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[Chromie]

android654 wrote...
What's appealing about the setting? You've never seen Blade Runner? A Scanner Darkly? Equilibrium? Code 46? Children of Men?

Addai if you haven't watch every movie just mentioned but who hasn't seen Children of Men?

Addai67 wrote...

but I'm disappointed it's not Dune. I really want a good Dune game.

Well I would love a Dune rpg too but I never expected CDPR to make one it was just wishful thinking on my part.

Modifié par Skelter192, 30 mai 2012 - 09:55 .

[Addai]

I have seen Children of Men.

[Sajji]

So apparently in the PnP there is no levelling, only skill advancement. And every bullet can be lethal, which in turn emphasises stealth.

Sweetness. That's good to hear

[android654]

It's a writing style. So those examples would give you a feel for the style in which it would be presented. It's like someone asking what a love story is like, and people referencing The Notebook, or Romeo and Juliet. You can do that with every form of writing or music.

On whether it's third or first person, they said they'll have a character creator. Seems kind of pointless to announce that if you'll never see your character.

[RedArmyShogun]

@ Saji.

Not really, I have yet to see a "play as you want" game in which having a heavy stealth mechanic hasn't always turned into "play like this or die alot".

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 30 mai 2012 - 10:03 .

[hangmans tree]

Addai67 wrote...
What's unique about the world? For those of you who know the pen and paper RPG, what's appealing about the setting?

The Edge.

You live on the Edge, where image is everything.
Imagine info society ruled by the megacorporations, gouvernment of the US almost non existent. Corporations wage war in the world and only certain in your life is that everything has a price.

Night City, city of fallen angels, a place where you can find anything you want, where you can be anything you like and take whatever you need... if you have he power and will to do so.

Be sure to watch the news!

[Rockworm503]

AdamJenson wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

Geeze, that image you used to represent fantasy sucked, android. If you're going to do a comparison then find something *good*. Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer works, for example. Not clowns at a ren faire. XD

It's a realistic depiction.  The stuff of games is all Conan the Barbarian with all the guys these steroid monsters, all the women these tall, statuesque models (unaccountably with the same physical strength as the steroid monster guy), wizards in evening dresses/bathrobes and a glowing globe on a staff (long grey beard, pointy hat).  Then there is the "rogue" (always a rogue) who wears scruffy leathers, has a bow-and-arrow, a bunch of dwarfs sporting MONSTROUS battleaxes, elfs with the pointy ears and bows-and-arrows.  The Bad Guys™ all wear black armor, have creepy style helmets, always have monsters as allies, very likely all with red glowing eyes...

How are bows-and-arrows and unaccountably huge broadswords, magic swords, HUGE battleaxes, fireball magic weapons different from guns?  They do precisely the same thing but in silly fashion.  

Nothin's better than a silenced sniper rifle for distance and a silenced pistol for close-in.  Nothin. No magic armor, no Mithril Mail.  And can you IMAGINE the BO those leather and sword toters would have (man OR woman)?  Yech!   At least in modern or future depicting games, you can be virtually certain that the men and women, whether good guy or bad, WEAR DEODORANT AND TAKE SHOWERS.

In the future everyone always have ugly tatoos and hairstyles.  THey can take showers but why?  they'll just shoot you if you say anything.  The good guys always have badass tech like arms or a trenchoat the bad guys arre always some secret organization hidden dark rooms plotting and cars always fly.

See I can make your favorite setting look bad too 

[hangmans tree]

Sajji wrote...

So apparently in the PnP there is no levelling, only skill advancement. And every bullet can be lethal, which in turn emphasises stealth.

Sweetness. That's good to hear

Stealth is an option, fighting sense is the key - your reaction time and aim is a life and death difference. Be sure to buy the best processor, parts and soft to be ahead...

[Russalka]

They should make bodily odours break stealth.

[Rockworm503]

AdamJenson wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

The same can be said about shooter games...

Why should a "modern" or near future or future/sci-fi game be a "shooter"?  I'm not talking shooter.

Because they ALWAYS end up as shooters.
ALWAYS

[RedArmyShogun]

Rockworm503 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

The same can be said about shooter games...

Why should a "modern" or near future or future/sci-fi game be a "shooter"?  I'm not talking shooter.

Because they ALWAYS end up as shooters.
ALWAYS

Well in fairness in the near future, current events post 60 years till today, only drugged up bat **** crazy people in african civilwars use anything other than a gun.

In fairness however I think a game about the Buttnaked Brigade in in Liberia would be amussing, your PC has to take drugs, run around naked or in womens wigs and clothing, and you "turn invisible" when your naked, at least to yourself while you hack people up with a machete, or use stleath to sneak up on kids and drown them under the water, just like General Butt Naked.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 30 mai 2012 - 10:23 .

[android654]

^^The f*ck are you talking about?

For those of you who care, here's a listing of the classes in CYBERPUNK 2020, the pen n paper RPG this game will be based off of

Role                   Description                                                                                                  Special Ability
Cop                   |Maximum lawmen on mean 21st century streets                                |Authority
Corporate        |Slick business raiders and multi-millionaires                                      |Resources
Fixer                  |Deal makers, smugglers, organizers and information brokers         |Streetdeal
Media                |Newsmen and reporters who go to the wall for the truth                     |Credibility
Netrunner         |Cybernetic computer hackers                                                                   |Interface
Nomad             |Road warriors and Gypsies who roam the highways                           |Family
Rockerboy       |Rebel rockers who use music and revolt to fight authority                   |Charismatic Leadership
Solo                  |Hired assassins, bodyguards, killers, soldiers                                     |Combat Sense
Techie              |Renegade mechanics and doctors                                                          |Jury Rig/Medical Tech

Modifié par android654, 30 mai 2012 - 10:54 .

