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[DevilBeast]

GenericEnemy wrote...

Also: "But Liara, I thought asari needed other species to reproduce!"

Yeah, I facepalmed over that one too.

[Prism]

I'm trying to understand here. So basically "I... don't know" is the worst line because it's the last? IT ISN'T.

Modifié par Prismvg, 28 mai 2012 - 09:56 .

[silentassassin264]

Sauruz wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Why would saying TIM was right be a bad line? Did you all just not like that the Reapers could be controlled after the whole game was spent opposing that idea?

Because it's written terribly?
In many cases, Shepard just convinced TIM that controlling the Reapers is a bad idea for several reasons. Making Shepard go "So the Illusive man was right after all" five minutes after TIM killed himself because of what Shepard said makes Shepard look like an idiot. It'd be like if you talked Saren into suicide only to turn every living being into a cyborg afterwards to please the Reapers - wait, that can actually happen.
It'd be fine if you had the option to say that if you wanted to. Forcing every Shep to say that borders on character assassination.

The way I saw, you weren't trying to talk TIM down in the final confrontation because controlling the Reapers was a bad idea, moreso because he was indoctrinated and that ship had already sailed.  Mr. Illusive wasn't trying to control the reapers in the end, he was trying to help them win because his mind was gone.  You were just trying to Shepard Indoctrinate him to see your point of view before you shoot him/convince him to shoot himself.  Control was never off the table.  Mr. Illusive just couldn't control them because he was indoctrinated.

It isn't character assassination because because as long as the blue option is available the Illusive Man's plan was possible and he was right.  If you don't accept that then you are wrong.  It really is that black and white.

And as for Saren, Saren wasn't trying to become cyborgs to appease the reapers, he was voluntarily going to become a husk slave so he would still technically have his life.  Saren was not fighting for the green explosion ending, he was fighting to become a collector.

[What a Succulent Ass]

And how could we exclude a classic:

"The Citadel? The fight's here!"

[Grimwick]

Zix13 wrote...

"We fight or we die"
"I.... Don't know"
"So TIM was right all along"
andd pretty much everything Shep said in the Sovereign dialogue

This many times.

Also the ON THE DOUBLE MISTER, the "I thought Asari needed other species to reproduce" (facepalm) and "the protheans didn't go extinct! They were just working for the reapers all along!".

[Bad King]

"I won't let fear compromise who I am."

Modifié par Bad King, 28 mai 2012 - 09:59 .

[ZeroSum7]

I'll dance next to you. If you wanna think we're dancing together, go ahead.

[Jonata]

ZeroSum7 wrote...

I'll dance next to you. If you wanna think we're dancing together, go ahead.

I think that qualifies amongst the best lines.

[Reaper27]

"How can you and me have a relationship? We're not even the same species"

"Stealing from the dead. That's pretty low" (Before Shepard proceeds to loot credits from every house in the plague district)

"Who said anything about love? I'm just trying to get you into bed"

Modifié par Reaper27, 28 mai 2012 - 10:04 .

[Demoiselle]

Asari don't have schools for biotics?

[Applepie_Svk]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Are you serious ?
Each species have some crap ...

Not really comparable. Even if it were, the asari outcrapped everyone else's crap. That being said, the asari as a species cannot be blamed, as only a very small handful of matriarchs even knew about the thing (the protheans behaved idiotically anyway, since they included a contingency that could only be activated by a live prothean).

That was what I want to say, but matriarchs were supposed to be most inteligent and powerful asari in galaxy and if let´s say last 10-20 generations of Matriarchs had a problem with accesing to prothean´s intel. Most dumbest thing about whole beacon is that the Protheans had VI on Ilos which could translate language just from few comm around Ilos to know perfectly our language.
The next crap was that the Protheans which invade to Asari´s ancient history - with genetic research and messing with their mythology and guiding them don´t even put to that VI ancient asari dialect which could help matriarchs to understand their warnings and technology. Since 50 thousand years ago it is only 50 generations of Asari not like in human life span where you get from ancient Egypt to begining of Dark Age centurie with luck...

[Applepie_Svk]

One of the dumbest moments in my playthrought was when Sheppard secure peace betwen Quarians and Geth and did that stupid smile ... it was like a yeaaah balls of steel....Or yeah they have also chocolate ice cream ...

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 28 mai 2012 - 10:14 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

"I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the Citadel"

Only because you could do it to multiple stores on the Citadel.

[Edolix]

"Shepard!? You're...alive!?"
(monotone) "Cerberus brought me back, Tali. In return they want me to investigate attacks on human colonies."

Is THAT all he can say after two years?

[Grimwick]

Edolix wrote...

"Shepard!? You're...alive!?"
(monotone) "Cerberus brought me back, Tali. In return they want me to investigate attacks on human colonies."

Is THAT all he can say after two years?

Yup. I cringed at pretty much all of the reunions - Shepard seems so oblivious to the fact he was dead for two years.

