Yup, the Harrier is way too heavy for Vanguard. I picked all the weight evolutions to get the Reegar Carbine X at 185%. Charge cooldowns are 0,15 seconds longer, but it's worth it in my opinion.Nissun wrote...
Ryuji2 wrote...
What weapon loadouts are you guys using?
I've tried the eviscerator (typical in my vanguards) and just to keep the Cerberus theme, the hornet. Both worked well for him. Would also like to try the Mattock and the Talon, and even the Harrier, but they're way too heavy for a vanguard.
And I don't want to sacrifice cooldown for aesthetic purposes, no matter how cool the result.
My Goodness The Ex-Cerberus Vanguard is a Monster
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#26
Posté 30 mai 2012 - 07:58
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#27
Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:04
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Fade9wayz wrote...
Damn do I want to unlock him soon!
He might be technically a Gold Character but in reality he's an Ultra-Rare. I bought around 40 PSPs today and only got one of the new HVs while almost maxing most of the other new character cards. And to put it into even more distinct perspective I got 3 sabers.
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:07
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Aw i got 2 UR for 3.8 mln, i'm not sure but i think i got more than one of CVRyan_H wrote...
Fade9wayz wrote...
Damn do I want to unlock him soon!
He might be technically a Gold Character but in reality he's an Ultra-Rare. I bought around 40 PSPs today and only got one of the new HVs while almost maxing most of the other new character cards. And to put it into even more distinct perspective I got 3 sabers.
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:08
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madnyg wrote...
Yup, the Harrier is way too heavy for Vanguard. I picked all the weight evolutions to get the Reegar Carbine X at 185%. Charge cooldowns are 0,15 seconds longer, but it's worth it in my opinion.Nissun wrote...
Ryuji2 wrote...
What weapon loadouts are you guys using?
I've tried the eviscerator (typical in my vanguards) and just to keep the Cerberus theme, the hornet. Both worked well for him. Would also like to try the Mattock and the Talon, and even the Harrier, but they're way too heavy for a vanguard.
And I don't want to sacrifice cooldown for aesthetic purposes, no matter how cool the result.
Carnifex X: headshots after a charge and headshots from across the map before he charges plus a 200% CD. He's a caster that can charge. If you treat him like a Nova Charger then your going to miss out on alot of what he is capable of.
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:11
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Stahlhammer wrote...
Aw i got 2 UR for 3.8 mln, i'm not sure but i think i got more than one of CV
Actually I got 8 URs for around 4 mil:
Javelin
Saber (3)
Talon
Wraith (2)
Paladin
In one pack I got a wraith and paladin!
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:16
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Ryan_H wrote...
Stahlhammer wrote...
Aw i got 2 UR for 3.8 mln, i'm not sure but i think i got more than one of CV
Actually I got 8 URs for around 4 mil:
Javelin
Saber (3)
Talon
Wraith (2)
Paladin
In one pack I got a wraith and paladin!
Oh yeah, ROLL OUT SOME BUILDS PEOPLE :happy:
#32
Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:18
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I honestly don't like this character, mainly because I thought Smash would be on a seperate cooldown from Charge. But nope, have to wait for the cooldown after charging and when the cooldown is ready you need to charge again right away to stay alive. It feels like I shouldn't go right next to the enemies, but still the range on Smash isn't that great so you kind of have to.
But the basic reason that I don't like it is because I was really expecting some fast-paced in-your-face action like with novaguard.
I'll probably turn it into more of a ranged character for detonating Reave with Lash as the cooldown on that is so short. With a couple of Reave spamming friends the map explodes.
E: Mixed up Smash and Lash
But the basic reason that I don't like it is because I was really expecting some fast-paced in-your-face action like with novaguard.
I'll probably turn it into more of a ranged character for detonating Reave with Lash as the cooldown on that is so short. With a couple of Reave spamming friends the map explodes.
E: Mixed up Smash and Lash
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#33
Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:19
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I've been trying him out since I unlocked him last night, I have to admit I'm starting to like the Phoenix class, once I get Vanguard up to a high level again I plan to take him into gold and see how he fairs.
Now all we need is a Female version of the Phoenix wearing Phantom Armour
Now all we need is a Female version of the Phoenix wearing Phantom Armour
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 08:20
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Wow, bad luck. I got all the characters with about 2-3mil and then with another 2mil maxed the characters custimization and even spent some on veteran packs to get the uncommon gear. Got a Harrier I-II, BW V-VI, Saber III-IV, Wraith V-VI, Paladin VII, and maxed out the 2 new rare guns. Had 6mil in total. But with all that I've yet to get the Indra, Talon, or Scorpion, of which the Indra and Talon i really want.Ryan_H wrote...
Fade9wayz wrote...
Damn do I want to unlock him soon!
