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#326
N7 Spectre525

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yodasith wrote...

N7 Spectre525 wrote...

You dont move or shoot for 2 minutes, you get kicked...simple. Why are so many people complaining?
Next patch Bioware needs to hand out diapers for all the babies in their wonderful multi-player community.


part of the problem is the time. 2 min!  lets see door bell rings and is ups.. or mail and you have to sign for it. you get back and bang you lost xp, cridet, and got kicked.

or better still they system time is f up and you get kicked when you only been a min. and yes that happens.

Dont play multiplayer while you're waiting for UPS.

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iAFKinMassEffect3

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Acidrain92 wrote...

erm. does this qualify for consoles as well?


Most likely, that takes longer has it needs to be processed.

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This should kick at one damn minute. Two minutes is a long time!

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Llythir

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This is a terrible idea, it's only going to punish the non-leechers. Leechers and afk'ers always find ways around this sort of thing.

On top of that, I play the hell out of public multiplayer (don't have many friends who bought the game), and I've honestly *NEVER* seen a leecher in any difficulty in any games I've played in. The "worst" thing I saw was someone who'd been playing with us for a while get warped into the floor at a match start and he was stuck there the entire match. He mailed all of us with an explanation and apologized for it. I frequently have high score in my games, and yes occasionally I do need to take a bathroom break. I don't think I need to get booted because I have to run to the bathroom while carrying a team.

Also, votekicking mid-match is a horrible idea. People will use that as a griefing tool and it'd be far worse than any leechers. If anyone has played MAG, you'd know what I'm talking about. People spend half the game votekicking others for no reason at all, and brilliant reasons such as they have the highest score.

I'd rather see this entire thing scrapped.

#330
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at least some nice features to prevent leechers. i've lost track how many times i've found people crouching at some corner at the edge of the map the whole match just farming xp, not only doesnt he/she do nothing also is wasting a player slot. meanwhile mid-game kick if used right will improve many things specialy to get ride of those wich never play as a team, prefering to troll and indirectly get others killed to be alone farming kills (yeah some kids thinks the number of kills matters on this game) xD

@Llythir , people already grief with or without votekick or whatever bioware cames up. thats sadly present on every online game that have any kind of competitive component. bad company 2 is notorious for griefing........

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Thanks. It is very much appreciated.

#332
MissMinaethiel

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It's a good try, but it's going to be effective for all of 5 days before it becomes obsolete =/ Same thing happened with Halo: Reach FF. Ban-hammer swung down when the system sensed no movement through the whole game. Well people started to rig their controllers for constant movements. The system was upped to ban people with no points for the whole game.

Long story short people started scoring maybe 1000 points in the first wave and then AFKing the rest of the game. There is no true solution for this.

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Guess I'll just have to keep a rubber band handy for when I have to pee/let the dog out or whatever that takes just a little bit over 2 mins.

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I like the idea, but... sometimes I have to put down the controller to go do something really quick. I don't want to be kicked out of a match for doing a small task.

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A step in the right direction, good form Bioware, good form.

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I wouldn't mind getting kicked so much if I got at least partial credit for the part of the game I did play. It doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to give me the experience for the match and mayyyyybe the credits (I know there has to be some sort of match tracking that can pinpoint the precise AFK point).

This is all well and good to those who can sit down and devote a good solid 20-30 minutes a match. But I'm the parent of a one-month old baby who seems to know EXACTLY when I want to play. I don't mind leaving the game to take care of him, but it frustrates me to get to wave 9 or 10 and have all that time I put into the match go to waste. I realize that currently, there is a lot of room for AFK'ers to weigh a team down, but there has to be a better compromise for those who played, but weren't able to finish.

While we are at it, getting disconnected at wave 10 or 11 is just as frustrating, if not more so, because even having done everything right, I am still getting squat because my server took a dump.

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Varzin wrote...

A step in the right direction, good form Bioware, good form.

+1

All for better MP experiance.

#338
Necrotron

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Love this new setup.

#339
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Lee80alabama wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

What if you have a hacking objective and you're the only one hacking while 3 people distract the enemy on the other side of the hack. What if I have no enemies in the hack zone and all I have to do is stand there doing nothing? Will I be kicked for doing the objective? 

It should've been 4 minutes AND you have to score a set amount of points in those 4 minutes.


just move around a bit.  I like to move left and right sometimes when nothing is going on.  Or roll around, pretending I'm a dog on a lawn...  :?  I'm starting to suspect I may be a #%@# weirdo though.  



