Like Asari who predominately revolve around sex? Great!Unit-Alpha wrote...
I'm not fine with poorly-written characters
How so?Unit-Alpha wrote...
Um, it's because from a writing standpoint, he is 90% defined by his sexuality
Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 mai 2012 - 06:08 .
Steve is a ship fanatic. you point out a ship on the citadel and he tells you it's name and can tell you when it was built based on how it looks. Also samantha is chess player and somewhat of a hygenic person since she has a toothbrush that makes mass efect fields to destroy plaque and she's in awe of Shepard's personal shower.Unit-Alpha wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
This is not a relationship sim. Seriously.
Let's take another couple games with romances: Witcher 2 and Deus Ex: HR. In neither one of those is there an option at the beginning that says, "Would you like a homosexual romance option instead?" No, because that is pure shoehorning. Cortez/Traynor were characters defined by their sexuality. This is *not* good writing, indicating they were shoehorned in. Kaiden's romance for MaleShep: again, shoehorning.
Both instances cheapened the characters and made them much more flimsy and 2D. This is not good writing. So congratz, you got your homosexual romance option. For people who don't pursue it (vastly the majority) we have to deal with horribly defined and paper-thin characters. That's my problem with them.
Just to be clear, I fully support the rights of the LGBT community in real life.
Um wut?
Cortez and Traynor were NOT defined by being homosexual. Playing as MaleShep the only thing that came out of Traynor's mouth regarding her sexuality was mentioning EDI's voice was attractive for a VI. Cortez is mouring a recently dead spouse. That's rough, really rough. Cortez is mainly vega's buddy and a damn good shuttle pilot, Traynor is a damn fine comm. specialist and finds critical missions and adjusts to being on the front lines. Other than doing their romances their sexualities take a back seat to who they are as a person. Also as someone who came CLOSE to doing Kaidan's Male romance path (was a Liaramnacing PT where I talked to Kaidan first and had to turn him down) it was actually pretty well done. It' much different than him talking to a romance or unromanced Femshep. He knows he's talking to a guy who might not be into him and approaches the reveal of possible feelings as such. It wasn't shoehorned at all.
Tell me characterization of either one of those characters that has to do with them personally, not related to their roles on the Normandy, but not related to their sexuality.
300 years after the Reaper War, everyone is bi!Siansonea II wrote...
This ship has sailed. Pointless topic is pointless. There won't be any more ME games with Shepard.
IsaacShep wrote...
How so?Unit-Alpha wrote...
Um, it's because from a writing standpoint, he is 90% defined by his sexuality
S3Plan wrote...
Yep.
Why deprive the player of more options?
Siansonea II wrote...
This ship has sailed. Pointless topic is pointless. There won't be any more ME games with Shepard.
Han Shot First wrote...
S3Plan wrote...
Yep.
Why deprive the player of more options?
Because real life doesn't work that way.
Characters should have defined personalities and interests, rather than being whatever Shepard wants them to be.
Since this is going downhill anyway...Lenimph wrote...
You say that now... but what would you do in prison...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Steve is a ship fanatic. you point out a ship on the citadel and he tells you it's name and can tell you when it was built based on how it looks. Also samantha is chess player and somewhat of a hygenic person since she has a toothbrush that makes mass efect fields to destroy plaque and she's in awe of Shepard's personal shower.
Don't be silly Mesina, it DEFINES Legion obviously!Mesina2 wrote...
I'm pretty sure that 90% of reasons why I adore Legion is not due to his asexuality.
Blacklash93 wrote...
Since this is going downhill anyway...Lenimph wrote...
You say that now... but what would you do in prison...
Situational sexual behaviors do not mean sexuality has essentially changed. The vast majority of straight people who have homosexual conduct in prison or even identify as gay or bi in prison shed that behavior/identity quickly when released.
jlb524 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
S3Plan wrote...
Yep.
Why deprive the player of more options?
Because real life doesn't work that way.
Characters should have defined personalities and interests, rather than being whatever Shepard wants them to be.
Right, these romances are like real life ones.
Ugly Shepard gettin all the gals...so realistic.
You sir have made me giggle, kudos.mauro2222 wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Steve is a ship fanatic. you point out a ship on the citadel and he tells you it's name and can tell you when it was built based on how it looks. Also samantha is chess player and somewhat of a hygenic person since she has a toothbrush that makes mass efect fields to destroy plaque and she's in awe of Shepard's personal shower.
This makes the endings worse... Traynor's toothbrush isn't going to work anymore
Han Shot First wrote...
Sure, the game doesn't take into account whether custom Sheps look monstrous.
But that is hardly a convincing argument in favor of having every love interest's sexuality change depending on Shepard's gender and interests.
Bioware got it right with ME3: Characters have a defined sexuality and Shepard is unable to change their mind.
Yet necessary for language to be able to convey meaning.Lenimph wrote...
labels are for the weak
Modifié par Blacklash93, 29 mai 2012 - 06:30 .
Yet he's still able to date everyone regardless if his actions are in complete opposite to moral standards of the LIs. That one is still not fixed. Again, the only person to turn Shepard down based on morality (Samara says she doesn't feel anything at all to Renegade Shep) was Samara - who wasn't a LI. Other LIs think it's fine if Sheps kills innocent people in cold blood and will talk how kind and amazing prson SHep is lol... And no one complains about thatHan Shot First wrote...
Bioware got it right with ME3: Characters have a defined sexuality and Shepard is unable to change their mind.
Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 mai 2012 - 06:27 .
jlb524 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
Because real life doesn't work that way.
Characters should have defined personalities and interests, rather than being whatever Shepard wants them to be.
Right, these romances are like real life ones.
On the bright side her toothbrush won't rebel against her and attempt to kill all organic life.mauro2222 wrote...
This makes the endings worse... Traynor's toothbrush isn't going to work anymore
Modifié par Blacklash93, 29 mai 2012 - 06:42 .
Blacklash93 wrote...
On the bright side her toothbrush won't rebel against her and attemt to kill all organic life.mauro2222 wrote...
This makes the endings worse... Traynor's toothbrush isn't going to work anymore
It merges with Shepard's hamster.jlb524 wrote...
If you pick the Synthesis ending, I think her toothbrush becomes sentient.Blacklash93 wrote...
On the bright side her toothbrush won't rebel against her and attemt to kill all organic life.mauro2222 wrote...
This makes the endings worse... Traynor's toothbrush isn't going to work anymore
You should probably know this, then. The EC will add a fourth ending involving Morinth. It's been leaked, actually.bobobo878 wrote...
I don't really care about all the other characters' preferences tbh, the one LI who matters is bi.
Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 29 mai 2012 - 06:47 .
jlb524 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
Sure, the game doesn't take into account whether custom Sheps look monstrous.
But that is hardly a convincing argument in favor of having every love interest's sexuality change depending on Shepard's gender and interests.
Bioware got it right with ME3: Characters have a defined sexuality and Shepard is unable to change their mind.
It's the same type of thing and it's allowed in game already and I don't see complaints about it.
It's called...hypocrisy...the thing most posts in this thread reek of (that and entitlement).
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