He might be technically a Gold Character but in reality he's an Ultra-Rare. I bought around 40 PSPs today and only got one of the new HVs while almost maxing most of the other new character cards. And to put it into even more distinct perspective I got 3 sabers.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:04
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this was posted on ME3multiplayer site
Biotic Charge: Radius (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash:(1), (2), (3)
Lash: Damage (4), Recharge Speed (5), Shield Penetration (6)
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5)
Fitness:Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Power Synergy (6)
with my limited time with this character (just unlocked last night), i personally didn't enjoy using lash. it would've been a great power had it not pulled the enemy all over the place. i think a better build would be...
Biotic Charge: Radius (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash: Biotic Combo (4), Force and Damage (5), Armor Damage (6)
Lash: N/A
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5), Pistols and Shotguns (6)
Fitness: Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Power Synergy (6)
this is what i'm gonna rebuild on. with this, i'd carry a Carnifex and Charge/Melee and shoot the weaker enemies. then, as the above said, use the heck outta Smash for things like Brutes, Geth Prime, etc. you could also go with Electrical Damage as power evo for rank 4 on Smash. not sure which would be more effective. i guess increasing damange by 50% for 7.5 seconds would be better for the whole team???
Biotic Charge: Radius (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash:(1), (2), (3)
Lash: Damage (4), Recharge Speed (5), Shield Penetration (6)
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5)
Fitness:Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Power Synergy (6)
with my limited time with this character (just unlocked last night), i personally didn't enjoy using lash. it would've been a great power had it not pulled the enemy all over the place. i think a better build would be...
Biotic Charge: Radius (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash: Biotic Combo (4), Force and Damage (5), Armor Damage (6)
Lash: N/A
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5), Pistols and Shotguns (6)
Fitness: Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Power Synergy (6)
this is what i'm gonna rebuild on. with this, i'd carry a Carnifex and Charge/Melee and shoot the weaker enemies. then, as the above said, use the heck outta Smash for things like Brutes, Geth Prime, etc. you could also go with Electrical Damage as power evo for rank 4 on Smash. not sure which would be more effective. i guess increasing damange by 50% for 7.5 seconds would be better for the whole team???
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:10
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It's great, but I still find lash a bit unpredictable.
Build at the moment:
Charge 6 (Force/Damage, Power Synergy, Barrier)
Smash 6 (Force/Damage, Force/Damage, Impact Radius)
Lash 6 (Detonate, DoT, Shield penetration)
Phoenix training 4 (weight capacity)
Fitness 4 (durability)
Using a Talon V at the moment, but I would like to try out the Reegar with this once I unlock it.
I am considering changing smash 6 to Armour/Barrier Damage, and lash 4 to Damage - ignoring biotic explosiong for the most part and just focus on raw damage.
Build at the moment:
Charge 6 (Force/Damage, Power Synergy, Barrier)
Smash 6 (Force/Damage, Force/Damage, Impact Radius)
Lash 6 (Detonate, DoT, Shield penetration)
Phoenix training 4 (weight capacity)
Fitness 4 (durability)
Using a Talon V at the moment, but I would like to try out the Reegar with this once I unlock it.
I am considering changing smash 6 to Armour/Barrier Damage, and lash 4 to Damage - ignoring biotic explosiong for the most part and just focus on raw damage.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:14
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I want this damn Character....I start drooling over all the Cerberus stuff...The harrier is wonderful too *sniff*
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:24
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The RNG has seen fit to grant me one 3 times so far so I'm trying to make the best of it. Right now I'm trying a build that ignores smash and maxes out fitness for shields (with martial artist because hey why not.) Lash is specced for the damage over time and penetrating shields.
Normally, I'll sit back and lash things towards me and heavy melee/charge them if they don't outright die or go flying off of a cliff. If I charge something I follow it up with a heavy melee and maybe a lash for kicks.
Basically I really like lash, it's fantastic. Great utility on a short cooldown. I want to like smash but I think I would need the radius upgrade to really get use out of it and I'm not sure what to sacrifice to pick it up. Maybe I'll try a build that scarifices the passive for it somewhat.
Normally, I'll sit back and lash things towards me and heavy melee/charge them if they don't outright die or go flying off of a cliff. If I charge something I follow it up with a heavy melee and maybe a lash for kicks.
Basically I really like lash, it's fantastic. Great utility on a short cooldown. I want to like smash but I think I would need the radius upgrade to really get use out of it and I'm not sure what to sacrifice to pick it up. Maybe I'll try a build that scarifices the passive for it somewhat.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:36
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the reason that i don't find Lash all that useful is because it doesn't do anything to armored targets. at least with Smash you can use it on everything. there's basically no way you could go into a Gold match with Lash spec'd out and hope to survive.
also, if you are going to use Lash, i def wouldn't do detonate and instead go with damage on rank 4 evo. it was rare that i could use Lash and then do a biotic charge afterwards to cause a detonation because Lash will pull your enemy all over the place. if anything, Lash + Charge would be for enemies that are really really far away from you.
also, if you are going to use Lash, i def wouldn't do detonate and instead go with damage on rank 4 evo. it was rare that i could use Lash and then do a biotic charge afterwards to cause a detonation because Lash will pull your enemy all over the place. if anything, Lash + Charge would be for enemies that are really really far away from you.
