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Krysae Sniper Rifle X Ner...Balance.... Please?


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#101
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BrotherWarth wrote...

WTF? The gun has been available for a few hours and you not only already apparently have it level X but you're already calling for it to be nerfed?

GTFO.


Getting a new rare up to level 10 is really easy if you have all the other rares up to level 10.

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Actually the description says the turians dd release it on the extranet. They did want people to use it. Also the gun is only been out for a few hours and you have it at level x. You need to use the gun for more than one game to see how good it really. Just GTFO.

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Kronner wrote...

The Reegar **** is even more OP.


The reegar has like no range though. Not saying its bad but that balances it out well.

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StrawHatMoose wrote...

Kronner wrote...

The Reegar **** is even more OP.


The reegar has like no range though. Not saying its bad but that balances it out well.


perfect for a inf melee specced and a krogan

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well we got the numbers from tangster already
https://docs.google....bWc&output=html

it does a bit more damage per shot than an equally ranked black widow.
Of course it's explosive rounds, with a bit of delay.
No penetration, probably no headshots.
Slightly slower rate of fire.
lighter gun, weaker scope (which is a good thing)
And most importantly, AOE

Based on the numbers it SHOULD be able to kill unshielded infantry in single shots based on the numbers.
Not gonna jump to any conclusions til I get my gun to rank X and try it out myself.
So I'm gonna ask players who have it, does the krysae actually seem to do black widow damage on its AOE?

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Sabbatine wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

WTF? The gun has been available for a few hours and you not only already apparently have it level X but you're already calling for it to be nerfed?

GTFO.


Getting a new rare up to level 10 is really easy if you have all the other rares up to level 10.


I got 9 PSP today and the Krysae is level 9.  I got Krysae in every pack.  

Modifié par KentGoldings, 29 mai 2012 - 11:58 .


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5 pages and no ones mentioned the fact that it ignores shield gate.

This gun is amazing, the only issue I have with it is that it suffers from the same issue all projectile based weapons suffer from, if your not the host shots will randomly not connect, though it didn't seem to suffer as much as other weapons like the Falcon and GPS.

Coupled with a Male Quarian Infiltrator with Tactical Scan, this thing can take down a Prime and an Atlas lickety split

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BoomDynamite wrote...

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NO. We already lost the Kishock...

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Grimy Bunyip wrote...

well we got the numbers from tangster already
https://docs.google....bWc&output=html

it does a bit more damage per shot than an equally ranked black widow.
Of course it's explosive rounds, with a bit of delay.
No penetration, probably no headshots.
Slightly slower rate of fire.
lighter gun, weaker scope (which is a good thing)
And most importantly, AOE

Based on the numbers it SHOULD be able to kill unshielded infantry in single shots based on the numbers.
Not gonna jump to any conclusions til I get my gun to rank X and try it out myself.
So I'm gonna ask players who have it, does the krysae actually seem to do black widow damage on its AOE?

THis is the main issue I'm having with this gun. I shoot 1 enemy in a group, I get a triple kill as long as they don't have shields. Just played all my new races/classes with the gun. I don't need to say balance the gun out, its going to happen eventually, once EVERYONE starts using it. I played a game on VORCHA soldier with this gun. Maxed out weapon damage in abilities, no rail or ammo. (Don't use equipment in pubs). I was shooting a banshee that happend to be in a mix of enemies earlier.  ALL my shots were to kill the banshee, I always prioritize bosses. One of the guys in the game said "dam ronnie" over the mic. I was just watching crap scroll

Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Brute
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Cannibal
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Cannibal
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Ravager
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Swarmer x4
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Brute
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Marauder
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Marauder
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Cannibal
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Banshee
Ronnie Blastoff [Krysae Sniper Rifle] Swarmer x2

No one else was getting any kills, not saying they weren't shooting the same enemies, but still. The gun is a pocket nuke. I usually hit my targets in the head, banshees included. But since the gun has a slight delay I was getting used to it. I MISSED most of the shots on the banshee and the "rocket" was still hitting her and everything else near by. Its hitting for BW damage in an area effect. Who the hell cares about armor piercing... I'm killing EVERYTHING. I GOT A DAM NUKE....
I even got into the habit of shooting objects behind enemies because the splash damage is so big I still drop them.

PsychoXR-20 wrote...

5 pages and no ones mentioned the fact that it ignores shield gate.

Yeah did I mention wtf is a shield gate? Common man, everyone saying shutup needs to test this gun out before they accuse me of anything.

Modifié par Ronnie Blastoff, 30 mai 2012 - 12:09 .


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for crying out...

ITS BASICALLY USELESS IF YOU HAVE A TERRIBLE HOST AND YOU WANT TO NERF IT?!

maybe slightly less damage than the BW and thats it.

you are a terrible person for even considering this kind of BS

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I tested this thing out on Gold Reapers with Quarian Male Infiltrator.
6/6/6/5/3
TC - Damage, Recharge, Sniper
TScan- Weapon Damage, Movement Speed, Damage
Arc - Damage, Max Grenade, Armor-Piercing
Racial - Weapon Damage, Headshot (not valid for Krysae but irrelevant)
Fitness - 3

With Tac Scan, Cloaked Krysae X shots were doing 1/3 of a Banshee's Armor on Gold. Kills just about everything in 2/3 shots (though Armor targets need Tac Scan). This thing is absurdly powerful. The fact that it fires projectiles and can't pierce cover isn't as huge of a downfall as it may seem. Salarian and Geth can emulate Tac Scan with Prox Mine as well.

