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[Leonia]

Add it to the "Why Turians Are Fraking Awesome" list.

[Strict31]

DJCubed wrote...

I dont see what the big deal is. I just got this gun and tried it out, and even cloaked I couldn't one shot mauraders on silver. Now granted I only have the first version of the gun, but still. The very limited ammunition on top of that leaves me not really liking it much at all. Did they already nerf it or is there something I'm missing here? I'm going back to my mantis at least until I get a black widow.

When I first unlocked it against Cerberus on Silver, I decided just for kicks to use it with my Human Engineer. I was really shocked and surprised to see how effective it was. Didn't make me into a biotic god or anything, but those Phantoms could definitely smell my power. It wasn't OHK against anything, but it made fights against Phantoms a bit more evenly matched.

Turn invisible and back flip away from my sights? AoE, b**ch.

But then, I went into a match against Geth on Silver, and suddenly, the effectiveness seemed to drop off. Against Reapers and another match against Geth, the effectiveness wasn't nearly as impressive as that first match. In all of these, I wasn't using an Infiltrator. Used a Turian sentinel for one of those matches, and a Quarian female Engineer for the other.

Mine (I call her Cassandra, because no one truly understands her vision for the future) remains at lvl 1, and I don't know if I was just so giddy to notice the drawbacks in the first match, or if there's something else going on with the weapon.

But while this weapon does have its advantages for non-Infiltrators, I don't yet see it being overpowered.

[ill_eyggro]

I was playing the DLC, but now, after read this, I think I have to go with my girlfriend... there're other things in life

Modifié par ill_eyggro, 30 mai 2012 - 07:21 .

[Sovereign24]

Instead of asking for weapons to be nerfed, why not just nerf the one class that makes all these weapons OP..

Modifié par Sovereign24, 30 mai 2012 - 07:30 .

[RazRei]

Sovereign24 wrote...

Instead of asking for weapons to be nerfed, why not just nerf the one class that makes all these weapons OP..

Because no balance team for any game would be that stupid.

[Tzarakiel]

Dont nerf the gun. it cannot even one shot cannibals on bronze with damage mod

[Sovereign24]

RazRei wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Instead of asking for weapons to be nerfed, why not just nerf the one class that makes all these weapons OP..

Because no balance team for any game would be that stupid.

If I had a choice between having to nerf multiple weapons in order to make them not OP, or depowering the one class that makes all these weapons become OP, I'd think it would be an easy answer.

It wouldn't even have to be a nerf, just a reduction in the damage bonus would be enough.

Modifié par Sovereign24, 30 mai 2012 - 07:36 .

[PolisMassa]

It ruins the whole game, on level x with damage mod..hahaha its silly. remove it please.
Or call the game Krysae effect.

Modifié par PolisMassa, 30 mai 2012 - 07:41 .

[Sovereign24]

As more often than not, the problem is not the damage the weapon does by itself. It's the damage it does when combined with a 90% damage boost plus another 40% sniper rifle boost.

[Kronner]

Sovereign24 wrote...

As more often than not, the problem is not the damage the weapon does by itself. It's the damage it does when combined with a 90% damage boost plus another 40% sniper rifle boost.

No. It owns on any class.

[Zhuinden]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Just got finished running this gun. I don't know what to say. I mean, Infiltrators are already dangerous with sniper rifes and falcon/ shotguns. Now, I don't expect to see any class besides infiltrators with this gun. I...I... seriously. It needs a nerf. It is now my favorite gun, but it needs nerfing.... TODAY!!

This gun is rediculous, 100 wieght with a Kishocks damage, with a falcons AoE range. I read the description, and I can see why turians wouldnt wanna put this on the extranet. I mean really bioware, did you imagine a full team of infiltrators running around with this gun? I didn't even use ammo powers or a rail. Its awesome, but its to much I'm sorry, I can't support this gun...

No.

The gun just came out, some people don't even have it yet.


Also, if anything - if the turians uploaded it to the extranet, why is it rare? 

Modifié par Zhuinden, 30 mai 2012 - 07:49 .

[Thrillskr]

Why do You people get into your heads that we want it nerfed just coz we say so ? Most of us who saved up before DLC and got it up to lvl 10 straight out of the box compare it to guns of its class. And truth is, no sniper rifle is ludacrisly easy to use while being very deadly. Its not about Infiltrator making it super-powerful. As You point out, infils make ALL guns very powerful. You dont see cries for valiant and BW nerfs as much, do You ? Because they have some flaws, while this things has only one - travel time which hurts if you play with a laggy host. Its Op compared to top-tier rifles, not compared to things like mantis or avenger. And people saying 'its an alternative to valiant and BW' really havent seen it in action. Its not an alternative, it makes BW and valiant both look like bb guns shooting bubble gum for ammo. I do sincerely invite anyone saying its not overpowered to play with me (PC, origin id : Thrillskr) and ill show You.

[Gornok]

No... I believe the weapon they got it right... The modified scorpion is wonderful.

[Hackett out]

I'm only gonna say this once, every class of weapons needs a great weapon. It was the black widow for the sniper category now its the krysae. The assault rifle just go the Harrier, which in all fairness that class needed a good weapon.

Any way my point is that if you have at least a few good weapons then when you use the worse weapons its more fun and challenging. If you dont like a certain gun thats fine, dont use it. Let people enjoy the guns the way they were given to us rather than screaming for a nerf, its not even been 24 hours since the dlc dropped. Strap on a pair man ffs.

[X2-Elijah]

After playing a bunch more matches on Gold with this gun at X level (Infiltrator, ofc - so sue me).

