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[Taboo]

sparkyo42 wrote...
That might be an option for them but then they will open themseleves up to more complaints about the ME 2 LI's other than Garrus and Tali being second rate.

I trust Weekes far more than Walters. Weekes seems to understand what was important to the players first, not what was important to him first. That's a brave thing to do.

Garrus is my bro though, and I look forward to seeing him again.

Can you imagine the Talimancers if they don't get to see her again?

They think I'M nuts.

I just need Miranda. That's it.

I'm such a softie it's not even funny.

[sparkyo42]

Taboo-XX wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...
That might be an option for them but then they will open themseleves up to more complaints about the ME 2 LI's other than Garrus and Tali being second rate.

I trust Weekes far more than Walters. Weekes seems to understand what was important to the players first, not what was important to him first. That's a brave thing to do.

Garrus is my bro though, and I look forward to seeing him again.

Can you imagine the Talimancers if they don't get to see her again?

They think I'M nuts.

I just need Miranda. That's it.

I'm such a softie it's not even funny.

Oh I trust him more as well, I think he could have been able to control the reaction better than how it went down.

As for the Talimancers, that might even outdo the Ending if it goes wrong.

I've got save's of quite a few LI's but no interest in bring anymore than the one that I played with, I'll look at EC on Youtube and decide if it's worth reinstalling the game, I think I'm using it as a coaster at the moment.

[Russalka]

I thought after the ending people would have liked Bioware to take their time.

[Taboo]

It won't be perfect but I'm more than pleased that it is coming.

A tear formed in my eye when I read the announcement. You have no idea how lucky you are.

[Kunari801]

 

Russalka wrote...

I thought after the ending people would have liked Bioware to take their time.

People are impatient  

Taboo-XX wrote...

It won't be perfect but I'm more than pleased that it is coming.

A tear formed in my eye when I read the announcement. You have no idea how lucky you are.

I hope I'm not setting my sites too high but I think they're doing a epilogue with a funeral or memorial service previously listed VA's.   That'd explain the absence of the other VA's including Meer & Hale.  The other surviving crew will be on screen but not voiced.  

Assuming there is a "LI reunion" at all --please BW please--  it could be just music and cinematic with any VO via off-screen narration. I can see the VS or EDI voice a scene on jungle-world  that shows shuttles coming down to the Normandy wreck site.  Shepard stepping out of the fist shuttle and reuniting with the crew then embarrassing his LI.    VO something like, "After Shepard recovered, she/he worked tirelessly to mount a search & rescue mission.  The Normandy was found within the year.  A holo-cam captured the following shot of Shepard reuniting with his love and quickly became one of the most popular post-war videos on the Extranet."   

I judge our "luck" by what I see in the EC.  The above would work for me and I hope it's not too much to ask. 

Modifié par Kunari801, 29 mai 2012 - 06:46 .

[frylock23]

Kunari801 wrote...

 

Russalka wrote...

I thought after the ending people would have liked Bioware to take their time.

People are impatient  

Taboo-XX wrote...

It won't be perfect but I'm more than pleased that it is coming.

A tear formed in my eye when I read the announcement. You have no idea how lucky you are.

I hope I'm not setting my sites too high but I think they're doing a epilogue with a funeral or memorial service previously listed VA's.   That'd explain the absence of the other VA's including Meer & Hale.  The other surviving crew will be on screen but not voiced.  

Assuming there is a "LI reunion" at all --please BW please--  it could be just music and cinematic with any VO via off-screen narration. I can see the VS or EDI voice a scene on jungle-world  that shows shuttles coming down to the Normandy wreck site.  Shepard stepping out of the fist shuttle and reuniting with the crew then embarrassing his LI.    VO something like, "After Shepard recovered, she/he worked tirelessly to mount a search & rescue mission.  The Normandy was found within the year.  A holo-cam captured the following shot of Shepard reuniting with his love and quickly became one of the most popular post-war videos on the Extranet."   

