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Should all Love interests be available to Shepard regardless of gender (poll)


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#76
LeTtotheC

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Hell. Yes. I wanted my fem Shep to get it on with Ashley and Miranda...at the same time. ME3 threesome ftw!

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Muhkida

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Made Nightwing wrote...

@Munkida. It's never mentioned what religion Ash is. She simply wasn't written that way.


I know, that's why I did that question mark.

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poundoffleshaa wrote...

A Sexual preference does not a character make, why would a person attitudes, likes, personality and character change just because they like a different type of tail (unless you suggesting because a character is gay he suddenly needs to become camp) . Other than the flirtatious lines I don't see why any other lines would need to be changed.


Because it would affect what sort of backstory you can and cannot give them? And the amount of detail you give a character affects how much depth they have. The more depth a character has, the more engaging your readers/players are likely to find that character.

How much more interesting was Kaidan because of BAaT? How much more interesting was Zevran because of his backstory where he was willing to do anything and anyone to get close to his targets? Isabela and Aveline are two of the most interesting DA2 characters, but they neither one have to hide their orientations. Isabela is unapologetically bi (thus is workable under BioWare's "free love" policy) and Aveline is unromanceable and so can be unapologetically straight since she only needs to please the demands of the story not the PCs.

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ME NPCs don't need to be bi for them to be equally romanceable. When you make a decision as Shepard the world adjusts to accommodate that decision. In the same way each character could be "undefined" until Shepard does/does not try to initiate a relationship. Then the could "collapse" into bi/straight/gay as appropriate.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

No.

Stop thinking that everyone is Bisexual.

They are not.

It's not a choice to be anything. You are the way you are.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Nope, not everyone in the galaxy is bi, just like how not everyone in the world is straight. The characters should reflect this if they want to make the universe more believable and realistic.

I think Traynor and Cortez being gay and not bi made them more interesting. It was a great scene where BroShep got turned down by Traynor. Her homosexuality added to her character in a very well done and tasteful way.

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LeTtotheC wrote...

Hell. Yes. I wanted my fem Shep to get it on with Ashley and Miranda...at the same time. ME3 threesome ftw!

Mmmm...

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No, hell no.

Obviously do not have anything against ******/bisexual people, but you can't destroy the concept of characters just because a dude would like to play female Shep, but also would like Tali/Ahsley/whatever to be romanceable. You can't have it all, especially not at the cost of the uniqueness and traits of the characters that make Mass Effect so great.

Modifié par Shallyah, 29 mai 2012 - 12:59 .


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I don't see why not since it depends on how well its written. Certain characters definitely wouldn't, like Ashley (because of her faith.......), but i don't see why not.

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No. I don't want everyone to be like Kaiden. Many characters just don't seem to fit being bisexual. Like Tali, Vega, Garrus (even though seriously, I'm heterosexual but I would certainly make my MaleShep date Garrus), Ashley, and... Krogans lol (I imagine Krogans finding homosexuality not masculine enough for them) ... plus your ass would hurt like hell after that....
But Kaiden makes sense, he can fit that role because he's a somewhat quiet character and could go either way.

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Joe Del Toro

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I voted no because...well, being gay/bi doesn't work like that. Simple as.

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**** no. Garrus likes women. Miranda, Ash, Tali, and Jack like men. Keep it as is.

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Baa Baa wrote...

No. I don't want everyone to be like Kaiden. Many characters just don't seem to fit being bisexual. Like Tali, Vega, Garrus (even though seriously, I'm heterosexual but I would certainly make my MaleShep date Garrus), Ashley, and... Krogans lol (I imagine Krogans finding homosexuality not masculine enough for them) ... plus your ass would hurt like hell after that....
But Kaiden makes sense, he can fit that role because he's a somewhat quiet character and could go either way.


You see I honestly don't think it matter either way NPC aren't people they are stories and the sexual oriantation of the story is just a minor part but I do object to type casting character. For example saying that as Kaiden is a quiet character so its alright for him to be bi but Garrus is masculine so he couldn't possibly be bi is really quite judgmental you are assigning sexual preferences specific personality characteristics which are not sexual. 

