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[RocketManSR2]

Here is the link: social.bioware.com/870115/polls/34554/

Most of us know about Emily Wong dying during a Twitter drama to build hype for ME3's release. Should that even count? I for one voted no. I want Emily Wong to be put properly into ME3 at some point in the future.

- I realize that BioWare would probably just make it some news story about Wong's death instead of letting her get that exclusive that Shepard owed her, but anything is better than being killed off via social media. Hmm, I think I'll change the poll title.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 30 mai 2012 - 12:32 .

[CrystalCircuit]

Absolutely not. At the very least they should have had something about it in the actual game.

[NoUserNameHere]

We talking about Emily Wong, or the 'bad times on the Citadel' tweet?

Emily's death was a promotional thing on the eve of launch. It seemed like it was meant to 'happen' in-'verse.

'Bad times' was an attempt to turn Twitter into the Mass Effect Auxilary Codex because the developers left essential cutscenes out of their damn game.

[RocketManSR2]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

We talking about Emily Wong, or the 'bad times on the Citadel' tweet?

Emily's death was a promotional thing on the eve of launch. It seemed like it was meant to 'happen' in-'verse.

'Bad times' was an attempt to turn Twitter into the Mass Effect Auxilary Codex because the developers left essential cutscenes out of their damn game.

People being killed off like poor Emily. Another topic has her actually being in ME3 in the leaked script from November of last year. That is what got me thinking about whether or not social media should be included in the canon of a story. Filling the plot holes in your mess of a story over Twitter is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. 

- Here's that topic about the cut Emily content. It's from the spoiler forum. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12092985

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 29 mai 2012 - 08:11 .

[Robhuzz]

Ugh no it's cheap as heck.

Anything canon should be in the game itself or another official piece of the franchise like a book. Anything said on twitter like that is just a fail on BioWare's part for forgetting to put it in the game.

Emily wong only got killed off to make room for dianna allers anyway, complete waste there...

[wolfsite]

Honestly it should happen in game or have messages of events in game.  Not everyone bothers with social media sites so many people may never know about what happens there and are left wondering what happenned with this person or X event.

It also is rather cheap, no offence, to have to go outside of the game to get info especially if it is an important part of the story.

[AlanC9]

If it's an official message from Bio, it counts and should count. The last thing we need is even less trust in the information Bio puts out.

[Han Shot First]

I wish it had also been referenced in game at some point, but it should remain canon.

It also beats not hearing anything at all about Emily Wong one way or the other. Because that is the alternative.

[Grimwick]

No.

If it's supposed to be part of a story within a game it has to be WITHIN a game.

[eternalnightmare13]

Not everyone bothers with twitter. Frankly, I don't have the time nor interest to follow twitter, at all. They should've put the same report in ME3 news in game. I was left wonder WTF until someone mentioned it on here awhile back and then was still like WTF?

[bennyjammin79]

Holy f*ckin crap. Get over Emily Wong already. Her Twitter death was a bigger role than ME1 and 2 combined.

Keep it canon. Should there have been some mention of it in game? At the MOST Diana Allers could've mentioned something about fellow reporters being lost on the frontlines ie: Emily Wong.

[devSin]

Yes.

But they didn't actually say she's dead. It's implied that her shuttle is going to die, but Emily may have survived.

Maybe she got somebody to plant a bug in the shuttle and she was never actually in it.

[AlanC9]

Well, wackier escapes have happened in the ME universe.

[tbb033]

Nothing's canon unless/until it's referenced in-game.

[Edolix]

No.

[AdamJenson]

Wha? First, without really knowing what you're talking about (I'll read the OP AFTER I post this): No.

Two, how are you killing in the social network? Sharp tongue? Mean words?

I MUST KNOW THE SECRET TO KILLING VIA SOCIAL NETWORKS!

[Mike 9987]

Who at bioware thought this would be a good idea in the first place?

[AdamJenson]

In MY canon, NO ONE DIES. Ever. Not really. Why? Because this is like, what, the 23rd, 24th century? Hello? Nanotech! Yup, nanotech. Medigel can be this miraculous healing gel by containing nano assemblers that use the material at hand (goo in the gel, injured body parts, any atmospheric gases, dirt, whatever) to repair virtually any injury (technically called a "boo-boo"). This same tech means NO ONE EVER HAS TO DIE, not permanently anyway. Why? Do I have to spell out the most obvious knock-on effects of this tech for everyone? Jeez.