I judge our "luck" by what I see in the EC.  The above would work for me and I hope it's not too much to ask. 

It's also possible that they've only allowed some VA's to leak while others have been told to remain strictly silent, too.

[Taboo]

frylock23 wrote...
It's also possible that they've only allowed some VA's to leak while others have been told to remain strictly silent, too.

Certain revelations would tell people too much.

LIKE MISS STRAHOVSKI.

[jeff359]

Taboo-XX wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Whether or not it is **** is subjective, but I can certainly tell you they aren't goofing around.

Like they apparently did the first time around, necessitating the EC DLC.

Goofing around isn't the word I'd use...disconnect is something I find more viable here.

They truly, truly believed that they had something good, The Final Hours app sort of makes that clear to me.

The fact they truly believed they had something good is what makes me concerned. But I have some faith

[puppy maclove]

Rather take your time BioWare.... there is no rush.

[Little Princess Peach]

For something that is not going to be a new ending it is starting to become somewhat shady

[Kunari801]

Taboo-XX wrote...

frylock23 wrote...
It's also possible that they've only allowed some VA's to leak while others have been told to remain strictly silent, too.

Certain revelations would tell people too much.

LIKE MISS STRAHOVSKI.

I dont want to put my hopes too high... i dont want another heartache. 

[frylock23]

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

frylock23 wrote...
It's also possible that they've only allowed some VA's to leak while others have been told to remain strictly silent, too.

Certain revelations would tell people too much.

LIKE MISS STRAHOVSKI.

I dont want to put my hopes too high... i dont want another heartache. 

I made the mistake of finishing the current game again. I already got another heartache.

Oh, and look at me. I spend so much time at work b*tching about how people don't know how to use apostrophes, and then I go and misuse one.

Modifié par frylock23, 29 mai 2012 - 07:18 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

If they are really taking several months to make a "clarification" DLC, then I'm kind of assuming that we may be getting a little more than just mere clarification. That's just my optimism talking though.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 29 mai 2012 - 07:23 .

[Kunari801]

frylock23 wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...
I dont want to put my hopes too high... i dont want another heartache. 

I made the mistake of finishing the current game again. I already got another heartache.

Oh, and look at me. I spend so much time at work b*tching about how people don't know how to use apostrophes, and then I go and misuse one.  

Sorry, I was on my mobile at lunch when I wrote that reply and missed correcting the error.  

I'm on my 3rd Shepard and I'm dreading the ending again, I thought I was prepared on my 2nd Shep but I was still heartbroken so I'm thinking of stoping at London FOB on this Shepard.   I still need to play my Liara, Tali, and Miranda LI Shepards.  

[chemiclord]

jeff359 wrote...

The fact they truly believed they had something good is what makes me concerned. But I have some faith

Believe it or not, people make mistakes.  Even the best writers misguage what fans expect or what they'd want.  Sometimes the story the writer is telling isn't the one the audience is experiencing.

It happens.  At that point, the creator has to balance what the audience expects with what he or she wants to say.  It's not as simple as bending over and giving the fans everything they want and to hell with anything else.  That's empty pandering, and can be done by anyone.

[Phydeaux314]

The longer the EC takes to come out, the better, at least in my eyes.

I'm also very interested in what other SP DLC we're going to have.

[Taboo]

chemiclord wrote...

jeff359 wrote...

The fact they truly believed they had something good is what makes me concerned. But I have some faith

Believe it or not, people make mistakes.  Even the best writers misguage what fans expect or what they'd want.  Sometimes the story the writer is telling isn't the one the audience is experiencing.

It happens.  At that point, the creator has to balance what the audience expects with what he or she wants to say.  It's not as simple as bending over and giving the fans everything they want and to hell with anything else.  That's empty pandering, and can be done by anyone.

This. Seriously this.

It's nothing more than a msitake.

[Myrmedus]

If the release is delayed then why complain? That means more content and work is going in to it. People whined that ME3 was probably released too early considering what we got so now they're whining the amendment is not released early enough? Come on, ffs.

