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#226
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Orange Sanguine wrote...

varteral6162 wrote...

The 2 minutes may be a problem for people who fall through the floor in FB Reactor or get stuck in mid-air due to the levitating vanguard bug and other bugs that render you immobile.


check the thread for the bug fixes, thoise two have been adressed and fixed as well. not defending this ridiculously silly solution to the leecher problem (check my earlier post for a suggestion on how to do it RIGHT.


They fixed the  thing  just fine. Don't argue. I  yell for  lot of things in this game but here they just did  FINE.

You cheat? you leech?  = no credit no xp  you  work  your  char  like  everyone.

You play  from work and  have to hide from boss?= you are not paid for  playing multiplayer  unless you are a Bioware   multiplayer-member staff.  And even then I doubt your private time is  allowed while   you are supposed to work....

You don't care about others and afk   for   phone/porn/potty/smoke/all in same time? = people aren't   npc's at  your disposal and  they don't care either about you.

And  they have been  nice  enought to put no delay for return in a game as soon  you are done with your afk reason.

Simple clear and neat. Nothing to change there. 

 

Modifié par Saodade, 29 mai 2012 - 12:11 .


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Awesome news. Finally, I won't have to leave a game because some dude didn't bother to do anything for four waves.

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Saodade wrote...
You cheat? you leech?  = no credit no xp  you  work  your  char  like  everyone.
 

Except that you can still super duper easily leech.
All this piece of crap "solution" does is punish people who need to take a short pause for what ever(and believe me there are about million thinks more important then this game that only take 2-4 minutes) and have time to circumvent the afk detection.
Also are honestly trying to claim that the guy with the higher score then the rest of the team combined is leaching just becouse he has to do somethink else for 2 minutes and 1 second.

Modifié par Torguemada, 29 mai 2012 - 12:31 .


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Torguemada wrote...

Saodade wrote...
You cheat? you leech?  = no credit no xp  you  work  your  char  like  everyone.
 

Except that you can still super duper easily leech.
All this piece of crap "solution" does is punish people who need to take a short pause for what ever(and believe me there are about million thinks more important then this game that only take 2-4 minutes) and have time to circumvent the afk detection.
Also are honestly trying to claim that the guy with the higher score then the rest of the team combined is leaching just becouse he has to do somethink else for 2 minutes and 1 second.


100% agree with this post!  

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Tal_Elmar wrote...

wouldn't smth like 5 minutes be more fair?


This.

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Torguemada wrote...

Saodade wrote...
You cheat? you leech?  = no credit no xp  you  work  your  char  like  everyone.
 

Except that you can still super duper easily leech.
All this piece of crap "solution" does is punish people who need to take a short pause for what ever(and believe me there are about million thinks more important then this game that only take 2-4 minutes) and have time to circumvent the afk detection.
Also are honestly trying to claim that the guy with the higher score then the rest of the team combined is leaching just becouse he has to do somethink else for 2 minutes and 1 second.


Also this.

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a MUCH awaited feature. Thanks guys, but i can see problems with the auto-kick feature, rather than implementing an in-game manual kick system, which can also be exploited <_<

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Glad to see this new development, some cheaters will always find ways around it, but hopefully it will deter most of them. Nice touch with private matches, is it possible though to start a public game then switch it to private after 3 people have joined?

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Looks good to me but it could work even better if attached with the need to score 50 points (one assist basically).

As for the time itself, I think 2 minutes is a good number. With 5 minutes you could always earn wave 3 and expect team to die on wave 4.

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Rubber bands laugh at this update.
Also does the timer factor in time I'm dead? If I die early in a wave I don't want to be booted cause I didn't rotate the camera around my team member.

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ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Glad to see this new development, some cheaters will always find ways around it, but hopefully it will deter most of them. Nice touch with private matches, is it possible though to start a public game then switch it to private after 3 people have joined?

Yeah you just discovered another loop hole. Cheaters will always find a way and this will only deal with like 5% of them. Most others will be cheap enough to go out and look for alternatives.

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Thomas Abram wrote...

-  Player’s will not be removed from private matches
Thomas Abram


Good to see such high standards of grammar on the forums.

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Mr. Abram,

This may have been asked, but I'm curious how this would work and I haven't seen any other official BW posts.

I play as part of a group, but alot of times, we only have 3 players online. It starts as a private game, but then we open up the last slot to public.

