did not like it? HOW DARE WE QUESTION NONSENSE!

I only chose Red for my ending. In the 3 playthroughs that I've done of the game so far, that's the only one that I support. Yes, the breathing scene appears for me but even then for some reason, I just don't think that the next Mass Effect will have my Shepard. I saw my Shepard break throughout the game and after that final battle, I just don't see her coming back into the field. 

Modifié par cyniel, 28 mai 2012 - 07:07 .

[Getorex]

Hmmm. Cake?

[Max Knight]

Getorex wrote...

Hmmm. Cake?

The is no Cake the cake is a lie.

[Getorex]

Max Knight wrote...


 I usualy don't have a problem wit DEM,if it's implemeted properly and in a manner  tha doesn't let me think what in the name of Jesus H, Christ is this, which was case,of ufortunatly, me3 ending

Hey, we could be identical twins! 

See?  Almost identical to what you thought!

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 28 mai 2012 - 08:28 .

[Daniel_N7]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Daniel_N7 wrote...

New tweet coming from Chris Priestly's twitter:

«People keep asking me, so to be clear: No, there will be no ME3 Extended Cut preview, video, announce, etc at E3.»
[link]

Another nail in the coffin. And it proves, once more, that the PR department is still running the show.

Yes, we are listening...

Wow, you pretty much totally got this wrong.

PR are the people who WANT to announce dates. It behooves PR to be able to tell press or whomever that X is when you will learn things as it generates magzine or website news. E3 is a HUGE PR event (not only for BioWare and EA for all gaming).

If the Extended Cut was ready to have an annoucenement on a date or similar the PR team would likely want to announce, However, since the Extended Cut is not yet ready to be announced, there is no date for E3. It is that simple.

And your little "yes we are listening" thing... yeah. Awesome. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes us want to announce. "Why aren't the Devs telling us anything? Why have they stopped talking? Why are they ignoring us?" Gee... I wonder why?

@Chris Priestly If you're still reading, okay, I understand my reaction came out pretty harsh. Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpreted BioWare's silence as a communication strategy: a decision not to put the spotlight on the whole ME3 ending issue on E3.

As for the "Yes we are listening" quote, it relates to very topic on this thread. To the way BioWare has been dealing with this whole issue. I'm a grown man and I can understand the emotional undertone in your reply. You make me feel the need to apologize - I'm not here to hurt you guys. But, as a grown man, if I take a step back to get a better look, I can't understand your strategy. In these last couple of months you've let a big part of your community snowball out of control. If you really look into the two official statements you released - Casey Hudson's and Dr. Ray Muzyka's - you can see the passive-agressiveness incubating right there. And PAX, I'm sorry to say (and you may all disagree) was completely counter-productive; it stirred up all the wrong feelings in everyone that has a bad perception/opinion of the ending, and again, just left us all hanging here.

So, naturally, we are all waiting with great anticipation, for every sign, every indication that the EC will be successful. That you are taking this seriously. In good faith, I'll reinterpret your tweets for what they are - a statement that you're all working hard to deliver the best possible EC. But it wouldn't hurt to try to reestablish a thread of communication with your disappointed fans. I'm writing this without any hint of irony: do you guys even know how much we love your game; this fictional work you've built for us? Honestly, Mass Effect is too good to end up with everyone angry at eachother.

(Sorry for the mean smiley)

[Max Knight]

Getorex wrote...

Max Knight wrote...


 I usualy don't have a problem wit DEM,if it's implemeted properly and in a manner  tha doesn't let me think what in the name of Jesus H, Christ is this, which was case,of ufortunatly, me3 ending

Hey, we could be identical twins!  Except I thought, "What the F*CK WAS THAT!?  $*@!)&$(&&!! you Bioware cretins you can @*!&$^#@&^@%%! and I hope your mothers !@#^*($&^% on the backside of a cow and !^@#%&$.  Son of a B*TCH!"

See?  Almost identical to what you thought!

well my thought well along the lines nah must have missed something,did a 2nd run and found out this was indeed it and that the fabled 4th ending is the breath in the rubble scene and thought. SOB this is indeed it so please god,Krishna,Budha, Allah or Satan or whattever get rid of that abomination of a Start brat , that and the logic behind the reapers and this was my reaction ,,,are you bloody joking?!

but hopefully the EC will solve 95 % of my problem wit the ending, ie. plotholes like normandy trough relay and my sqadies teleportingto Normandy etc,

Modifié par Max Knight, 28 mai 2012 - 07:38 .

[Getorex]

Max Knight wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Max Knight wrote...


 I usualy don't have a problem wit DEM,if it's implemeted properly and in a manner  tha doesn't let me think what in the name of Jesus H, Christ is this, which was case,of ufortunatly, me3 ending

Hey, we could be identical twins!  Except I thought, "What the F*CK WAS THAT!?  $*@!)&$(&&!! you Bioware cretins you can @*!&$^#@&^@%%! and I hope your mothers !@#^*($&^% on the backside of a cow and !^@#%&$.  Son of a B*TCH!"

