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[Leg_lamp]

After thinking about the scenarios, I think the best thing to do is suck it up, and let Alistair go.  Harden him, and make him ruler with Anora.  No man is worth sacrificing yourself to the archdemon over, when there is a Loghain to do this for you.

True, it sucks that Alistair will initially hate your guts and dump you.  But when all is said and done, a new golden age will ushered into Ferelden.  If you truly love Alistair, then let him go so he can be a good king. 

You'll be on the rebound, but you will still be able to do fun stuff like save the world, and maybe do some travelling.  Otherwise Alistair will end up being dead, really really depressed, a worthless drunkard, and/or just another demon-babydaddy.   Do you want this to happen to someone you care for?

Take comfort that while getting your pixelated heart broken does suck, you're still a hottie Gray Warden.  There will be other well-written love interests in the world to make you feel all swoony again (and no, NOT Cullen, because he is just a psycho).

Modifié par Leg_lamp, 10 décembre 2009 - 10:21 .

[Adria Teksuni]

Besides, I think you get the option to be his bit on the side.

[AtreiyaN7]

I had no problems marrying him on my human noble. That aside, I'm perfectly willing to be the mistress if he's king. Of course, he doesn't really want to be king anyway, so I usually just put Anora on the throne when I'm in elf-mode - whee, get to keep him for myself!

[Adria Teksuni]

If there was only some way to keep him alive and NOT have him flip out and abandon you, and yet not have him sleep with Morrigan.



We definitely goin' to go see a healer to make sure I ain't gettin' anything from the man after THAT.

[Thyrza]

Leg_lamp wrote...

Take comfort that while getting your pixelated heart broken does suck, you're still a hottie Gray Warden.  There will be other well-written love interests in the world to make you feel all swoony again (and no, NOT Cullen, because he is just a psycho).

Funny you should mention Cullen.  After feeding Alistair to the archdemon, my elven mage found herself getting nostalgic for the good old days and sweet, shy Cullen.  She thought of revisiting the Mage Tower but there's something messed up about those Templar boys.  He probably couldn't handle getting involved with a mage: the inner conflict might make him do some very bad things.

[Adria Teksuni]

Well, I believe he did mention something about you making him question his vows...



But then he goes all barmy on you and insists all mages must die.

[Recidiva]

Actually there's no happy romance option, I think. Taking Morrigan's deal ends up pretty much betraying everything he stands for.



So the most romantic for me is to leave him at the gates and sacrifice myself.

[Adria Teksuni]

Agreed, there's a "happier" ending, but no "happiest".  Not only does he sleep with EmoGothGirl, he's the father of a possibly Lovecraftian Old One waiting to be born.

"Hello again, Alistair.  I'd like you to meet your son, K'tchu Bl'syu."

Modifié par Adria Teksuni, 10 décembre 2009 - 10:58 .

[Thyrza]

Adria Teksuni wrote...

Well, I believe he did mention something about you making him question his vows...

But then he goes all barmy on you and insists all mages must die.

Now THAT's the kind of love my PC should inspire

And there's the difference between the two Templars.  Alistair wouldn't let Love stand in the way of Duty; Cullen values Love so highly that it drives him barmy.  Duty is the ultimate cold shower.  I think it's much more romantic for the NPC to go mad with love for the PC.

[Recidiva]

Adria Teksuni wrote...

Agreed, there's a "happier" ending, but no "happiest".  Not only does he sleep with EmoGothGirl, he's the father of a possibly Lovecraftian Old One waiting to be born.

"Hello again, Alistair.  I'd like you to meet your son, K'tchu Bl'syu."

Yeah, after taking Morrigan's deal and seeing his face going through it and then thinking for a bit...

Well, if he's mad that you would impugn the memory of Duncan and thinks that being a Grey Warden is a sacred trust, this will probably be future argument fodder.  And I hate angry Alistair face.

I'd rather die young being noble and such.

[Leg_lamp]

Reminder: This post is just some friendly advice to the Lovelorn. If you don't mind Queen Anora crushing those silly elven rioters, or being an adultress, and/or being a step mom to a demon, then you aren't "lovelorn".  I salute you, sisters!

