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So I just tried it and everything works great, nice to be able to play the game w/o the constant restarts. Thanks Zippi.

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Apex Sammoth wrote...

JironGhrad wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

The CTD issue is a real problem and need to be adressed by Bioware but, hey I am sure we will see the DLC before a fix on those major issues. They will not see a DIME of my money untill they fix CTD, Memory Leaks, and Long Load Screens. That means if it's not fixed by ME2 or Knights release that will be 2 more titles I had planned to purchase not getting purchased. Thnx for trying OP sometimes I wish Bioware would put as much time and resources that you guys put into fixing there product. I really appreciate the time and effort you guys put into doing this but, the reality is Bioware needs to fix it.


I hate to say it, but that's a silly approach to the issue.  The team that does the DLC is different than the team that fixes issues. So the release schedule is completely unrelated.  By the same token, both other games you mentioned are being developed by a different group of people so the issues here are completely unrelated to the development there. 

Further, I'm fully convinced that there are problems with this game but they're not memory leaks or long load screens or CTDs.  The "so-called memory leak" is clearly a problem with processor thread handling.  How much of it is Bioware's fault or can be fixed by them remains to be seen. The fact that CPU affinity, CPU patching and swapping CPU's has resolved the problem in any cases at all proves that there isn't actually memory leak.  Likewise, the long load screen issue is based on the processor speed and is directly related to the processor thread handling issue.  CTDs may or may not be a problem with the game, a problem with a particular driver, a bad sector or cluster on the HDD, failing memory modules, conflicting programs running in the background, overheating CPU/GPU or a corrupted OS/spyware/virus infection. 

There's a lot of "ifs" there that have nothing to do with the game itself.  If the problems that occur lie anywhere outside the game code, no matter how many fixes they implement at Bioware it will never go away. Therefore, let's all back away from the nerd rage, get some air, do the "holiday thing" and see what happens as the people at Bioware do their jobs and fix what they can on their end.


I have to agree. That why I am still not playing it the game is FUBAR at the moment. See the problem with the DLC has alot to do with the company as a whole. All money generated by any company is split up into dvisions and spent. I seriously think they should spend more time and resources Fixing this issue with DAO then worrying about content. The Approach to The Other games is my own way of Boycotting them untill they fix the Issue with DAO. I have done multiple tests and hardware swaps and its the same thing. So What does that say ? I am not going to say it's everyone that has these issue due to the game but, the reality is this should be working as advertised. I did not spend money to scroll through thread of workarounds trying to get this game to work. So its over a month since release and sit here patiently and yet to see a patch on this issue. Keep in mind Bioware has already acknowledged these issues on an old thread. Posted Image


I'm aware of the thread, but as I recall it was one of the PR or QA people who posted and not one of the back-end programmers.  I stand by my statements based on the fact that as the old saying goes, "Calling a tail a leg does not make it so."

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I just tried this program and I dunno if it did this to anyone else but it basically slaughtered my computer.



I couldnt do anything. None of my desktop icons were visible, my start menu/task bar dissapeared. All i could see was my desktop picture.



So um yeh... Had to do a hard restart after which it took forever for my comp to restart and now Windows thinks it needs to be activated again.

My god its annoying.



Anyway um. Dunno what I did wrong lol. OH well.

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Apex Sammoth

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JironGhrad wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

JironGhrad wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

The CTD issue is a real problem and need to be adressed by Bioware but, hey I am sure we will see the DLC before a fix on those major issues. They will not see a DIME of my money untill they fix CTD, Memory Leaks, and Long Load Screens. That means if it's not fixed by ME2 or Knights release that will be 2 more titles I had planned to purchase not getting purchased. Thnx for trying OP sometimes I wish Bioware would put as much time and resources that you guys put into fixing there product. I really appreciate the time and effort you guys put into doing this but, the reality is Bioware needs to fix it.


I hate to say it, but that's a silly approach to the issue.  The team that does the DLC is different than the team that fixes issues. So the release schedule is completely unrelated.  By the same token, both other games you mentioned are being developed by a different group of people so the issues here are completely unrelated to the development there. 

