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[Doctor Uburian]

Well, i didn't realice that Emily Wong was "dead" until i completed the game, so, absolutely no.

[Darth Malice113]

Doctor Uburian wrote...

Well, i didn't realice that Emily Wong was "dead" until i completed the game, so, absolutely no.

Yeah if they were hell bent on killing her of they could have used Allers to report on it in the game or something like that.

You got email news alerts on the Normandy informing you about Kal Reeger and Rana Thanoptis.

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

That does even make sense.

Here is why.

Before a comicbook gets published they outline the story. So the graphic artists know what to draw, the dialog people know what to right. It's not just some guy putting in words. Before all that happens there is a budget and severel(if not more) production meetings. It's not anarchy. Once the comic is complete they have to get it published. That costs money. If all that is sqaured away then it goes to the publisher.

Keep in mind they are budgetet for X amount of copies, and these must be sold and shipped to those that specialize in selling  these items.

That's a fairly simple example of how publications get produced and sold.

So how is the word  bubble thing and typing up something quick on twitter the same thing again?

There was clearly an outline written with dialogue before the Emily Wong live Reaper coverage. Which isn't just some guy putting in words. Which means meetings. Which cost money. it's not anarchy.

Are you saying that because a comic has pictures and gets shipped is what makes it more valid as a medium?

[bennyjammin79]

Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

*snip

Your a,b,c reasons still all came down to not liking it and not anything beyond that. And I snipped you again. U mad bro?

[Darth Malice113]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

That does even make sense.

Here is why.

Before a comicbook gets published they outline the story. So the graphic artists know what to draw, the dialog people know what to right. It's not just some guy putting in words. Before all that happens there is a budget and severel(if not more) production meetings. It's not anarchy. Once the comic is complete they have to get it published. That costs money. If all that is sqaured away then it goes to the publisher.

Keep in mind they are budgetet for X amount of copies, and these must be sold and shipped to those that specialize in selling  these items.

That's a fairly simple example of how publications get produced and sold.

So how is the word  bubble thing and typing up something quick on twitter the same thing again?

There was clearly an outline written with dialogue before the Emily Wong live Reaper coverage. Which isn't just some guy putting in words. Which means meetings. Which cost money. it's not anarchy.

Are you saying that because a comic has pictures and gets shipped is what makes it more valid as a medium?

Yes.

Any fool can type anything into twitter.  It's essentially instant messeging broadcast everywhere.

Actually putting a publication into production is alittle more involved.

I swear, many a great literary professers are rolling over in their graves.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

I'm just going to keep posting this until somebody can answer me:

Basically what I'm seeing here is that since people didn't have Twitter, Emily Wong should be alive. What about those who don't have the books or the comics? What makes Twitter any less a valid candidate as a medium than books or comics?

Somebody please, please, PLEASE explain this to me.

Because none of the characters killed in the comics and novels were actually in the games, or even mentioned in the games,  IIRC only Greyson was mentioned briefly in Mass Effect 3. 

 

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Yes.

Any fool can type anything into twitter.  It's essentially instant messeging broadcast everywhere.

Since 'Deception' it's pretty apparent that any fool can write a book too. Oh and proof read it.

Actually putting a publication into production is alittle more involved.

I swear, many a great literary professers are rolling over in their graves.

We're not talking about production values.

[Darth Malice113]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

bennyjammin79 wrote...

I'm just going to keep posting this until somebody can answer me:

Basically what I'm seeing here is that since people didn't have Twitter, Emily Wong should be alive. What about those who don't have the books or the comics? What makes Twitter any less a valid candidate as a medium than books or comics?

Somebody please, please, PLEASE explain this to me.

Because none of the characters killed in the comics and novels were actually in the games, or even mentioned in the games,  IIRC only Greyson was mentioned briefly in Mass Effect 3. 

 

Not entirely true.

Arias Batarian lieutenant was killed off in the comics. I think his name was Anzo?

[Darth Malice113]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Yes.