See?  Almost identical to what you thought!

well my thought well along the lines nah must have missed something,did a 2nd run and found out this was indeed it and that the fabled 4th ending is the breath in the rubble scene and thought. SOB this is indeed it so please god,Krishna,Budha, Allah or Satan or whattever get rid of that abomination of a Start brat , that and the logic behind the reapers and this was my reaction ,,,are you bloody joking?!

but hopefully the EC will solve 95 % of my problem wit the ending, ie. plotholes like normandy trough relay and my sqadies teleportingto Normandy etc,

OK, maybe fraternal twins because mine is more:
cdn2.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5796/What-the-****.jpg

[Forsythia]

Chris Priestly wrote...

And your little "yes we are listening" thing... yeah. Awesome. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes us want to announce. "Why aren't the Devs telling us anything? Why have they stopped talking? Why are they ignoring us?" Gee... I wonder why?

It comes both ways, Chris. I can understand some of the frustration, but come on, we're your customers. Something like this is the exact reason why people doubt that BioWare is actually listening.

Modifié par Forsythia, 28 mai 2012 - 07:53 .

[Archer]

Daniel_N7 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Daniel_N7 wrote...

New tweet coming from Chris Priestly's twitter:

«People keep asking me, so to be clear: No, there will be no ME3 Extended Cut preview, video, announce, etc at E3.»
[link]

Another nail in the coffin. And it proves, once more, that the PR department is still running the show.

Yes, we are listening...

Wow, you pretty much totally got this wrong.

PR are the people who WANT to announce dates. It behooves PR to be able to tell press or whomever that X is when you will learn things as it generates magzine or website news. E3 is a HUGE PR event (not only for BioWare and EA for all gaming).

If the Extended Cut was ready to have an annoucenement on a date or similar the PR team would likely want to announce, However, since the Extended Cut is not yet ready to be announced, there is no date for E3. It is that simple.

And your little "yes we are listening" thing... yeah. Awesome. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes us want to announce. "Why aren't the Devs telling us anything? Why have they stopped talking? Why are they ignoring us?" Gee... I wonder why?

@Chris Priestly If you're still reading, okay, I understand my reaction came out pretty harsh. Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpreted BioWare's silence as a communication strategy: a decision not to put the spotlight on the whole ME3 ending issue on E3.

As for the "Yes we are listening" quote, it relates to very topic on this thread. To the way BioWare has been dealing with this whole issue. I'm a grown man and I can understand the emotional undertone in your reply. You make me feel the need to apologize - I'm not here to hurt you guys. But, as a grown man, if I take a step back to get a better look, I can't understand your strategy. In these last couple of months you've let a big part of your community snowball out of control. If you really look into the two official statements you released - Casey Hudson's and Dr. Ray Muzyka's - you can see the passive-agressiveness incubating right there. And PAX, I'm sorry to say (and you may all disagree) was completely counter-productive; it stirred up all the wrong feelings in everyone that has a bad perception/opinion of the ending, and again, just left us all hanging here.

So, naturally, we are all waiting with great anticipation, for every sign, every indication that the EC will be successful. That you are taking this seriously. In good faith, I'll reinterpret your tweets for what they are - a statement that you're all working hard to deliver the best possible EC. But it wouldn't hurt to try to reestablish a thread of communication with your disappointed fans. I'm writing this without any hint of irony: do you guys even know how much we love your game; this fictional work you've built for us? Honestly, Mass Effect is too good to end up with everyone angry at eachother.

(Sorry for the mean smiley)

I agree with your points but not the apology. IMHO it should be Chris apologising to you. Regardless, at the end of the day your a paying customer and your initial post while obviously showing signs of your frustration, wasnt offensive or overly aggressive.

Isnt it his job to deal with these things in a profesional manner? That reply IMHO wasnt profesional.

Strange times when the paying customer, who is upset or has an issue is the one apologising for it.

Goes straight back to the point i made earlier about Bioware truning things around so we feel like all the issues are our fault.

And for the record i am not "attacking" a Bioware employee, i am simplying voicing my upset and disatisfaction about the way we are spoken to sometimes.

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 28 mai 2012 - 07:54 .

[Chris Priestly]

eveynameiwantisfekintaken wrote...

And for the record i am not "attacking" a Bioware employee, i am simplying voicing my upset and disatisfaction about the way we are spoken to sometimes.

Yet when I do it....

[cyniel]

eveynameiwantisfekintaken wrote...

Daniel_N7 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

[

Wow, you pretty much totally got this wrong.

PR are the people who WANT to announce dates. It behooves PR to be able to tell press or whomever that X is when you will learn things as it generates magzine or website news. E3 is a HUGE PR event (not only for BioWare and EA for all gaming).