OK, nanoassemblers can repair any boo-boo, they can rebuild a severed arm, leg, big toe, knocked out tooth, fix any botched cheek piercing, and even rebuild an entire body. So...all people do is periodically go to the nanoshop and have themselves backed up into nonvolatile storage by getting FULLY disassembled and then reassembled. Then they go off to fight their little reaper battles, make whoopee with assorted aliens, etc. If they go and get themselves killed, the backup is in storage and nanoassemblers can reassemble you all anew. Of course, the new you is missing any and all memories and experiences that occurred after the backup took place and you got yourself killed but so what? You'd really rather not remember boinking that Jessica Chobot thing anyway so it's all good.

Shepard backs himself up just before the final battle on earth, does a pratfall whilst trying to dodge Habinger's laser pointer. Gets singed, goes loopy, does some stupid things with a toddler, dies...Oops. OK, fire up the backup and reassemble a new Shepard before the whole laser pointer pratfall nonsense and go again.

There has actually been talk in scientific circles TODAY (20th/21st century) about this sort of tech. No WAY they don't actually have it by ME days. Next time Liara goes on and on and on about how many thousands of years she has lived and will live, Shepard can yawn and say, "Yeah? Me too. Want cake?"

Wong isn't actually PERMANENTLY dead, she's just lost any memories and experiences she had since her last nano backup. Good as new.

[AlanC9]

Wow..... we've finally had something wackier than IT proposed.

I'll play -- if that's how death works in the ME universe, what's all the fuss about with Thane's LM? It's not like Kolyat's doing anything serious. Come to think of it, why doesn't Miranda's dad just restore a copy of Oriana from backup? Why is anyone surprised about Shepard coming back? Why doesn't the Alliance have a copy of him since they thought the original was lost.

Nah..... too silly to even be fun.

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 mai 2012 - 10:55 .

[AdamJenson]

AlanC9 wrote...

Wow..... we've finally had something wackier than IT proposed.

Sort of sure, but not really.  It is logical extension that if you have nanoassemblers/disassemblers, what I just laid out becomes simply possible.  If you want to see a full story based upon this speculation then read "Glasshouse" by Charles Stross (ever heard of him?  An ACTUAL author.  A REAL one.  Unlike any that actually do most game story writing).  Another?  Ok, how about "Recursion" by Tony Ballantyne.  Both stories get into the whole thing with nano assemblers, disassemblers, ressurrection, body backups, etc.  Automatically flows from nanotech of this type.

[Alyka]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Not everyone bothers with twitter. Frankly, I don't have the time nor interest to follow twitter, at all. They should've put the same report in ME3 news in game. I was left wonder WTF until someone mentioned it on here awhile back and then was still like WTF?

Same.
I just don't understand why they didn't post it here on BSN so that, more people have access to that information.
Or, at best, had Allers make a comment on Wong's death in the game.A tweet about something that is canon comes off as being shabby and lazy in my opinion.

[AlanC9]

AdamJenson wrote...
If you want to see a full story based upon this speculation then read "Glasshouse" by Charles Stross (ever heard of him?

Hell, I've got Accelerando on my Nook right now. Stross is giving the ebook version away on his website.

But when you're saying this actually is happening in the ME universe..... that's just nonsense, right?

I can see setting an RPG in such a universe. Not from Bio, though -- too many dramatic tropes won't work.

[Cyne]

CrystalCircuit wrote...

Absolutely not. At the very least they should have had something about it in the actual game.

Exactly. And codex deaths/events should not count either.

[Cyne]

Then again, if the developers had no intention of providing in-game content, I guess a codex or twitter message is better than nothing.

[Apocaleepse360]

Two words: Hell. No.

We all know that Emily Wong "died" just to hastily make way for Diana Allers.

I have high hopes to see her return in the extended cut. Imagine being able to choose to take her with you instead of Allers... I think I'd be able to overlook the rest of the game's flaws (excluding the ending).