[Taboo]

I'm not complaining. It does tend to follow in my wake though.

They won't show until they have something concrete.

[KrazyKiko]

 The ME3 team is still working hard on the EC. We have no further news and won't be rushing it or announcements on it.

Had they NOT rushed the game to begin with - regardless of fault (BioWare / EA) - we probably wouldn't be having this thread.  It's a shame how business is becoming more "reactionary" versus proactive in release cycles.

[Kunari801]

chemiclord wrote...

jeff359 wrote...

The fact they truly believed they had something good is what makes me concerned. But I have some faith

Believe it or not, people make mistakes.  Even the best writers misguage what fans expect or what they'd want.  Sometimes the story the writer is telling isn't the one the audience is experiencing.

It happens.  At that point, the creator has to balance what the audience expects with what he or she wants to say.  It's not as simple as bending over and giving the fans everything they want and to hell with anything else.  That's empty pandering, and can be done by anyone. 

Agree Chemiclord.   Having read the "ME3 Final Hours" app over the weekend (Why it's iOS exclusive makes me mad) it made clear of a few things: 

-Mass Effect was from very early in design planned as a "Trilogy".   I think this blinded them to the possibility that there was too much to do in ME3 for just one game and should have asked it to be split into two games with DLC in between games. 
-The "Organic-vs-Synthetic" conflict was part of Mass Effect from early development. ME1 sets this up well but ME2 totally changed the conflict and the team perhaps didn't realize this. 
-ME3 was rushed. Shortest development time of the three and most ambitious. Launching on PS3, XBox and PC at once plus the scope of the game with all the character & story arcs that needed to be addressed.  (see point 3 above) 
 -Burn out. It sounded like Casey and the team were pushed too hard and maybe got burned out. Forcing them to rush and make poor judgement on cuts to the game & story. 
-Indoctrination was part of the ME3 plot plan, but I don't think to the extent that the IT guys have taken the idea. 

People make mistakes when they are rushed, same as when they are tired.   Combine tired & rushed and it's a setup for disaster.  

Edit:  "Sometimes the story the writer is telling isn't the one the audience is experiencing."  Yes, I think this has much to do with Star-brat.   Ties in with the "Organic-vs-Synthetic" conflict point above.  I think for most of us players, the conflict evolved away from "AI's are bad m'kay" with the EDI and Geth story arcs but the team didn't realize it and thought us players were still on the same page.  Thus Star-brat comes off as illogical. 

Modifié par Kunari801, 29 mai 2012 - 08:19 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

It's a mistake, yeah. But it's how they are handling their mistake is what is irking me.

[frozn89]

Admittedly I would've loved a release date, but I'm glad that they're not rushing this and taking their time. Since they won't tell us anything at E3, I doubt that they'll release it during the summer though, closer to autumn perhaps.

[jijeebo]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

It's a mistake, yeah. But it's how they are handling their mistake is what is irking me.

True dat.





I'm sort of treating the EC the same way i'm treating the Tomb Raider reboot... The more time they spend working on it the better because it increases the likelihood of it being amazeballs.


I was a teency bit gutted there isn't going to be any update on the release date though, but that's my impatient side coming through.

Modifié par jijeebo, 29 mai 2012 - 10:06 .

[chemiclord]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

It's a mistake, yeah. But it's how they are handling their mistake is what is irking me.

Well, here's what I'd ask you.

What should they say?  

Their PR releases are ripped to shreds and accused of being veiled insults to their fans.

Developers who came on these boards were metaphorically eviscerated the moment they appeared.

What can Bioware say?  EA is never going to let them admit the game was rushed, or anything that might imply that ME3 isn't exactly what it was claimed to be.  All they could give you is empty PR statements.  Do you really want more of that?

Honestly, silence is the best policy right now, as much as it may seem like it isn't.

Modifié par chemiclord, 29 mai 2012 - 10:07 .