None of them were done well at all with the exception of Garrus, and even that went past pretty quickly.

[Joe Del Toro]

Edolix wrote...

"Shepard!? You're...alive!?"
(monotone) "Cerberus brought me back, Tali. In return they want me to investigate attacks on human colonies."

Is THAT all he can say after two years?

He should have greeted every character the same way.

"TALIIIIIIIIIIIII!"

"GARRUUUUUUUUSSSSS!"

"LIAAAARAAAAA!"

"WRREEEEEEEX!"

[Jadebaby]

Edolix wrote...

"Shepard!? You're...alive!?"
(monotone) "Cerberus brought me back, Tali. In return they want me to investigate attacks on human colonies."

Is THAT all he can say after two years?

Jennifer Hale did that part better. It's still cool that you can bring up the geth data you found for her from ME1 though.

[Pottumuusi]

Steve was pretty bad.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Apathy1989 wrote...

I also hate alot of his dialogue with Tali in ME3. So often tali says things like "I love you". All Shepard says is "I know". 

No, he says "Keelah se'lai", which is entirely different.

Seboist wrote...

The ones where Shepard said the genophage was akin to the first contact war.

This. Some people seem to think that ME1 didn't have its fair share of weak moments, but it certainly did.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 28 mai 2012 - 10:27 .

[GenericEnemy]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but every word that comes out of Shepard's mouth in the ME3 Ashley romance makes me cringe.

[Illusive]

Ash/Kaidan, it's been too long. How have you been?

[M Hedonist]

silentassassin264 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Why would saying TIM was right be a bad line? Did you all just not like that the Reapers could be controlled after the whole game was spent opposing that idea?

Because it's written terribly?
In many cases, Shepard just convinced TIM that controlling the Reapers is a bad idea for several reasons. Making Shepard go "So the Illusive man was right after all" five minutes after TIM killed himself because of what Shepard said makes Shepard look like an idiot. It'd be like if you talked Saren into suicide only to turn every living being into a cyborg afterwards to please the Reapers - wait, that can actually happen.
It'd be fine if you had the option to say that if you wanted to. Forcing every Shep to say that borders on character assassination.

The way I saw, you weren't trying to talk TIM down in the final confrontation because controlling the Reapers was a bad idea, moreso because he was indoctrinated and that ship had already sailed.  Mr. Illusive wasn't trying to control the reapers in the end, he was trying to help them win because his mind was gone.  You were just trying to Shepard Indoctrinate him to see your point of view before you shoot him/convince him to shoot himself.  Control was never off the table.  Mr. Illusive just couldn't control them because he was indoctrinated.

It isn't character assassination because because as long as the blue option is available the Illusive Man's plan was possible and he was right.  If you don't accept that then you are wrong.  It really is that black and white.

And as for Saren, Saren wasn't trying to become cyborgs to appease the reapers, he was voluntarily going to become a husk slave so he would still technically have his life.  Saren was not fighting for the green explosion ending, he was fighting to become a collector.

"So, TIM was right after all..."
"Nope, he was indoctrinated by those Reapers. But you can do it, maybe. Would this face lie to you?"
The whole Catalyst dialogue is idiotic. Within the scene itself, we are given no reason to believe the Reaper king anymore than TIM has reason to believe the Reapers who indoctrinated him. Both Shepard and TIM are made to believe that controlling the Reapers is possible by a Reaper or something that works closely together with the Reapers.

[WyntrKat]

GenericEnemy wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but every word that comes out of Shepard's mouth in the ME3 Ashley romance makes me cringe.

I feel pretty much the same about the Kaidan romance.

[Kloreep]

Why the hate for the "Illusive Man was right?" line. Like MisterJB says, it's about could, not should. IIRC in that context Shepard was merely expressing wonderment that TIM's goal was achievable after all - not the same as lauding it. That was my interpretation, anyway.

Random Jerkface wrote...

3 "We fight or we die! That's the plan!"
4 "You're just a machine, and machines can be broken!"
...
6 - Any time Shepard suggests "getting in close."

Yeah, those are up there. And are pretty much the model for a lot of bad Shepard lines: whenever the bravado gets cranked up to eleven Shepard starts derping all over the place.

Bad King wrote...

"I won't let fear compromise who I am."

Having just dissed bravado, I have to say I actually liked that line. Moreso in a vacuum, though - I'd agree it wasn't the right context. You won't let fear compromise you, so you're going to let fear dictate that you blow up a base and its unknown contents?

Kings19 wrote...

"It seems pretty much the same to me." -
when talking to Wrex in ME1 and comparing the genophage to the
Turian-Human war.

Yeah, that was a facepalm... c'mon Shepard, Avina outlined for you why it's different just an hour ago.

Jonata wrote...

ZeroSum7 wrote...

I'll dance next to you. If you wanna think we're dancing together, go ahead.

I think that qualifies amongst the best lines.

I'm with Jonata on this one.

[ReXspec]

-Draikin- wrote...

"I.... don't know"