If the Extended Cut was ready to have an annoucenement on a date or similar the PR team would likely want to announce, However, since the Extended Cut is not yet ready to be announced, there is no date for E3. It is that simple.

And your little "yes we are listening" thing... yeah. Awesome. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes us want to announce. "Why aren't the Devs telling us anything? Why have they stopped talking? Why are they ignoring us?" Gee... I wonder why?

@Chris Priestly If you're still reading, okay, I understand my reaction came out pretty harsh. Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpreted BioWare's silence as a communication strategy: a decision not to put the spotlight on the whole ME3 ending issue on E3.

As for the "Yes we are listening" quote, it relates to very topic on this thread. To the way BioWare has been dealing with this whole issue. I'm a grown man and I can understand the emotional undertone in your reply. You make me feel the need to apologize - I'm not here to hurt you guys. But, as a grown man, if I take a step back to get a better look, I can't understand your strategy. In these last couple of months you've let a big part of your community snowball out of control. If you really look into the two official statements you released - Casey Hudson's and Dr. Ray Muzyka's - you can see the passive-agressiveness incubating right there. And PAX, I'm sorry to say (and you may all disagree) was completely counter-productive; it stirred up all the wrong feelings in everyone that has a bad perception/opinion of the ending, and again, just left us all hanging here.

So, naturally, we are all waiting with great anticipation, for every sign, every indication that the EC will be successful. That you are taking this seriously. In good faith, I'll reinterpret your tweets for what they are - a statement that you're all working hard to deliver the best possible EC. But it wouldn't hurt to try to reestablish a thread of communication with your disappointed fans. I'm writing this without any hint of irony: do you guys even know how much we love your game; this fictional work you've built for us? Honestly, Mass Effect is too good to end up with everyone angry at eachother.

(Sorry for the mean smiley)

I agree with your points but not the apology. IMHO it should be Chris apologising to you. Regardless, at the end of the day your a paying customer and your initial post while obviously showing signs of your frustration, wasnt offensive or overly aggressive.

Isnt it his job to deal with these things in a profesional manner? That reply IMHO wasnt profesional.

Strange times when the paying customer, who is upset or has an issue is the one apologising for it.

Goes straight back to the point i made earlier about Bioware truning things around so we feel like all the issues are our fault.

And for the record i am not "attacking" a Bioware employee, i am simplying voicing my upset and disatisfaction about the way we are spoken to sometimes.

I think the entire issue is that Bioware didn't forgot how some fans jumped at and destroyed everything that people invovled with the game were saying. Even Chris and other Bioware employees words were criticized of being PR driven and regarded as false. Basically, some fans "attacked" Bioware employees in the beginning of this mess. Now, Bioware is more cautious, not responding as much openly to feedback.

Would you want your every sentence disected every time you reply to a fan? Anyway, that's just my 2 cents in the matter. How the relationship progresses now is up to both parties (customers and Bioware as a company)? Remember Chris is just one person who works at Bioware, other employees may have different ways of handling a situation. 

Another thing is that Chris's other tweet was: 
The ME3 team is still working hard on the EC. We have no further news and won't be rushing it or announcements on it. #[/s]ME3[/b] 

So, it is possible that the devlopment team is not really talking about what they are doing to him and that they don't have anything concrete to show the public yet without spoiling the game for those that haven't played it/finished it.

Modifié par cyniel, 28 mai 2012 - 08:04 .

[Icemix]

Ok people, that was his personal tweeter. I think he can post whatever he likes there. Christ has always been professional on the forums, so I don't see what the big deal is.
We wanted news or some info on EC, Chris has told us that they can't discuss it now. Done deal.

Back to speculating everyone!

[DoctorEss]

No. He hasn't. He's been continually rude and condescending to paying customers here.

[Max Knight]

Chris Priestly wrote...

eveynameiwantisfekintaken wrote...

And for the record i am not "attacking" a Bioware employee, i am simplying voicing my upset and disatisfaction about the way we are spoken to sometimes.

Yet when I do it....

You get shot down for A) voicing you opinion juts doing your job or C) your Trade mark smiely it sometimes makes hard to recognize sacasm, at least for me.

[Daniel_N7]

Icemix wrote...

Ok people, that was his personal tweeter. I think he can post whatever he likes there. Christ has always been professional on the forums, so I don't see what the big deal is.
We wanted news or some info on EC, Chris has told us that they can't discuss it now. Done deal.

Back to speculating everyone!

Christ? Hmm, I don't think Mr. Priestly has ascended to the status of Messiah yet. And he's probably no saint either... :innocent:

[Max Knight]

DoctorEss wrote...

No. He hasn't. He's been continually rude and condescending to paying customers here.

sometimes it seemed like overly harsh reaction yes but sometimes it was totaly justified like the ME3 is 50% off at origin thread the OP was just an idiot if you excuse my language.