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#41
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:44
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I'm still level 15 with CV but after 5 matches I don't like it very much. His low health makes him squishy, not to mention that Smash has an infinite animation that get you killed a lot of times if you don't know what you are doing. Lash on the other hand is a very nice skill, useful and with short cooldown. One thing I noticed is that if you pair him with another CV or CA, he becomes much more useful
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:50
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Saradas85 wrote...
I'm still level 15 with CV but after 5 matches I don't like it very much. His low health makes him squishy, not to mention that Smash has an infinite animation that get you killed a lot of times if you don't know what you are doing. Lash on the other hand is a very nice skill, useful and with short cooldown. One thing I noticed is that if you pair him with another CV or CA, he becomes much more useful
that's because you're a lvl 15. max out Charge at 6 for barrier and you'll be fine. i feel like this guy is more closely related to the Krogan Battlemaster, where you rely more on Charge as a way to keep you alive. i also feel like there may be some balance changes with this guy.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:58
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Is anyone playing with fitness 3?
I'm concerned about durability, but the passive 5 power damage benefits all three powers, and only sacrificing 75 barrier 75 health..
I'm concerned about durability, but the passive 5 power damage benefits all three powers, and only sacrificing 75 barrier 75 health..
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 02:03
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If anyone fancies trying somthing a bit different.
I would Suggest runnung 6-6-6-0-6 with 200%CD (using a Phalanx w/ap/Mellee mod)
That coulpled with a Bastion mod is working wonders for me atm, and is fast enough to pull off some intresting combos. for example lash-HM-Smash-HM in the space of 6 seconds at the same time as triggering your own BE.
I would Suggest runnung 6-6-6-0-6 with 200%CD (using a Phalanx w/ap/Mellee mod)
That coulpled with a Bastion mod is working wonders for me atm, and is fast enough to pull off some intresting combos. for example lash-HM-Smash-HM in the space of 6 seconds at the same time as triggering your own BE.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 02:59
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okay, i've updated my build with the correct power evolutions.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 03:03
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My guess is you've only played him on Bronze or Silver. Gold is much trickier as he becomes much squishier and the close range required for Smash puts you right in the face of the enemy, basically melee range. Still hoping to find a strategy that makes him more viable on Gold, but I'm quickly losing interest in either of the ex-cerb classes. Justicar is much funner and more survive-able.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 03:36
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Micah3sixty wrote...
My guess is you've only played him on Bronze or Silver. Gold is much trickier as he becomes much squishier and the close range required for Smash puts you right in the face of the enemy, basically melee range. Still hoping to find a strategy that makes him more viable on Gold, but I'm quickly losing interest in either of the ex-cerb classes. Justicar is much funner and more survive-able.
but on Gold, what would you do about things like Brutes and Geth Prime... Atlas'? i haven't tried him on Gold. maybe there is no good build for Gold
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 04:18
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i'd also like to try out:
Biotic Charge: Force & Damage (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash: Biotic Combo (4), Force and Damage (5), Armor Damage (6)
Lash: N/A
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5), Pistols and Shotguns (6)
Fitness: Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Melee Synergy (6)
this should pwn all, even on Gold mate. i switched rank 4 evo of Charge to pure damage and rank 6 of Fitness for more melee damage. i wonder if a smash/melee followed by a charge would kill everything on Gold. hmmm
Biotic Charge: Force & Damage (4), Power Synergy (5), Barrier (6)
Smash: Biotic Combo (4), Force and Damage (5), Armor Damage (6)
Lash: N/A
Phoenix Training: Damage and Capacity (4), Power Damage (5), Pistols and Shotguns (6)
Fitness: Melee Damage (4), Martial Artist (5), Melee Synergy (6)
this should pwn all, even on Gold mate. i switched rank 4 evo of Charge to pure damage and rank 6 of Fitness for more melee damage. i wonder if a smash/melee followed by a charge would kill everything on Gold. hmmm
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 04:42
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Ryan_H wrote...
Fade9wayz wrote...
Damn do I want to unlock him soon!
He might be technically a Gold Character but in reality he's an Ultra-Rare. I bought around 40 PSPs today and only got one of the new HVs while almost maxing most of the other new character cards. And to put it into even more distinct perspective I got 3 sabers.
Nope. I got him in my first PSP after downloading Rebellion, then got appearance options for him in the next three I bought.
Only new character I've got and I don't really have any use for him. <_<
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