Any fool can type anything into twitter.  It's essentially instant messeging broadcast everywhere.

Since 'Deception' it's pretty apparent that any fool can write a book too. Oh and proof read it.

Actually putting a publication into production is alittle more involved.

I swear, many a great literary professers are rolling over in their graves.

We're not talking about production values.

Actually we are.

Twitter is effortless. There is no production value.

If storytelling is an artform, should it be effortless?

Modifié par Darth Malice113, 30 mai 2012 - 10:33 .

[incinerator950]

Since when should people care about non-important characters dying off screen? If the Devs say something happening, its Canon.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

bennyjammin79 wrote...

I'm just going to keep posting this until somebody can answer me:

Basically what I'm seeing here is that since people didn't have Twitter, Emily Wong should be alive. What about those who don't have the books or the comics? What makes Twitter any less a valid candidate as a medium than books or comics?

Somebody please, please, PLEASE explain this to me.

Because none of the characters killed in the comics and novels were actually in the games, or even mentioned in the games,  IIRC only Greyson was mentioned briefly in Mass Effect 3. 

 

Not entirely true.

Arias Batarian lieutenant was killed off in the comics. I think his name was Anzo?

Was he even named in Mass Effect 2, I'm sorry but I can't recall but then again Aria has a LOT of batarians working for her.  

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 30 mai 2012 - 10:38 .

[Darth Malice113]

incinerator950 wrote...

Since when should people care about non-important characters dying off screen? If the Devs say something happening, its Canon.

So you would be cool if they removed portions of the game and them tweeted what happened? Or instead of creating story driven DLC, they blog it?

Because  it's canon right?

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Actually we are.

Twitter is effortless. There is no production value.

If storytelling is an artform, should it be effortless?

No we are not.

What you're talking about has very little to do with STORYTELLING.

If Stephen King decided to release his next novel over Twitter, paragraph by paragraph is it somehow less of a story because it didn't get printed, even though he made a rough draft, brought to an editor and then wrote the final copy?

If a band decides to only release their music online is it not music because it's not on a CD? 

Listen to what you're saying. It makes no sense.

[Darth Malice113]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

bennyjammin79 wrote...

I'm just going to keep posting this until somebody can answer me:

Basically what I'm seeing here is that since people didn't have Twitter, Emily Wong should be alive. What about those who don't have the books or the comics? What makes Twitter any less a valid candidate as a medium than books or comics?

Somebody please, please, PLEASE explain this to me.

Because none of the characters killed in the comics and novels were actually in the games, or even mentioned in the games,  IIRC only Greyson was mentioned briefly in Mass Effect 3. 

 

Not entirely true.

Arias Batarian lieutenant was killed off in the comics. I think his name was Anzo?

Was he even named in Mass Effect 2? I can't recall but she has a LOT of batarians working for her.  

It was either Anzo or Anto. He was the one who scanned you when you first meet Aria. And later on if you give Aria the datapad that you find on Garrus's recruitment mission ,she questions why she didn't know about this sooner and thows it at him.

[bennyjammin79]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Because none of the characters killed in the comics and novels were actually in the games, or even mentioned in the games,  IIRC only Greyson was mentioned briefly in Mass Effect 3. 

 

Not entirely true.

Arias Batarian lieutenant was killed off in the comics. I think his name was Anzo?

Was he even named in Mass Effect 2, I'm sorry but I can't recall but then again Aria has a LOT of batarians working for her.  

Yeah it's Anto. You get pretty familiar with him in ME2.

[Darth Malice113]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Actually we are.

Twitter is effortless. There is no production value.

If storytelling is an artform, should it be effortless?

No we are not.

What you're talking about has very little to do with STORYTELLING.

If Stephen King decided to release his next novel over Twitter, paragraph by paragraph is it somehow less of a story because it didn't get printed, even though he made a rough draft, brought to an editor and then wrote the final copy?

If a band decides to only release their music online is it not music because it's not on a CD? 

