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[ExecutorBG]

Now leechers will just find ways to simulate activity to not get kicked... but people who actually need to take a few minutes leave of absence will get kicked...
So if I get an emergency need to do something in let's say wave 10 after we've completed the objective, I am screwed because I can't just leave the pc, and I have to wait 2 minutes for the extraction and I will get kicked like 10-30 seconds before the game ends... which is useless anyway if you are max level...

IMO it should be a vote kick, not a direct kick.


And please answer us if we are going to get kicked for being dead and doing nothing...

Modifié par ExecutorBG, 29 mai 2012 - 06:01 .

[WaffleCrab]

Torguemada wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...
Not a viable option. in a gold match you can easily see people who have like 15K score and someone with 110K before wave 7. Doesnt mean they are leeching or AFKing.

Yes it pretty much does, atleast a hell a lot more then the guy with the 110K having to be afk for 2min 1s means heas a leecher.
Seriously a retardidly short timer only causes problem to normal players not leecher who can just do somethink every other minute.
Also really nice that someone having a to take a little over 2min break can easily take away half the xp from team, that makes lelev upping fun...............not.

gues you fell for that mind trap, shame on me for leaving it open. Could mean he joined late, or he is simply pure support. for example had a match today where we had a lv 12 salarian engy, and he had no ED or inc. just decoy he did some pretty good decoy placements, but by wave 6's end he had no more than 18k something while the one with most contribution had around 97K. So it may also simply be a case of bad/test build. Or it could simply be a case of lag that makes him miss hes shots etc. etc. there are alot of reasons why people may be in that situation but dont want to just quit, hell if i take equipment to a UUG i aint gonna give up if it lags, but i aint wasting my medigels either if i die because of lag.

[Eur3ka7]

also there should be a chat box or something. since i have no idea who is talking on voice chat or what they are saying.

[asaiasai]

Thank you

[SGsunny]

Nice, at least this makes it more troublesome for the leechers.

[X-Com_Psi_Amp]

 I don't understand

Why would you even want to leech if you're not going to make an effort to play multiplayer? That money can only be used on MP

These sound more like griefers to me. Or these guys scrubs who piggy back onto Gold matches to get more money to play.. Bronze? Why would you even bother. Everything is so fragrile on Bronze. Not to mention that having one less player to play Gold can often mean wipeouts, (thus less credits) especially when playing with strangers.

I've never ran into leechers, so I don't really understand. I guess that's one thing to thank about the PC online community. 

Modifié par X-Com_Psi_Amp, 29 mai 2012 - 06:16 .

[calavash]

great idea but it should be if you get 0 points in 2 minutes (without dying) then boot. I have seen to many people just move a little but not shoot. Also many of you fellow xbox players know analog drift all to well would fool into thinking you are moving when really its a bad controller not in the hands of an afker

[SGsunny]

WaffleCrab wrote...

NobleVigilante wrote...

Edalborez wrote...

Some games can detect when you've been holding one direction for an extended period of time (one JRPG I played punished you with a difficult bonus boss for doing so on the world map); presumably this could account for rubber-band movement.

The way I see it, 2 minutes is often enough that anyone who has to make a token effort on their controller to avoid being kicked for purposefully leeching may as well play the game rather than have to do it 10-20 times a game.

Still think score count would have been a better way for leachers to be kicked .

Not a viable option. in a gold match you can easily see people who have like 15K score and someone with 110K before wave 7. Doesnt mean they are leeching or AFKing.

I think they should have a baseline for the min. scores in each category; just that it'd be troublesome for them to monitor those scores (of leechers).

[Methanoid666]

nhcre8tv1 wrote...

2 Minutes? I really am grateful you put in this timer, but I thought the company name was BioWare, not No-one-is-allowed-to-go-to-the-bathroomWare.

That joke sounded like it was in bad taste. And it was also awful. I feel ashamed, honestly.

sounds fair tbh, can't see too many having an issue missing out on 1 game if they can't wait till match over, and if they can't wait then that's only missing 1 little game unless some gamers have some serious bladder issues.

[Tal_Elmar]

 Thing that irritates me the most is that 'kicked without getting any creds' So say I'm carrying the Gold match, 1st place score etc. Then on wave 10 or 9 something happens in RL (anything, really, even that proverbial urge to pee in the vase). And I'd be kicked without getting my hard-earned creds?  