Recidiva:  I have just two words to say to you,  "Romantic, schlomantic"  I argue that while it might be more romantic to hang out in the Fade for eternity being a burning man and stuff, it is still way more fun to ride boats with Sten, pay visits to Orlais, and rebuild things.  I repeat myself, "No man is worth killing yourself over (by sacrificing yourself at the Archdemon)"

Besides, Grey Warden Alistair will get really really depressed if you die, so don't do it, meanies! And Cad King Alistair will get to whoop it up and rule a golden age.  Cad King Alistair is happier than Warden Alistair, so let him live!  And if you die, then Cad King Alistair gets off the hook because you're dead and stuff.  Why should he get to have all the fun?  Show him what he lost, and be "the one who got away".

P.S. To Recidiva: I love your funny posts.  Please don't hate me for romantic schlomanticling you.

P.P.S  Here is my Creepy Cullen impersonation "Hi! I'm so glad I didn't have to cut off your head. I think you are hot.  You can talk to me in the hallway anytime."

Modifié par Leg_lamp, 10 décembre 2009 - 11:55 .

[Herr Uhl]

Leg_lamp wrote...
P.P.S  Here is my Creepy Cullen impersonation "Hi! I'm so glad I didn't have to cut off your head. I think you are hot.  You can talk to me in the hallway anytime."

Smooth. At least he isn't Cammen though.

[Recidiva]

Leg_lamp wrote...

Reminder: This post is just some friendly advice to the Lovelorn. If you don't mind Queen Anora crushing those silly elven rioters, or being an adultress, and/or being a step mom to a demon, then you aren't "lovelorn".  I salute you, sisters!

Recidiva:  I have just two words to say to you,  "Romantic, schlomantic"  I argue that while it might be more romantic to hang out in the Fade for eternity being a burning man and stuff, it is still way more fun to ride boats with Sten, pay visits to Orlais, and rebuild things.  I repeat myself, "No man is worth killing yourself over (by sacrificing yourself at the Archdemon)"

Besides, Grey Warden Alistair will get really really depressed if you die, so don't do it, meanies! And Cad King Alistair will get to whoop it up and rule a golden age.  Why should he get to have all the fun?  Show him what he lost!

P.S. To Recidiva: I love your funny posts.  Please don't hate me for romantic schlomanticling you.

P.P.S  Here is my Creepy Cullen impersonation "Hi! I'm so glad I didn't have to cut off your head. I think you are hot.  You can talk to me in the hallway anytime."

Hah!  No, I don't mind being Romantic Schlomanticed.  My husband's sick of hearing me demand to die before he does, and then take it back because it makes me look like a coward.  "Okay, I'll die first if it's what you really want, but don't expect me to like it!"

But he's not Grey Warden Alistair, he's hardened, excellent king Alistair who I asked to promise NOT to marry Anora and who goes on to rebuild Ferelden in his charming way, inspired by my memory and such.  I get a tomb!  I did my "make me cry" fanfic emo stuff in my Psychic thread.  So in my head it's worked out fine.  Alistair is happy and goes on and has children with his eyes and tells me about them in the Fade after he dies, which will be soon, what with the Grey Warden thing.  Saves me having to save Ferelden and also I stay just as perfect of a memory as a pressed rose.  Awwww.   I suffer from wanting the people I love to be happy.  It's a thing.

There's no possible way in any ending that Anora's being queen.  So say my elven origins.

Mmmm....Cullen.

[Kuravid]

I completely agree with you. Taking Morrigan's offer and either sacrificing yourself or Alistair is just really annoying and depressing.



Also: who the hell would be satisfied with being Alistair's mistress? Don't people understand that your status as mistress means you are, essentially, second to just about everything else? It's not like he's going to get that heir he needs for the throne with you.

[The Angry One]

Heh, Cullen. Alas reciprocating his interest leads to him engaging Loghain mode.

"Ahh! Sound the retreat! Run away run away!"

[Herr Uhl]

Kuravid wrote...
Also: who the hell would be satisfied with being Alistair's mistress? Don't people understand that your status as mistress means you are, essentially, second to just about everything else? It's not like he's going to get that heir he needs for the throne with you.

Why would a mistress be second to everything else? You can't procure a heir from your womb, but he can still care about you.

[Recidiva]

Kuravid wrote...

I completely agree with you. Taking Morrigan's offer and either sacrificing yourself or Alistair is just really annoying and depressing.

Also: who the hell would be satisfied with being Alistair's mistress? Don't people understand that your status as mistress means you are, essentially, second to just about everything else? It's not like he's going to get that heir he needs for the throne with you.