Listen to what you're saying. It makes no sense.

So bands are releasing their music on twitter now?

And here I thought they'd be using it to promote their creations.
I bet they are recording on twitter now too.

[Nelatherion]

I think Emily Wong's death was handled fantastically and really hyped me up for ME3. It was well done and I got really engaged and I can vouch for several people who felt that way too. Regardless of whether you think it should be canon, it is canon. It is the same for books (except Deception, that sh*t was a bad dream), if it was done by Bioware it is canon. End of.

They are also free to retcon this sort of stuff should they need to.

[samurai crusade]

You know it's funny... After ME2 I remember several Threads about how the Mass Effect galaxy is huge! "why should Shepard run into the same people over and over". Then we get complaints about emails.

I guess it's kinda like how people demanded a new ending and some of those same people are complaining that they ate doing MP dlc and not SP dlc.

Can't win.
I for one, don't mind minor characters being killed off elsewhere. I do read the comics. I also frequent the wiki when I forget or am curious

[Darth Malice113]

Nelatherion wrote...

I think Emily Wong's death was handled fantastically and really hyped me up for ME3. It was well done and I got really engaged and I can vouch for several people who felt that way too. Regardless of whether you think it should be canon, it is canon. It is the same for books (except Deception, that sh*t was a bad dream), if it was done by Bioware it is canon. End of.

They are also free to retcon this sort of stuff should they need to.

It's not that they killed her, that's another issue.

It's just something that should be in the game. It's just beging to be in an ANN broadcast.

Like the Reeger story.

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...


So bands are releasing their music on twitter now?

And here I thought they'd be using it to promote their creations.
I bet they are recording on twitter now too.

Uh huh. Nice try.

Modifié par bennyjammin79, 30 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[Darth Malice113]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...


So bands are releasing their music on twitter now?

And here I thought they'd be using it to promote their creations.
I bet they are recording on twitter now too.

Uh huh. Nice try.

I don't have to "try". You wanted to know the difference between a publication and twitter.

Answer, Twitter is a social media platform, not a publication.

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

I don't have to "try". You wanted to know the difference between a publication and twitter.

Answer, Twitter is a social media platform, not a publication.

Holy sh!t. How closely related are your parents? I did not want to know the difference between a tweet and a publication. Clearly, they are different. I want to know why Twitter isn't a valid medium for storytelling, which you have STILL failed to demonstrate.

[Darth Malice113]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

Darth Malice113 wrote...

I don't have to "try". You wanted to know the difference between a publication and twitter.

Answer, Twitter is a social media platform, not a publication.

Holy sh!t. How closely related are your parents? I did not want to know the difference between a tweet and a publication. Clearly, they are different. I want to know why Twitter isn't a valid medium for storytelling, which you have STILL failed to demonstrate.

Yes you did.

Your first post you asked what was the difference between storytelling on twitter and storytelling from novels and comics. Myself and others explained it.

The differnece being twitter is not a publication.

And once again you stoop to petty insults. REPORTED.

[bennyjammin79]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Yes you did.

Your first post you asked what was the difference between storytelling on twitter and storytelling from novels and comics. Myself and others explained it.

The differnece being twitter is not a publication.

And once again you stoop to petty insults. REPORTED.

No I didn't. My first post can be found on page 1 and it has nothing to do with what your saying. I don't want or need to know what the difference between a story on Twitter and a story in a book. I've wanted to know why Twitter isn't a valid way to tell a story and all you've got is: it isn't published. IT'S STILL STORYTELLING WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

And reported? I thought I was being polite in asking about your family lineage. I just wanted to get to know you better. 

Modifié par bennyjammin79, 30 mai 2012 - 11:19 .

[bennyjammin79]

Doctor Uburian wrote...

Well, i didn't realice that Emily Wong was "dead" until i completed the game, so, absolutely no.

i didn't realize Anderson wasn't councillor anymore, so I absolutely want the books and comics to be made noncanonical too.