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[Catastrophy]

Geth pyros shouldn't have dodge.
They have shields,
they have armour,
they have a volatile mix of fluids in a container on their back.
They should not do the jiggly stuff.

And I really detest the flamer range.
They should also make more noise. They are too sneaky.

Modifié par dr_random, 30 mai 2012 - 03:28 .

[BazoozooTV]

Air Quotes wrote...

Bioware didn't need to buff them. They just had to make Sabotage into what it is now. That's it. No health buffs, no pyro's range extension beyond animation. And no additional Primes. 

Yeah, if there's one thing I'd question it'd be the decision to extend the Pyro's flame range. It makes it really hard to run away  :-(

dr_random wrote...

Geth pyros shouldn't have dodge. 
They have shields, 
they have armour, 
they have a volatile mix of fluids in a container on their back. 
They should not do the jiggly stuff.

Ok - you have a good point too. And dodge - why do they dodge?! Especially when I try to stagger them with a power so I can run away...

Modifié par BazoozooTV, 30 mai 2012 - 03:26 .

[holdenagincourt]

Creston918 wrote...

Overload and Energy Drain still absolutely ruin them, so eh. They're the only enemy that can be totally disabled by a CC ability. (Well, I guess Stasis Bubble counts, sort of.)

So they need something to make up for it. Taking away the headshots on primes, though. Damn. That's going to make killing them take a LOT longer.

Well it's a good thing that every character has Overload or Energy Drain as a pocket ability then! 

Those abilities don't even reliably stagger any Geth units other than regular troopers. Everything else just keeps closing in on you (other than Rocket Troopers, who shoot a few missiles around your cover in reward for your efforts). Pyros and Hunters don't even flinch. They just keep advancing. And then they kill you.

[Blind2Society]

BazoozooTV wrote...

I know they've been buffed. It was obvious - but does that make them overpowered? Not necessarily... 

I kind of like that they're a bit less underpowered. Although Pyros do annoy the heck out of me!

Geth aren't overpowered if you have a team full of infiltrators. They're overpowered if you use any class that needs to be up close.

Here are the are the issues I have with the Geth

- Geth turrets, each prime can only put out one and once it's destroyed, it's gone.

- Hunters, there needs to be less or they need to remove their stunlock capability or they need to reduce their damage. Also, them shooting while stunned needs to be fixed.

- Pyros, range decrease. It seems the range of their flamer is actually larger than the range at which they start using it. You get in and deal some damage then roll back but you're still getting hit so you roll back again but your still getting hit. Add to that the 3 other pyros, 4 hunters, two primes and multitude of turrets.

- Rocket troopers, this one is obvious. Them shooting while stunned needs to be fixed and them shooting up to three rockets at once needs to be fixed as well.

- Geth troopers, they step on you way too quick. This is annoying but not really a big deal.

- All, they evade way too much and/or way too efficiently.


Again, if you're a long range character geth really aren't much of an issue, but try a Vorcha, Batarian or Krogan. You're screwed. The part that's even worse, it seems every time I pick my vorcha, I get geth enemies.

[O Curinga]

just get some characters with overload and it fine

[Ziegrif]

Falcon shot them with cryo ammo.
Geth have a fatal weakness to explosive projectiles.
They group up WAAAAAY too much.

[tetsutsuru]

Wait. Rocket Troopers shooting 2 rockets at once is actually "normal"???

I was just writing it off as a lag-induced glitch.

[Blind2Society]

You know what, I see an even simpler solution. It's not ideal as enemies should be balanced to the point where I can use whatever class I want against any enemy but if the game simply told us what enemy was up next, problem solved. I can switch to a class that is effective against that enemy.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 30 mai 2012 - 03:41 .

[NuclearTech76]

Remove the stunlock and I'm happy. They're hard but not unbeatable.

[Ziegrif]

tetsutsuru wrote...

Wait. Rocket Troopers shooting 2 rockets at once is actually "normal"???

I was just writing it off as a lag-induced glitch.

Nah when they fire 4 then it's lag. Geth rocketeers love us so much they give us 2 rockets for the price of 1.

[L.ast L.ife]

Hunters evading whilst cloaked on top of the speed boost make me want to punch someone in the junk. Repeatedly.

[GGW KillerTiger]

O Curinga wrote...

just get some characters with overload and it fine

Yes let me get my crystal magic ball so I can see if the random enemy will be geth or not so I know to switch charachters ....

[Blind2Society]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

O Curinga wrote...

just get some characters with overload and it fine

Yes let me get my crystal magic ball so I can see if the random enemy will be geth or not so I know to switch charachters ....

Blind2Society wrote...

You know what, I see an even simpler solution. It's not ideal as enemies should be balanced to the point where I can use whatever class I want against any enemy but if the game simply told us what enemy was up next, problem solved. I can switch to a class that is effective against that enemy.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 30 mai 2012 - 03:55 .

[palker]

greghorvath wrote...

I have noticed they have got tougher as well


or maybe not...

So you beat Geth with 4 infiltrators probably salrians/geth OMG you are so awesome teach me how to be as good as you.

Modifié par palker, 30 mai 2012 - 04:02 .

[holdenagincourt]

^ Yeah pretty much what I thought. The team was probably optimized to defeat Geth seeing as Energy Drain, Hunter Mode, Prox Mine, Sabotage and TC are all OP against them.

But, it's still gold in under 20 minutes, so more like CSB.

[Jonathan Shepard]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

On the other hand, vanguard glitch will be fixed. He's one of the best in the game at shutting down a hunter/pyro rush.

I don't think they fixed the "mash Y to not charge" bug. 