I do this too, though lately with my vorcha.  He sidesteps like a monkey... it's mesmerising to watch.  Back and forth... to and fro..side to side.. over and over and over again..........  Image IPB

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If you quit, you lose. FYI, most of those "person has left" messages are disconnects. The message it gives you is very inaccurate, and blames network issues on quitting. Do you realize that every "disconnect" you have had told the other players you are a quitter?


Just noticed from my rep that I have negative feedback from players saying that I've quit early. I understand what you mean.

Modifié par Christoffee, 31 mai 2012 - 02:12 .


#341
Alaa AlSayed

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It's a good step, but I think this system seriously needs improvement.

Number 1, it should be more than 2 minutes for two reason: players that are actually playing might ocassionally need to do something, so 2 minutes wouldn't be enough. And also, if there are AFK players, it wouldn't make a difference to kick them out after 4 or 5 minutes instead of 2 (the only difference is that the rest of team will have to wait longer for another player to join, if ever one does).

Second, just like others are saying, players use rubber bands to simulate activity. This should be easy to detect because their activity would just be "moving left" for example, so the rules should apply to them.

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Thanks bioware its nice to know our feedback about AFK people has been looked at and dealt with. I definately appreciate that you have taken the time to make an effort to please your gaming community (unlike a lot of other develops)

#343
Pablo Cavalieri

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The kick system kicking automatically is usseles.
Im play 20 minutes ago a gold match...with some infiltrator named " lenard1 (dont play with him), he dont move from the same cover, dont shot, do nothing, but the only thing he do is go in stealth mode again and again. So, I believe this Lame player go away from keys, but he let a macro button doing the job.
So..this type of players ruins the game if we cant kick manually from game.....Im so fkg mad about this idiots.
Sorry for may word..but im really mad about this.:pinched:

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iAFKinMassEffect3

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Pablo Cavalieri wrote...

The kick system kicking automatically is usseles.
Im play 20 minutes ago a gold match...with some infiltrator named " lenard1 (dont play with him), he dont move from the same cover, dont shot, do nothing, but the only thing he do is go in stealth mode again and again. So, I believe this Lame player go away from keys, but he let a macro button doing the job.
So..this type of players ruins the game if we cant kick manually from game.....Im so fkg mad about this idiots.
Sorry for may word..but im really mad about this.:pinched:


I spam decoy every minute, send him a message telling him to do that.

Modifié par iAFKinMassEffect3, 31 mai 2012 - 05:28 .


#345
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Friendly fire would solve some of this.

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 What if I just ate a bunch of Taco Bell and I want to have the teammates in my xbox live party cover me while I go destroy my bathroom? I have to take a turbo turd?

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I have mixed feelings on this. I've got small children - and i play in the early morning when everyone is asleep. Sometimes the boy wakes up and i have to run to attend to him.
Generally, if it's right at extraction, i'll throw myself into cover in the extraction zone before heading to him. though i guess that's a 2 minute limit so i should be fine. sometimes it's in the first wave or two of bronze/silver and i don't feel so bad leaving for a few moments.

But - on a whole - i'm glad. I really wouldn't want to be bogging everybody else down. I always feel bad when i have to duck out mid match. And usually 2 minutes is enough to know if he's going back to sleep, or waking up.

Good patch. Good/bad news for me.

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I was playing earlier and had to take two important phone calls in quick succession, hid in a corner and on the second found I'd been kicked, that's ok though I hadn't contributed to a big chunk of the match.

Sometimes real life gets in the way and your gaming suffers, that's life. It's not a perfect system but it's a start.

#349
Alaa AlSayed

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withneelandi wrote...

I was playing earlier and had to take two important phone calls in quick succession, hid in a corner and on the second found I'd been kicked, that's ok though I hadn't contributed to a big chunk of the match.

Sometimes real life gets in the way and your gaming suffers, that's life. It's not a perfect system but it's a start.

You could've taken the call whilst playing.

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Useless. All that work so someone will have to put a piece of scotch tape on their controller.  You must implement a system where if the majority of players vote to kick another player, the player gets warned that he is going to be kicked in 60 seconds and has that much time to engage (do damage to) an enemy.

Modifié par kw0lf, 31 mai 2012 - 09:04 .