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[Obeded the 2nd]

Just something I was wondering about the endings.
Destroy is the worst long-term choice even the catalyst says this, in case you missed it he said that the chaos will come back in about 50,000 years.

Problem is the game shows good guys and bad guys.
The bad guys are the illsive man and so on.
The good guys are anderson and hackett.
Hackett at one point says " dead Reapers is how we win this."
This is perhaps proof that the game is foreshadowing that you should destroy the reapers.
However one persons opinion is important but what really gets me is when anderson says "Bull****, they destroy us or we destroy them"
This is huge as this is the very last moment before you pick an option, at the very last minute a good guy is telling you to destroy them.

I know this may have been brought up but I find this very intresting for the good guys to pick something that is actually an option that will kill all organic life.
In case you didn't know foreshadowing is when something futher along in the story is hinted at and we all respect Hackett and Anderson and they are telling us to destroy the Reapers.

The argument against this may be that they didn't know that destroy would be as bad as this, however that is easily shutdown when we take this as an actual story and reliase that Bioware may be showing that Destory is the best option.

Thing is  Bioware knew about the ending when they made all these scenes so I believe we are being shown that destroy is the way to go.
BTW I really like the ending and feel this adds to a much harder choice when making the ending choice.

[What a Succulent Ass]

even the catalyst says this

O WORD, HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS BEFORE SO GLAD I HAVE THIS MASS MURDERING PSYCHOPATH TO DIRECT ME.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 28 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[Reorte]

Who cares what the Catalyst says? It provides no evidence to support its far-fetched claim.

[MisterJB]

Yes it is. People are just very willing to completely disregard what the Catalyst warns us about. It's short-sigthed.

[What a Succulent Ass]

MisterJB wrote...

Yes it is. People are just very willing to completely disregard what the Catalyst warns us about. It's short-sigthed.

The world will implode tomorrow.

You're short-sighted not to believe me.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 28 mai 2012 - 06:43 .

[Navasha]

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Random Jerkface wrote...

even the catalyst says this

O WORD, HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS BEFORE SO GLAD I HAVE THIS MASS MURDERING PSYCHOPATH TO DIRECT ME.

He has actually saved organic live though.

[Reorte]

MisterJB wrote...

Yes it is. People are just very willing to completely disregard what the Catalyst warns us about. It's short-sigthed.

Send me a million pounds otherwise the world will end.

I might be talking nonsense but it's short-sighted to disregard me.

[Baa Baa]

The Catalyst is a child. Why the hell should you listen to him? Plus it's a real dick move to meet someone in the form of a dead child to sway their opinion.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.

No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.

[Lookout1390]

But destroy isn't the worst ending.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.

[citation needed]

[ArchDuck]

Quickly follow the cult leader! To the Kool-aid!

[MisterJB]

Random Jerkface wrote...
The world will implode tomorrow.

You're short-sighted not to believe me.

You're not an AI that has observed and manipulated the races of the galaxy for billions of years.
As far as I know, at least.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Baa Baa wrote...

The Catalyst is a child. Why the hell should you listen to him? Plus it's a real dick move to meet someone in the form of a dead child to sway their opinion.

You know he's an AI and shepard is just turning him into a Farmiliar charcter, just like in the geth AI mission.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Lookout1390 wrote...

But destroy isn't the worst ending.

Worst long-term.

[Baa Baa]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.

No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.

If we take everything the Catalyst says at face value. Which doesn't really make sense for me since I made Peace between Quarians+Geth and the Geth never had any intentions of wiping out all the Quarians. They actually began to feel sympathetic towards them. So **** the Starchild he can go jump off a bridge along with his Genocidal friends.

[Vox Draco]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
He has actually saved organic live though.

I...must have missed this...was that a seperate DLC?

Oh, and of course Destroy is the only option where the Reapers are surely gone. What happens then, we'll see. If the catalyst is right, maybe his laugh is on us...50.000.000.000 years later or so...you never know, "life is like a box of chocolates"

[ArchDuck]

Anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-aid is short sighted and will doom all life in 1667 generations.

[justafan]

The catalyst makes a prediction. We know he can be wrong, as his supposed final solution to the chaos problem has already failed. Hence, we either take our chances in the future with synthetics, who through the Geth have proven they can be allies and peace is possible, or rely on the reapers for a solution, and from experience we know they are bad news bears.

I say we take our chances.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Baa Baa wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.

No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.

If we take everything the Catalyst says at face value. Which doesn't really make sense for me since I made Peace between Quarians+Geth and the Geth never had any intentions of wiping out all the Quarians. They actually began to feel sympathetic towards them. So **** the Starchild he can go jump off a bridge along with his Genocidal friends.

There is no reason not to believe him.

[silentassassin264]

Reorte wrote...

Who cares what the Catalyst says? It provides no evidence to support its far-fetched claim.

Except Javik also tells you that they had their versions of the same events happen in his cycle.  You know at least that the events happened in two consecutive cycles.

[Obeded the 2nd]

justafan wrote...

The catalyst makes a prediction. We know he can be wrong, as his supposed final solution to the chaos problem has already failed. Hence, we either take our chances in the future with synthetics, who through the Geth have proven they can be allies and peace is possible, or rely on the reapers for a solution, and from experience we know they are bad news bears.

I say we take our chances.

That's probably what shepard might do as well TBH

[Zix13]

MisterJB wrote...

Yes it is. People are just very willing to completely disregard what the Catalyst warns us about. It's short-sigthed.

I think people are rational and realize neither control nor synthesis have better long term implications. The only difference is that in destroy, the cycle of extinction isn't guaranteed. 

[What a Succulent Ass]

MisterJB wrote...

You're not an AI that has observed and manipulated the races of the galaxy for billions of years.

So if I were, you would believe me. Purely on an argument of authority.