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Destroy is the worst long term choice, so why are you told to pick it?


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#276
o Ventus

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Ravenmyste wrote...

wrong  you do remeber that all race under promtheian rule became known as prothy regardles of looks that is why the statues differ from the one on thesssia why they states loked different on ilios regadless of race  they was considereed prothy

 yes you are right i mispelled it sorry


 and yes they are in fact they after they been repurposed like what they did with collectors so thus th keepers are infact the creators of the relays and the citadel and the reapers


Are you stupid, or just REALLY forgetful?

Javik himself tells you specifically that Ilos is not a prothean planet, that they discovered it and set up shop on the ruins of the last civilization to exist there, the Inusannon. The Inusannon existed 100,000 years ago, before the protheans. 

And still, like I said, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE BIT OF CONCRETE PROOF THE KEEPERS ARE INUSANNON. THE KEEPERS ARE OLDER THAN THE INUSANNON. THERE IS NO CONCRETE PROOF THE KEEPERS ARE THE SAME SPECIES THAT MADE THE CITADEL AND REAPERS. THERE ARE THEORIES< BUT THEORIES ARE NOT ABSOLUTE.

Do I make myself clear now?

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.


No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.




Yet we have never seen any proof for that. And who is to say that synthetics won't be built with Control? And don't even get me started on Synthesis...


Fact is, organics will always find ways to annihilate eachother, synthetics or no. 

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Nyoka wrote...

Well tbh you are supposed to believe space kid. There's no in-game reason why you should, but Mac Walters said as much in interviews when he commented that space kid would give you the info you need to know in order to make your choice, and that a lot of "investigate" stuff was cut, so he is basically an infodump character.

links? I've been looking for something were the writers talk about the star child.  I haven't been able to find any thing like that.

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Leafs43

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Any choice that allows the reapers to live is the worst choice in the long term.

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Nyoka wrote...

Well tbh you are supposed to believe space kid. There's no in-game reason why you should, but Mac Walters said as much in interviews when he commented that space kid would give you the info you need to know in order to make your choice, and that a lot of "investigate" stuff was cut, so he is basically an infodump character.


I understand that BioWare wrote it so that we would have no choice, but they are, quite frankly, idiots.

In reality, why would you believe something you have never even met that introduces itself as the master of the genocidal race of alien machines that is even now laying waste to multiple advanced civilizations and will utterly wipe them out down to the very last individuals and has done this to unkown multitudes of advanced civilizations in the past without pity or remorse? Further when it tells you why it is having its technological toys do this against all evidence to the contrary (peace between Quarians/Geth, EDI, continued existence of organic life in defiance of their ever having been a tech singularity), it offers no proof beyond its word.

So, why would you believe it? It's your enemy and offers you no proof. Seriously, if BioWare couldn't think of this as it was writing its endings, they were stupid beyond belief. Image IPB

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Hey knuckleheads.............

Listen to this....

The inclusion of the Star Gazer scene?

THAT SCENE?

Ya, well.

It's takes place in the future, ten thousand years to be exact.

And it happens for all the endings.

Problem, Synthesis people?

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.


No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.



StarBrat ? That you ?

#283
Uncle Jo

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MisterJB wrote...

You're not an AI that has observed and manipulated the races of the galaxy for billions of years.
As far as I know, at least.


"You're not a genocidal troll that mass murdered,  enslaved, tortured, enslaved, forced genetic experiments  and indoctrinated  the races of the galaxy for billions of years."
As far as I know, at least.

Fixed.

#284
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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Navasha wrote...

You start your argument with a fallacy. Destroy isn't the worst long-term choice. The reapers are dead and the galaxy is free to choose its own path for the first time in its history. Sounds like a pretty good long term choice to me.


No because organics in the future will create synthetics destroying all organic life instead of just the advanced ones, which is worse than the reaper cycle.


I'd like to see you prove that the synthetics will destroy all organic life in the future after the destroy option , fact it has never happened! The starchild told you it would as part of it's genocide of trillions upon how many cycles of organics the vent boy has  killed . You take it's word as truth , .... really ...

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GreenDragon37

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Shallyah wrote...

The Catalyst is wrong, that's all there's to it.

The Catalyst thinks he is right because some billion of years ago synthetics wiped out organics (or were about to) and someone created it and in turn it created the Reapers to guard the Galaxy from ever happening again.

Forever more, the Reapers simply harvested without asking why, before what happened once could happen again, without giving anyone the opportunity to try again and do it better, to do what their cold programs and lines of code told them to do.

My ending is Destroy because I believe asari, turians, salarians, humans and everyone else can do better.

If you have no faith, if you believe the Catalyst, if you rather admit the Reapers are right and organics deserve to live eternally chained, pick Control.

If you are a coward and do not think organics could create a thriving future for the Galaxy and prefer to turn everyone into half-synthetics, sacrificing everyone's own identity out of fear, pick Synthesis.

The ones that have the balls, that believe in what we are and are proud of it will pick Destroy. You really aren't going to change anyone's opinions, because it is simply a matter of faith. You are afraid of the warnings of the catalyst, we chose to not pay heed and prove we are better.

In my Galaxy, the Geth upload themselves into the suits of quarians to help them improve their immune systems, and I encouraged a friend to have a romantic relationship with an AI. The Catalyst tells me peace between synthetics and organics is not possible, and I give him my middle finger and send him to Hell.

And that's really all there's to it till we see EC DLC, in which to be honest, what we're going to see is that Destroy is even better than what it already seems.


This. ****ing this. *stands up and claps* :crying:

I chose Destroy because I had the balls to say "**** you " to the Catalyst, as meager as it was. We (Organics and Synthetics) will make our own destiny, and we'll do it on our own terms, not the Reapers'. 

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 30 mai 2012 - 07:10 .