Unfortunately not. I've noticed that it happens less often in the past day though. However, sometimes I /will/ charge, but it won't do damage or set off an explosion, even while hosting.
Fix one problem, and make another. <_<

[Nereithr]

Recently played dagger/gold/geth with a friend, an acquaintance and a stranger, and i can say that they are perfectly fine. Yes, they are now tougher than reapers in some aspects. But it only makes them more fun.

We were a Batarian Soldier(me), a sniping asari vanguard(i will kill my friend the next time he uses it.) with the new SR, and 2 Geth Engineers(one with javelin). We wiped on wave 10(we generally never wipe, but we made a stupid mistake and got cornered on the hack objective. I had no consumables at all, too.

Only one thing about geth. Stunlock on krogans and batarians. It needs to go. Other characters are not staggered as easily, but krogans and batarians? They just stand there derpfaced eating every pulse from that prime.

[Immortal Strife]

I played Gold Geth Goddess last night and it was the hardest match I've ever played. The wave 10 objective was a hack in the middle of the map and we had no chance. My team was all close quarter combat characters, so that didn't help. The hunters were difficult to see because of the dark layout of Goddess, and we were getting flacked everywhere. It was fun as hell though. I would love to someone solo Gold Goddess Geth, now that would take some real skill.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 30 mai 2012 - 04:20 .

[Buckapocka]

psrz wrote...

Buckapocka wrote...

P.S: What the motherf*ckin hell is wrong with farming, people??? Everybody wants good equipment, but they can't get it, because of the ridiculously f*cked up store system! The best way to "trick" it, is the farming on FBW against geth... If you don't want to play farming matches, then quit the lobby, or HOST YOUR OWN GAME! 

Peace

Farming is evil. It provides a reliable way to raise in-game creds. And with those, you can avoid gambling with real money on the store.

If Bioware thinks, I would give real money for in-game packs, they're fools! Wrex should eat them! 

[Jonathan Shepard]

Problems with Geth:
1. Stunlock.
2. Stunlock.
3. Stunlock.

[greghorvath]

palker wrote...
So you beat Geth with 4 infiltrators probably salrians/geth OMG you are so awesome teach me how to be as good as you.

Well, we are both on the PC so we can give it a shot. Can't promise anything though, you need talent for this level of awesomeness. NB I am not saying you don't have it...
Btw, I was the last in that game so you actually picked the weekest link. Good guess about the salarian/geth, but there was a also a shotty human infiltrator with us. In fact, he came first. Two shotties and two snipers. 

^ Yeah pretty much what I thought. The team was probably optimized to
defeat Geth seeing as Energy Drain, Hunter Mode, Prox Mine, Sabotage and
TC are all OP against them.

Yes, my friend and me always spec for geth on random/random/gold public games and rage quit if its anything else than FBWGG.

so more like CSB.

Canada Savings Bond? What does that have to do with anything?

But seriously, its so tiresome to see all these threads about things that are not popping up ceaselessly. If at least the OPs would have the decency to look up the equally nonsenical previous threads and post in there. I did not post to brag, I am too old and shy for that. It was posted as a counter argument, knowing fully well some smartasses like you guys would start the BS. Well done. 

[Blind2Society]

greghorvath wrote...

palker wrote...
So you beat Geth with 4 infiltrators probably salrians/geth OMG you are so awesome teach me how to be as good as you.

Well, we are both on the PC so we can give it a shot. Can't promise anything though, you need talent for this level of awesomeness. NB I am not saying you don't have it...
Btw, I was the last in that game so you actually picked the weekest link. Good guess about the salarian/geth, but there was a also a shotty human infiltrator with us. In fact, he came first. Two shotties and two snipers. 

^ Yeah pretty much what I thought. The team was probably optimized to
defeat Geth seeing as Energy Drain, Hunter Mode, Prox Mine, Sabotage and
TC are all OP against them.

Yes, my friend and me always spec for geth on random/random/gold public games and rage quit if its anything else than FBWGG.

so more like CSB.

Canada Savings Bond? What does that have to do with anything?

But seriously, its so tiresome to see all these threads about things that are not popping up ceaselessly. If at least the OPs would have the decency to look up the equally nonsenical previous threads and post in there. I did not post to brag, I am too old and shy for that. It was posted as a counter argument, knowing fully well some smartasses like you guys would start the BS. Well done. 

You used a four infiltrator team as grounds for saying the geth are not OP. In that case you're right, they are not OP against a four infiltrator team. It's quite ridiculous, however, to say that all enemies should be balanced against a four infiltrator team.

You come in here with a weak ass argument, claming you didn't come here to brag, and you insult people. Sounds an awful lot like a troll to me.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 30 mai 2012 - 08:11 .

[kyles3]

dr_random wrote...

Geth pyros shouldn't have dodge.
They have shields,
they have armour,
they have a volatile mix of fluids in a container on their back.
They should not do the jiggly stuff.

This is a very good point. If Pyros can have a ton of shields and health and still be able to dodge, why can't Krogans, Batarians, and Turians? The lack of a Turian roll when Marauders have one is the most egregious example, but should go without saying at this point.

[greghorvath]

*snip*

Edit: I made the error of posting in a substandard thread, engaging in a pointless discussion. Will not happen again. Bye.

Modifié par greghorvath, 31 mai 2012 - 08:09 .

[holdenagincourt]

greghorvath wrote...

*snip*

Edit: I made the error of posting in a substandard thread, engaging in a pointless discussion. Will not happen again. Bye.

The error you made was making a post and replies to other forum members which were clearly meant to incite and troll, and calling others "jackasses" who were dealing in "BS." This thread and discussion were not substandard or pointless, your contributions were. The fact that you could not even gracefully edit what I'm sure was more of the same in this last post and had to leave with a backhanded insult further proves that.