Further, I'm fully convinced that there are problems with this game but they're not memory leaks or long load screens or CTDs.  The "so-called memory leak" is clearly a problem with processor thread handling.  How much of it is Bioware's fault or can be fixed by them remains to be seen. The fact that CPU affinity, CPU patching and swapping CPU's has resolved the problem in any cases at all proves that there isn't actually memory leak.  Likewise, the long load screen issue is based on the processor speed and is directly related to the processor thread handling issue.  CTDs may or may not be a problem with the game, a problem with a particular driver, a bad sector or cluster on the HDD, failing memory modules, conflicting programs running in the background, overheating CPU/GPU or a corrupted OS/spyware/virus infection. 

There's a lot of "ifs" there that have nothing to do with the game itself.  If the problems that occur lie anywhere outside the game code, no matter how many fixes they implement at Bioware it will never go away. Therefore, let's all back away from the nerd rage, get some air, do the "holiday thing" and see what happens as the people at Bioware do their jobs and fix what they can on their end.


I have to agree. That why I am still not playing it the game is FUBAR at the moment. See the problem with the DLC has alot to do with the company as a whole. All money generated by any company is split up into dvisions and spent. I seriously think they should spend more time and resources Fixing this issue with DAO then worrying about content. The Approach to The Other games is my own way of Boycotting them untill they fix the Issue with DAO. I have done multiple tests and hardware swaps and its the same thing. So What does that say ? I am not going to say it's everyone that has these issue due to the game but, the reality is this should be working as advertised. I did not spend money to scroll through thread of workarounds trying to get this game to work. So its over a month since release and sit here patiently and yet to see a patch on this issue. Keep in mind Bioware has already acknowledged these issues on an old thread. Posted Image


I'm aware of the thread, but as I recall it was one of the PR or QA people who posted and not one of the back-end programmers.  I stand by my statements based on the fact that as the old saying goes, "Calling a tail a leg does not make it so."


Thats fine but, I stand by my what you called a "Silly Approach" to the issue with the game. Like I said Bioware is not seeing a Dime of my cash untill they fix DOA. I am not talking about little bugs either.

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This post has given me a idea. I will buy a console and my problems should all but disappear, no?

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Pinkleaf wrote...

This post has given me a idea. I will buy a console and my problems should all but disappear, no?


No, consoles have patches and problems too, now. It's a new thing..haha.
Annd you'll get a bunch of new ones like no mods and such. :P

Modifié par chautemoc, 12 décembre 2009 - 08:48 .


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The reason to use this type of utility was not given one only time in this thread. It's not to correct issues, actually it's something that should be used with any game over there. Intel people may want to look at another one called "Game Booster" that essentially does the same thing that is stopping most processes that does nothing to the gaming experience than consume machine resources and introduce lags.

So, it's not to correct problems, it is to enhance the gaming environment (correcting problems is just a "side effect"). That last, game booster is even easier to setup and will not shutdown the internet by default. All services it stops are restored at the session end just clicking a button, in the former way they are implemented, manual, automatic... whatever.

Edit: Actually AMD fusion does not shutdown the Internet, although it stops most 'protections'... it's supposed a gamer will not be navigating or even have a browser open when playing. It's supposed he trust the sites his game connects enough to allow it.

Modifié par Nosisab_KenKeleh, 12 décembre 2009 - 09:23 .


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I've got the Shale DLC, and when I start up, I must be logged in to load my save games.So having no internet is not an option right now. I think Bioware needs to re-think their copy protection scam, whoops, I mean scheme so people can play without needing internet all the time

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mrmike_1949 wrote...

I've got the Shale DLC, and when I start up, I must be logged in to load my save games.So having no internet is not an option right now. I think Bioware needs to re-think their copy protection scam, whoops, I mean scheme so people can play without needing internet all the time


First I want to thanks -zippy- for the hint, for me AMD fusion is better yet than Game Booster (although more agressive), it's just lightning faster now.

it does not shutdown Internet, I tested it at that exact moment replying you, mrmike. I could login, logout, login again in the Bioware site without problems. Of course the A/V software is shutdown but even that is configurable... it's I do not want A/V software running in the background while gaming, I know I have no known virus because I do scan the system at least twice a week, I do not do it actively while playing.