Pft.  The way it plays out he's pretty much the PC's mistress.  Not a problem.  And I became the Chancellor and he pretty much let me do whatever.  Which I did.  A lot.  Not an issue for pragmatic me.

[Kuravid]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Kuravid wrote...
Also: who the hell would be satisfied with being Alistair's mistress? Don't people understand that your status as mistress means you are, essentially, second to just about everything else? It's not like he's going to get that heir he needs for the throne with you.

Why would a mistress be second to everything else? You can't procure a heir from your womb, but he can still care about you.

The fact remains that you can't keep him to yourself. I might just be overly monogamous and irrationally jealous, but I have a lot of problems with letting my significant others sleep around, regardless of whether or not it's to save the world or the throne. I'd rather ride a boat.

[Kuravid]

Recidiva wrote...

Kuravid wrote...

I completely agree with you. Taking Morrigan's offer and either sacrificing yourself or Alistair is just really annoying and depressing.

Also: who the hell would be satisfied with being Alistair's mistress? Don't people understand that your status as mistress means you are, essentially, second to just about everything else? It's not like he's going to get that heir he needs for the throne with you.

Pft.  The way it plays out he's pretty much the PC's mistress.  Not a problem.  And I became the Chancellor and he pretty much let me do whatever.  Which I did.  A lot.  Not an issue for pragmatic me.

I just hate to share. Even for a little while.

[Recidiva]

Kuravid wrote...

The fact remains that you can't keep him to yourself. I might just be overly monogamous and irrationally jealous, but I have a lot of problems with letting my significant others sleep around, regardless of whether or not it's to save the world or the throne. I'd rather ride a boat.

Well, I probably would have just talked him into adopting someone from a royal family that was wiped out.

I'm sure there are plenty of orphans and that would appeal to Alistair for many reasons, and I'd just kill anybody who didn't agree with me.

King and heir are duties.  And they're in the best interest of the nation.  Love is motivation to do all that good stuff.

[Kuravid]

Recidiva wrote...

Well, I probably would have just talked him into adopting someone from a royal family that was wiped out.

I'm sure there are plenty of orphans and that would appeal to Alistair for many reasons, and I'd just kill anybody who didn't agree with me.

King and heir are duties.  And they're in the best interest of the nation.  Love is motivation to do all that good stuff.

Adoption? In that kind of setting, I'd say it would be highly unlikely for a king to adopt some random orphan child who isn't somehow related to him. 

[Recidiva]

Kuravid wrote...

I just hate to share. Even for a little while.

Well, I hated getting Broodmother in my hair, but some things are less difficult to tolerate than others. 

All told, with a death sentence, all that we'd been through, and considering we're going to die young, that does seem a tad petty to get wrapped up in convention.

But then again I chose to die young for many reasons.  Getting to the point of being together means you already made him sleep with Morrigan anyway.

So having an heir surely is less...traumatic.  Technically another heir.

Modifié par Recidiva, 11 décembre 2009 - 12:14 .

[Recidiva]

Kuravid wrote...

Adoption? In that kind of setting, I'd say it would be highly unlikely for a king to adopt some random orphan child who isn't somehow related to him. 

The entire game is highly unlikely.  I don't see how this would be any different.  It also has the benefit of being extremely poetic.

[Kuravid]

Recidiva wrote...

Kuravid wrote...

Adoption? In that kind of setting, I'd say it would be highly unlikely for a king to adopt some random orphan child who isn't somehow related to him. 

The entire game is highly unlikely.  I don't see how this would be any different.  It also has the benefit of being extremely poetic.

But this isn't the 21st century. This is a medieval, small, redneck country (basically). It's not that I think it would go against Alistair's character, I just think that, given how important it is to have some kind of royal blood in the heir in the first place it would be very unlikely for him to be able to get away with adopting an orphan and making that orphan the next king.

[Recidiva]

Kuravid wrote...


But this isn't the 21st century. This is a medieval, small, redneck country (basically). It's not that I think it would go against Alistair's character, I just think that, given how important it is to have some kind of royal blood in the heir in the first place it would be very unlikely for him to be able to get away with adopting an orphan and making that orphan the next king.

I...wiped...out...the...Blight.

You sure you want to tell me I can't do something?  Really?