The text chat hundreds of people want is still not there, instead there'd be a half-baked Anti-AFK feature nobody asked for 

Modifié par Tal_Elmar, 29 mai 2012 - 06:32 .

[Saik0tic]

I'm usually AFK, and my teammates usually take care of it until I return. This AFK system will be a total failure, I assure you many many many people will complain.

[Killateral DMG]

What if I have to do something fast and my team is ok with me going AFK. I think a vote kick after 2 minutes would be better.

[IAMREALITY]

Let's be blunt here. No solution to any problem is ever perfect for everybody. But for the vast majority of players the 2 minute rule is perfectly fine. If Bioware attempted to please everybody nothing would ever get done. And they're not going to solve a problem with the solution being to accommodate the exceptional few, since the vast majority of players would then be adversely affected. It's just life. Sometimes you find yourself in a position in life where you are one of the exceptional few. A real life lesson that goes beyond this board that I can pass on is that during those times all you can do is get over it. Really. It's the whole **** happens thing.

Speaking to the solution directly, 2 minutes seems more than sufficient. For the overwhelming majority of players knowledge as to whether they might or might not need to make a bathroom break in the short term future is easily ascertainable prior to starting a game. Knowing this feature is in place should also make most actually THINK about that circumstance a bit more often while in the lobby. If someone for whatever reason couldn't see it coming and all of a sudden feels the urge. then let's be real; waiting the 15 minutes for the game to end (not 30, since one would expect at LEAST 15 minutes to have gone by after thinking prior to a game whether they needed to go and deciding no, to the point they all of a sudden have to) is not going to give anyone health problems. It just isn't.

Now if someone needs to go so badly that it's an emergency, then that kinda takes priority over finishing a game and getting credits does it not? You had to leave the game. You couldn't wait. The server kicked you. Sucks you had to go that bad, but that's life. Per the advice above (which is real advice), get over it. Life goes on.

The same holds true for the people who brought up parental emergencies. I'm a widowed single father of two young boys, 6 and 8. Sometimes I have to tend to them while I was in the middle of playing but know it can't wait. If that happens in the future, I will likely be kicked. Well know what? GOOD! I hate that I had to leave my team to begin with but my kids were more important. Your kids would be more important. But when that situation arises, and we find ourselves kicked, big friggin deal. Being a parent is all about sacrifice and this is as minor and petty of one as they come. If whatever you needed to leave for was that important, then the LAST thing you should be caring about is if you ended up getting your precious credits while the rest of the team had to battle with 3 because you were attending to family matters. Is that fair to them, that we as parents had to prioritize our children at any given time? No, it's not. And as parents we know that we'd do anything for our kids. Having to deal with a once in a blue moon situation where we need to leave our game to tend to them is such an insignificant sacrifice but one that comes with the territory.

As far as those asking, or even demanding, that bioware answer whether it will kick for being dead, I'm frankly amazed that you even need it to be answered. Here, let me help:

OF COURSE NOT. Huge duh here. Of course they're not going to kick you if you're dead. It's beyond obvious. Seriously, someone using just the slightest bit of critical thinking would be able to answer that for themselves. Does it make any logical sense to you whatsoever that they would kick you under such circumstances? Of course it doesn't. Not a chance in a million years that they would. So Bioware doesn't need to answer you, because the answer is already obvious. I can tell you with 100% certainty that no, you will not be kicked for being dead.

Modifié par IAMREALITY, 29 mai 2012 - 06:46 .

[IAMREALITY]

Saik0tic wrote...

I'm usually AFK...

And you think that's ok?  Why are you usually AFK?  If you're AFK that often maybe you should plan your playing time a bit better.

...and my teammates usually take care of it until I return.

With all due respect, they don't have much of a choice there do they.

This AFK system will be a total failure

I don't think for a second it will be a failure.  The vast majority of people will actually appreciate it, more than likely.

I assure you many many many people will complain.

What you mean is 'many' people on here, or in reality maybe .1% of those playing.

Modifié par IAMREALITY, 29 mai 2012 - 06:43 .

[Bobkyou]

WaffleCrab wrote...

If a team cant handle someone being AFK for 2-3 minutes because of something he didnt see coming happened. Instead would like the person to lose the things they wasted time on, and start again, Then i dont see them as a team, and i extend the same courtesy for the people i play with. i give them leeway, if they dont come back, we simply boot him in the lobby, simple as that.