Yeeeeah.
Against cerberus this is completely and utterly overpowered.
Against geth and reapers it is "only" about as good as the best sniper rifles in one.

Think about this:
It has damage almost as much as a Widow.
It weights a lot less than most sniper rifles.
It has a 3-bullet magazine, and 39 bulets in reserve!! (At level 10, with a magazine mod - because penetration doesn't work, so you naturally go with damage+magazine upgrades) (Compare THAT to javelin, eh?)
All it's bullets have Stagger + AoE.
It bypasses shieldgate.

Seriously, this gun is like ALL the best sniper rifles put in one, and then boosted in all aspects by a good amount to boot.

Playing with this rifle, as infiltrator, against cerberus, any gold match feels no more difficult than bronze.

Honestly, this is a bit too much. I agree that regular sniper rifles should be powerful - because they require skill to aim to get headshots and so on. This gun? AoE + ton of bullets means you can just explosionspam.

So here's a question - why is this gun so easy to get, powerful, fast, when the "falcon" assault rifle - with bullets almost as strong as this gun's - is so infinitely worse?

Modifié par X2-Elijah, 30 mai 2012 - 07:55 .

[Petrikles]

I got it, used it with my Salarian Infiltrator, and was not impressed. In general, every weapon which cannot penetrate, is inferior. My observations:

- inconsistent damage; sometimes standard mobs exploded on 1st hit, sometimes I needed three shots
- very low damage against Atlas
- good results against fast moving Phantoms
- very difficult for headshots, or no headshot damage bonus
- did not understand the zoom mode, takes some time to zoom in, but for what?

As such, I prefer to stay with my Valiant I. Fast shots, very fast reloads, damage almost on par with a black widow. Nothing beats that.

[Morgax_Warrior]

In order to remain 'competative' i have to dumb down my gameplay (ignoring headshots) and go instead mortar my enemies from far, what a joy.
And yes, i will whine and demand balance for this gun, otherwise give us thresher maw gun so we can wipe out all 11 waves at once

[10bears]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Just got finished running this gun. I don't know what to say. I mean, Infiltrators are already dangerous with sniper rifes and falcon/ shotguns. Now, I don't expect to see any class besides infiltrators with this gun. I...I... seriously. It needs a nerf. It is now my favorite gun, but it needs nerfing.... TODAY!!

This gun is rediculous, 100 wieght with a Kishocks damage, with a falcons AoE range. I read the description, and I can see why turians wouldnt wanna put this on the extranet. I mean really bioware, did you imagine a full team of infiltrators running around with this gun? I didn't even use ammo powers or a rail. Its awesome, but its to much I'm sorry, I can't support this gun...

Then give it back. And leave it for the big boys  

[Lee80]

Ugh, there's way too much complaining on this board. The gun just came out. It's not over powered. Is it powerful yes, but it's not that much stronger then any of the other powerful snipers (black widow, widow, Valiant). Oy. In other good news, I do in fact have it up to x already. For whatever reason my randomizer was all about it. (probably cause I had all my rare guns maxed already) It's quite a nice gun. I just unlocked the new sniper as well, can't wait to try them out together after I give my ps3 a rest...much as I hate to. :-x

[10bears]

Hackett out wrote...

I'm only gonna say this once, every class of weapons needs a great weapon. It was the black widow for the sniper category now its the krysae. The assault rifle just go the Harrier, which in all fairness that class needed a good weapon.

Any way my point is that if you have at least a few good weapons then when you use the worse weapons its more fun and challenging. If you dont like a certain gun thats fine, dont use it. Let people enjoy the guns the way they were given to us rather than screaming for a nerf, its not even been 24 hours since the dlc dropped. Strap on a pair man ffs.

Agree completely

[Meistr_Chef]

What the heck? I only have it at level I and it's nice but not sure if it blows everything out of the water. Also, Tangster's stat sniffing reveals that it's 531 damage/shot at Level I and 664 damage/shot at Level X.

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 30 mai 2012 - 08:22 .

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Meistr_Chef wrote...

What the heck? I only have it at level I and it's nice but not sure if it blows everything out of the water. Also, Tangster's stat sniffing reveals that it's 531 damage/shot at Level I and 664 damage/shot at Level X.

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub

Thats 664 "splash" damage. The gun is AoE.

[Meistr_Chef]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Meistr_Chef wrote...

What the heck? I only have it at level I and it's nice but not sure if it blows everything out of the water. Also, Tangster's stat sniffing reveals that it's 531 damage/shot at Level I and 664 damage/shot at Level X.

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub

Thats 664 "splash" damage. The gun is AoE.

Okay so it doesn't take down big game bosses any quicker.

The small AoE balances out the fact that it's a slow shooting gun. If it didn't have AoE/stagger I wouldn't even look at the damned thing.

Also, before you get too worked up that the gun is going to make all games into Kyrsae fests, why don't you relax a bit and wait and see if it actually happens. Then there's reason to worry if most/all games turn out like that. As you can see, I'm not a fan of hyperbole.

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 30 mai 2012 - 09:38 .

[Dynamik78]

yeah OP man just stop it...your post has no sense (at least not yet)

Modifié par Dynamik78, 30 mai 2012 - 09:36 .

[Josh.de]

I´ve tried this gun out on gold vs reapers, geth and cerberus, have this at lvl x, didn´t like it, since it has like no or minor effect on armored targets.

For me this is just one more gun in my sniper rifle section/class.

The type how it shoots and not beeing able to shoot without scope is annoying like @#$% - first, I died several times while aiming out of cover  

It kills stuff, but for me unusable, not really an all-around weapon.
Ugly looking animation when enemies explode as well, avoiding it at all, if people like it, it´s fine too