Well, it's just a hint. The little program does wonder for your gaming environment but no one is forced to use it. Once the game session is over you just need to stop it and everything returns to the exact way it was before.

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mrmike_1949 wrote...

I've got the Shale DLC, and when I start up, I must be logged in to load my save games.So having no internet is not an option right now. I think Bioware needs to re-think their copy protection scam, whoops, I mean scheme so people can play without needing internet all the time


You don't actually need to be online for it, it's just a DLC bug. Keep trying to resume your game and it will work, online or offline.

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It's not only AMD problem, my sis has Intel CPU and her loading times goes to 5-6 min.



Anyways, @ Zippi, did you experienced PC slow downs when rebooting ? I read the other topic and i posted there, it took my PC to reboot 3-4 min longer than normally, each time i though it was just freezing on reboot. Any solution for that ?

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My wife just tested this for quite a few hours and this is a valid 'fix'. I'm sigging it. Rather surprised how ightning fast evreything is. Even my framerate has increased, no more loot lag, or long loading times.



Zippy, you're a legend!

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Yeah, I got exactly the same problem like Dimarcus has. The program works great for my game, but it takes forever when I rebooted my computer. And when I uninstalled the program, rebooting works just fine...



Any help would be appreciated...




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^ I don't recommend you 2 make ur new profile on the utility the DEFAULT profile actually. I haven't, only start the profile when about to load up DA



As for other problems you may want to play around with the settings and some programs may be unsafe to shutdown for stability's sake etc.

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Thanks to Nosisab_KenKeleh and chautemoc, I guess I'll give Fusion a try and see how it goes.



Also thanks to Zippi for the work-around



Mike K

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gmahadhika91

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Thx for reply @OneBadAssMother. I'll try that.

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gmahadhika91 wrote...

Yeah, I got exactly the same problem like Dimarcus has. The program works great for my game, but it takes forever when I rebooted my computer. And when I uninstalled the program, rebooting works just fine...

Any help would be appreciated...


Remember to only have the AMD fusion profile active while playing. Click "run profile" in AMD fusion when you are going to start the game. When done playing, click "stop profile" in AMD fusion. Se opening post for details.

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xb360 wrote...

Your Welcome To Those That This Worked For!


Yes, you were the one that discovered the software. Thank you!

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gmahadhika91

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@-Zippi-



Yeah I've stopped my profile when I'm not playing and/or wanted to shutdown my computer. I even unchecked the "make this my default profile", yet the problem persist...

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That worked for my system. Thanks for posting this. :)

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Pinkleaf wrote...

This post has given me a idea. I will buy a console and my problems should all but disappear, no?


Probably. But I think everyone agrees that the gameplay is much funnier in the PC-version of Dragon Age.

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Can someone solve my problem please...? :(

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OneBadAssMother

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Make sure 'run on startup' is not checked, and ALWAYS stop the profile before you shutdown/restart.

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program will not work for me since i have an nvidia nforce 980a chipset with an amd cpu.



Also keep in mind that the program being mentioned is for Complete AMD systems. So if you built a custom system and install that you may have issues and bad side effects from using it.


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I'm not entirely certain that this will help me. The issu eI have is that my the game will CTD when I am trying to load at some times and not at others. When it does load, I am able to play for hours without any problems at some times and then it will CTD after only a few minutes other times. It is not a consistent crash I am getting nor long load times.



System Info as follows:



OS Name Micrsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 5.12600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

OS Manufacurer Microsoft Corporation

System Nae T3H-883A08B16B5

System Mnufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD

System odel MS-7388

SystemType X86-based PC

Procesor x86 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3 AuthenticAMD ~2100 Mhz

BIOSVersion/Date American Megatrends Inc. V1.2, 12/24/2007

SMBOS Version 2.5

Widows Directory E:\\WINDOWS

Sstem Directory E:\\WINDOWS\\system32

oot Device \\Device\\HarddiskVolume2 Locale United States

Hardware Abstraction Layer Version= "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"

User Name T3H-883A08B16B5\\T3h G-4n

Time Zone Central Standard Tim

Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 M

Available Physical Memory 21.96 MB

Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB

Available Virtual Memory1.96 GB

Page File Space 2.40 GB

Page File E:\\pagfile.sys



Any help would be greatly appreciated