Will someone be kicked from this game? Alot of times we have played together enough that if someone has to take a break we're fine covering, but not sure how this falls if the last slot if public.

Thanks.

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This system is like a chain lock on your bicycle. It will deter casual robbers, but not a solution to somebody determined. A side effect is that some honest people will be penalized because of some things that come up.

We will see how it goes. It actually might improve gameplay because it will replace real afk players with somebody that will help.

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What if you have a hacking objective and you're the only one hacking while 3 people distract the enemy on the other side of the hack. What if I have no enemies in the hack zone and all I have to do is stand there doing nothing? Will I be kicked for doing the objective? 

It should've been 4 minutes AND you have to score a set amount of points in those 4 minutes.

Modifié par Air Quotes, 29 mai 2012 - 01:46 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

What if you have a hacking objective and you're the only one hacking while 3 people distract the enemy on the other side of the hack. What if I have no enemies in the hack zone and all I have to do is stand there doing nothing? Will I be kicked for doing the objective? 

It should've been 4 minutes AND you have to score a set amount of points in those 4 minutes.


just move around a bit.  I like to move left and right sometimes when nothing is going on.  Or roll around, pretending I'm a dog on a lawn...  :?  I'm starting to suspect I may be a #%@# weirdo though.  

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Air Quotes wrote...

What if you have a hacking objective and you're the only one hacking while 3 people distract the enemy on the other side of the hack. What if I have no enemies in the hack zone and all I have to do is stand there doing nothing? Will I be kicked for doing the objective? 

It should've been 4 minutes AND you have to score a set amount of points in those 4 minutes.


You know, I know and we all know that even if you are in cover you won't stand still without looking, without moving an inch, without stretching the arm, moving the mouse for whole 2 minutes. For that you had to actually move aside from controls or in other word, away from keyboard.

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nhcre8tv1 wrote...

2 Minutes? I really am grateful you put in this timer, but I thought the company name was BioWare, not No-one-is-allowed-to-go-to-the-bathroomWare.

That joke sounded like it was in bad taste. And it was also awful. I feel ashamed, honestly.

I dunno, but it honestly made me lol. Yeah never had too much trouble with afkers (I even just recently learned the term), so I'm definitely more worried about false kicks than anything.The game is bizarrely buggy enough as it is- I've had invincible characters that also can't get ammo(great fun trolling brutes and banshees and getting stabbed and chokeslammed repeated ly though), paraplegic characters with only a waist swivel option, phantom geth on the same map as reapers, and most recently unlimited missles and a 2000-ammo Scorpion, so wouldn't put random kicks as too unfathomable.

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Torguemada wrote...

Saodade wrote...
You cheat? you leech?  = no credit no xp  you  work  your  char  like  everyone.
 

Except that you can still super duper easily leech.
All this piece of crap "solution" does is punish people who need to take a short pause for what ever(and believe me there are about million thinks more important then this game that only take 2-4 minutes) and have time to circumvent the afk detection.
Also are honestly trying to claim that the guy with the higher score then the rest of the team combined is leaching just becouse he has to do somethink else for 2 minutes and 1 second.


If things continually come up for you where you need to leave for 4 minutes out of a 20 minute match, you probably shouldn't be playing to begin with.

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Xhitaa wrote...

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What happens if they die? Does the timer kick in then or is it they are alive?


If you bleed out, switch view mod between your teammates, alerting them if they get flanked or where it's safe to run. You will help your team and that way you are not afk. :)


but does that count as being active to the 2 minute kick timer?

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Thomas Abram wrote...

The multiplayer portion of Mass Effect 3 relies heavily on teamwork. It is designed to require you to communicate and execute as a team or risk failure

Then why is there no text chat on PC?

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Fredvdp wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

The multiplayer portion of Mass Effect 3 relies heavily on teamwork. It is designed to require you to communicate and execute as a team or risk failure

Then why is there no text chat on PC?


The only moment where I think text chat could be possible is at the lobby, texting while playing would get a lot of people killed.

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I see lots of rubber bands being used on controllers along with afk players running into walls.

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zerozen00 wrote...

Good enough for me. Thanks, I am really tired of seeing leechers in every match.

/zen


Same

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Hey! There's some good news! Thanks for listening to the fan base on this one. It's an excellent addition to the game!