[mupp3tz]

Wiki also talks about how the source material isn't level based, but skill point based character progression. Very a la Witcher.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 30 mai 2012 - 10:54 .

[Chromie]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Wiki also talks about how the source material isn't level based, but skill point based character progression. Very a la Witcher.

Or Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines also based on a PnP universe.

[mupp3tz]

Skelter192 wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Wiki also talks about how the source material isn't level based, but skill point based character progression. Very a la Witcher.

Or Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines also based on a PnP universe.

Unrelated: Tina Fey avatar always makes me happy.

Masquerade is one game that I wish I had played. 

[RedArmyShogun]

android654 wrote...

^^The f*ck are you talking about?

Nothing thats not real.

http://en.wikipedia....lahyi#In_battle 

Lol I seen his movie actully its funny how he goes inot detail on how he killed your brother and wants the lords forgiveness.

[Chromie]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Unrelated: Tina Fey avatar always makes me happy.

Who doesn't love that woman?

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Masquerade is one game that I wish I had played.

Well Steam is going to have a Summer sale soon great chance to get the game for only $5. Fantastic rpg and you'll be able to try a RPG with a PnP system so you can get an idea  (no idea if you have experience with PnP just saying) and it's just a great game with some hilarious dialogue.

[android654]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Wiki also talks about how the source material isn't level based, but skill point based character progression. Very a la Witcher.

Or Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines also based on a PnP universe.

Unrelated: Tina Fey avatar always makes me happy.

Masquerade is one game that I wish I had played. 

Pick it up. It doesn't matter what machine you have. There are pc's at public libraries that are overpowered for that game. It should run fine with no problems. You're definitely missing out if you've never played it.

[AdamJenson]

Addai67 wrote...

I'm not talking about it as a game but as a setting. What's unique about the world? For those of you who know the pen and paper RPG, what's appealing about the setting?

I had an idea.  Not that it matters because we are not a game company but...  Thinking about the thread and discussion of the genres (the clearly inferior and overdone fantasy genre with swords and sorcery and the call here for more futuristic/scifi RPG) and realized that there is away to combine both.  Anyone here read the Gene Wolff "Urth of the New Sun" series? ("Shadow of the Torturer", etc)  It is an interesting amalgam of scifi/fantasy (without magic and wizards, per se - as Asimov said about "a sufficiently advanced science will be indistinguishable from magic").  Its setting is a VASTLY distant earth future (Urth), like a million years hence.  The place is practically unrecognizable. There is Severian, the protagonist who is a member of the Torturers Guild and among his tools is a long sword (high techy version - though no lasers or such nonsense).  There are all kinds of odd science and creatures (a million years of evolution and, apparently, some mixing in of alien lifeforms). 

Basically THAT would be an interesting world and premise upon which to build an action/RPG.

[mupp3tz]

@Skelter192
@android654

Think my Macbook Pro can handle Masquerade on Boot Camp? ?

[android654]

I think a smartphone can run that game. It's old.

[Russalka]

It needs to be patched though, preferably by unofficial ones. The original build was very buggy. But those can be found easily. Some wonderful fan-made mods out there too.

Modifié par Russalka, 30 mai 2012 - 11:45 .

[Brockololly]

Most excellent! I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Now all they have to do is get Daft Punk to do the soundtrack and it'll be even better.

[Chromie]

Russalka wrote...

It needs to be patched though, preferably by unofficial ones. The original build was very buggy. But those can be found easily. Some wonderful fan-made mods out there too.

The user made patch has been updated to 8.0 now actually!

Brockololly wrote...

Most excellent! I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Now all they have to do is get Daft Punk to do the soundtrack and it'll be even better.

Can't wait to hear some of the music for the game. I liked Human Revolution's OST but there were only a handful of tracks I really listend too.

Modifié par Skelter192, 31 mai 2012 - 12:14 .

[Addai]

AdamJenson wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I'm not talking about it as a game but as a setting. What's unique about the world? For those of you who know the pen and paper RPG, what's appealing about the setting?

I had an idea.  Not that it matters because we are not a game company but...  Thinking about the thread and discussion of the genres (the clearly inferior and overdone fantasy genre with swords and sorcery and the call here for more futuristic/scifi RPG) and realized that there is away to combine both.  Anyone here read the Gene Wolff "Urth of the New Sun" series? ("Shadow of the Torturer", etc)  It is an interesting amalgam of scifi/fantasy (without magic and wizards, per se - as Asimov said about "a sufficiently advanced science will be indistinguishable from magic").  Its setting is a VASTLY distant earth future (Urth), like a million years hence.  The place is practically unrecognizable. There is Severian, the protagonist who is a member of the Torturers Guild and among his tools is a long sword (high techy version - though no lasers or such nonsense).  There are all kinds of odd science and creatures (a million years of evolution and, apparently, some mixing in of alien lifeforms). 

Basically THAT would be an interesting world and premise upon which to build an action/RPG.

It's sort of off topic but this is probably why I like Dune so much, not being otherwise too big on sci fi.  Because of the Butlerian Jihad, the world of Dune is in some ways like the ancient Near East with nomadic Arabs, Greeks and Persians, and there are magic/ mystical aspects as well.  It's just an interesting juxtaposition.

But, whatever.  I'm sure this will be a good game even if the teaser doesn't push my buttons.  It's CDPR and I won't sneeze at their sort of mature, high quality WRPG no matter what the setting.