Alright, you view giving the person up to 5 minutes of afk time as being courteous to the individual, I view leaving the team so a new person can join the match as courteous to the team.  I think for this issue we can just view it as slightly different priorities and be amiable.

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had a bunch of stuff typed here but to heck with it, this is getting more and more off topic.
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Maybe I'm totally wrong, I don't know.  Perhaps some people truly have no warning and must reach a bathroom within 15 minutes of feeling the urge, it just seems really strange to me and sounds like they should talk to a doctor.

I'd be fine with it at 3 minutes, although I think 2 minutes are plenty.  5 minutes just seems like too much given that's 25% of a fast game.  But ultimately between wireless controllers, wireless keyboards/mice, vnc clients on phones, macro capable keyboards, rubber bands on controlers, a stack of quarters on keyboards, autohotkey, and a host of other workarounds this system will only help with the weakest of leechers and do nothing for the competent ones.  I think a better system would be kicking players who don't score X amount of points a round, but keep the values somewhat low like 500. I suppose some players would want it to be a kickvote triggered under those circumstances, although that would take new GUI elements and generally be more effort to implement.  Of course even a system based on 500 points some players could get around with a drone spamming engineer or even just spamming an ability every 3 seconds.

I'm just glad bioware is at least trying to do something about the problem. I half expected them to just ignore it. Hooray for low expectations


I wonder how long until someone starts a topic where people are using stopwatches to see how long it takes them to . . .

[Techo Angel]

2 mins sounds to short

[Cohen le Barbare]

The only good way to deal with AFKers is enabling friendly fire after two minutes on the player. Now that would vent some frustration I can't tell you how many clips I've emptied on AFKers

[TheJester000]

Never knew there was so many leeches playing until now. If you are stepping away from the game for an amount of time and not quitting out, causing the rest of your team to pick up the slack while your character sits in a corner for several rounds just so you can get credits that you didn't play to get and don't deserve, then you are a leech. At this point I'm really hoping for a manual kick so the second someone sits in a back corner and does nothing I can kick them because these mini-leeches don't even deserve the two minutes.

[FreeshootXiggy]

Ehhh this is going to cause too many problems. And all leechers have to do is tap the movement key or button every so often to keep from being booted. More grief now for those who have to step away for something...

[Rodia Driftwood]

Thank you for this, BioWare.


As for the "You won't be kicked from private matches" part. I could just make a private match, invite a couple friends, then make the game public, allow a random to join and then change the game back to private, allowing for any player in the game to go AFK.

From now on, I'm hosting all my games.

[Rodia Driftwood]

FreeshootXiggy wrote...

Ehhh this is going to cause too many problems. And all leechers have to do is tap the movement key or button every so often to keep from being booted. More grief now for those who have to step away for something...

If someone would actually do that just to receive free credits, I will shake my head in dissapointment of humanity.

[WilliamYZFR1]

Saik0tic wrote...

I'm usually AFK, and my teammates usually take care of it until I return. This AFK system will be a total failure, I assure you many many many people will complain.

IMHO If you haven't got the time don't play the game. If your "buddies" cover for you and its a private match then its OK but if its public just don't do it.

BTW It also boils my P*S at how long some people pratt around before being "ready" before the match starts. A timed auto kick for them would have been the icing on the cake.

[FreeshootXiggy]

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

FreeshootXiggy wrote...

Ehhh this is going to cause too many problems. And all leechers have to do is tap the movement key or button every so often to keep from being booted. More grief now for those who have to step away for something...

If someone would actually do that just to receive free credits, I will shake my head in dissapointment of humanity.

Maybe they're why the reapers hate humanity and want to rape them from existence....I don't blame them.

[axewood]

finally. Good job!

[WilliamYZFR1]

Tal_Elmar wrote...

 Thing that irritates me the most is that 'kicked without getting any creds' So say I'm carrying the Gold match, 1st place score etc. Then on wave 10 or 9 something happens in RL (anything, really, even that proverbial urge to pee in the vase). And I'd be kicked without getting my hard-earned creds?  

The text chat hundreds of people want is still not there, instead there'd be a half-baked Anti-AFK feature nobody asked for 

I can assure you I wanted it but I didn't want text chat. 

Perhaps I am in the minority here but I have no problem waiting until a match is finished before emptying my body. I can even open another can of beer whilst actively playing.