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no you women won't get MY tali!!!!

they should spend more time expanding the romances, they were not as great as they could have been in me3 (heard Liara was pretty good)

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poundoffleshaa wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

No. I don't want everyone to be like Kaiden. Many characters just don't seem to fit being bisexual. Like Tali, Vega, Garrus (even though seriously, I'm heterosexual but I would certainly make my MaleShep date Garrus), Ashley, and... Krogans lol (I imagine Krogans finding homosexuality not masculine enough for them) ... plus your ass would hurt like hell after that....
But Kaiden makes sense, he can fit that role because he's a somewhat quiet character and could go either way.


You see I honestly don't think it matter either way NPC aren't people they are stories and the sexual oriantation of the story is just a minor part but I do object to type casting character. For example saying that as Kaiden is a quiet character so its alright for him to be bi but Garrus is masculine so he couldn't possibly be bi is really quite judgmental you are assigning sexual preferences specific personality characteristics which are not sexual. 

Kaiden is never really interacting with girls either though. He says it himself if he asks you out as MaleShep. And I'd actually think a Garrus Romance would be ok for MaleShep. I just don't know how they would make it work because it would just seem too forced for some characters. Of course they could write in these romances and make them have some sense but in the games current state I can't imagine the characters I listed being bisexual. Except maybe Tali. But if she would be bisexual I would have to make sure to kill whoever she would date in the suicide mission just to make sure there's no cheating :unsure:

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FlamingBoy wrote...

no you women won't get MY tali!!!!

they should spend more time expanding the romances, they were not as great as they could have been in me3 (heard Liara was pretty good)

This. They definetly should have expanded them. Every now and then I felt as if Shepard and Tali's romance tended to only take place in engineering while Donnelly and the other perverts watched... ehh

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no because it isnt just shepard who has to be bi sexual

what makes you think every charachter has to be? im not saying its bad but think for a second

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Shallyah

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Tali hetero forever.

You have Liara if you really want to hang with someone who will sleep with just about anything that is sapient and alive.

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There are multiple ways to this approach : You can have everyone just plain bi, you can have everyone PC-sexual, or you can have their orientation adjust according to the chosen gender or even dialogue choices of the PC.

I understand the arguments supporting it, as it gives the most people options using as little resources as possible and makes the potential interaction with the characters basically equal for all playstyles. But ultimatley I think a set of diverse, defined sexualities for characters is the better approach.

But really it's not a big deal to me, anyway. The meat of a story is still just as strong and the characters are just as fun and interesting no matter how this is done. I did not care a lick about the sexuallity of the romancable characters in DA2 when the Qunari invasion happened or when Isabela was cracking amusing jokes. I'd rather not it be that way, but there's no point in making a big deal about it, I think.

But devs shouldn't do it simply because fans want them to (which is also how I feel about Kaidan). The DA devs did it completely of their own accord and that was their creative right, but I highly doubt the ME team thinks the same. Unlike the DA team, they had to be pressured into simply including gay romances at all.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 29 mai 2012 - 01:40 .


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N7 ironman

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Bioware should just go ahead and make a dating simulator and get it over with.

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OniTYME wrote...

**** no. Garrus likes women. Miranda, Ash, Tali, and Jack like men. Keep it as is.

Jack: When I was starting out, I ran with this girl Manara and her boyfriend. They knew their way around. I thought they'd help me. Right. They helped me into their bed.

Jack: I've been with lots of people. If you're asking about a boyfriend or a girlfriend, no. It's a waste of time and it never works.



Jack has hopped the fence before...
Just sayin'...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 29 mai 2012 - 01:49 .


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poundoffleshaa

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N7 ironman wrote...

Bioware should just go ahead and make a dating simulator and get it over with.


Lol they would be terrible at a dating sim, I mean where would they fit the shooting mechanics.

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Bisexual:
Kaiden
Kelly
Diana Allers
Liara

Gay:
Steve Cortez
Samantha Traynor

what more do you want?

Modifié par Alanosborn1991, 29 mai 2012 - 01:50 .


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N7 ironman wrote...

Bioware should just go ahead and make a dating simulator and get it over with.

I think I would actually buy a copy of Fleet and Flotilla. :?

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poundoffleshaa

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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

Bisexual:
Kaiden
Kelly
Diana Allers
Liara

Gay:
Steve Cortez
Samantha Traynor

what more do you want?


I want you clothes, your boot and your motorcycle :P

That was a joke.