Modifié par Edalborez, 30 mai 2012 - 12:07 .


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Yes, I would much rather wipe on gold than have to play with someone using a better weapon than me.

Modifié par Lolki, 30 mai 2012 - 12:12 .


#113
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Just used my Kyrasae X. I love this gun. It will always be used with my Turian Sentinel. Always.

NEVER NERF IT!

The Turians really made an awesome gun. Makes me proud to be a Turian fanboy. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 30 mai 2012 - 12:17 .


#114
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AP ammo and mods don't work on it.

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X2-Elijah wrote...

Idk. It is powerful, yes - I'd say it is just as good as a black widow half it's rank, on the whole.

There are a bunch of annoyances with this.
1) Sometimes it seems like shooting an Atlas has almost no effect.
2) The AoE is extremely small - aiming at ground/feet to blow stuff up rarely works if you don't land it *on* their feet.
3) No penetration at all.. That's pretty horrible, tbh.
4) You CANNOT get headshots, and you CANNOT shoot weakspots off an atlas, for example.
5) The Bullets are SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... --- ...OOOOW. Seriously. If it is on the move, you have to lead and pray, basically.


Overall? It is a good sni.. No, wait.

It is NOT a sniper rifle. It is a good bazooka with a scope. But it's not a sniper.


Yeah the AOE has about a 2 foot range. I fired it into two pyros and two hunters and only even damaged two. And it only has a 3 round clip which helps balance it significantly IMO. Having to reload so often takes the wind out of your explosive sails. And even on silver it takes at least two shots to kill anything with protection.

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Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Just got finished running this gun. I don't know what to say. I mean, Infiltrators are already dangerous with sniper rifes and falcon/ shotguns. Now, I don't expect to see any class besides infiltrators with this gun. I...I... seriously. It needs a nerf. It is now my favorite gun, but it needs nerfing.... TODAY!!

This gun is rediculous, 100 wieght with a Kishocks damage, with a falcons AoE range. I read the description, and I can see why turians wouldnt wanna put this on the extranet. I mean really bioware, did you imagine a full team of infiltrators running around with this gun? I didn't even use ammo powers or a rail. :unsure: Its awesome, but its to much I'm sorry, I can't support this gun...


It's fine at X. No nerf necessary

#117
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I got it at 8 and don't think it is all too powerfull, more then once i had to switch to my revenant to stay alive, guardians are kind of a failsafe against it and armored enemys seem to laugh about it for some odd reason

I think it is quite fine, i dish out the same punishment i do with the revenant tho not as effective against mobs as you want to make us believe, the aoe is not that big (i know because i tried, if you want to kill something you still got to hit it)

Heck i even heard a few times this gun would suck

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dabull1014 wrote...

X2-Elijah wrote...

Idk. It is powerful, yes - I'd say it is just as good as a black widow half it's rank, on the whole.

There are a bunch of annoyances with this.
1) Sometimes it seems like shooting an Atlas has almost no effect.
2) The AoE is extremely small - aiming at ground/feet to blow stuff up rarely works if you don't land it *on* their feet.
3) No penetration at all.. That's pretty horrible, tbh.
4) You CANNOT get headshots, and you CANNOT shoot weakspots off an atlas, for example.
5) The Bullets are SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... --- ...OOOOW. Seriously. If it is on the move, you have to lead and pray, basically.


Overall? It is a good sni.. No, wait.

It is NOT a sniper rifle. It is a good bazooka with a scope. But it's not a sniper.


Yeah the AOE has about a 2 foot range. I fired it into two pyros and two hunters and only even damaged two. And it only has a 3 round clip which helps balance it significantly IMO. Having to reload so often takes the wind out of your explosive sails. And even on silver it takes at least two shots to kill anything with protection.


Does the explosion get larger when you charge the shot? 

#119
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Might as well nerf the BW because it takes less then 3 shots to kill enemies hey she should also nerf the cobra missile since it kills a lot of enemies in one missile. Seriously though its fine the way it is.

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It's a weapon ideal to take out the masses of infantry from any range and it's definately got the fun factor. However I can see why there are mixed responses because it does seem a bit like a noobstick.

It's got tracking, AoE, hit's even when missed, has a scope or can be used without scoping and can still be effective, but it only has 3 shots and slow reload which keeps it in check. Avid snipers would probably not use this gun because it's not made for headshots. I see it ideal for soldiers although any class would find it useful.

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An AOE that does more damage than a Black Widow (an ultra-rare)? Yeah, sorry, needs to be rebalanced.

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I'll be honest, I was using it at level 3 thinking it was massively OP. It will be nerfed - there's no doubt about that.

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I have level IX and I disagree. It's very spectacular to use. But, the rate if fire makes it less than a super weapon. Although, with Inferno III ammo it was sorta awesome.

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Taritu wrote...

An AOE that does more damage than a Black Widow (an ultra-rare)? Yeah, sorry, needs to be rebalanced.

we don't know for sure if htat's how it works.
remember there are weapons whose stats are misleading until more research is done.

like bleed damage on the kishok.
or GPS, or graal.

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Grimy Bunyip wrote...

Taritu wrote...

An AOE that does more damage than a Black Widow (an ultra-rare)? Yeah, sorry, needs to be rebalanced.

we don't know for sure if htat's how it works.
remember there are weapons whose stats are misleading until more research is done.

like bleed damage on the kishok.
or GPS, or graal.


I've used the gun in game - it works exactly like that. Requires no skill at all. Has a 3 shot clip, and I would just shoot the ground near enemies and blow them up. Way OP - needs to be nerfed.

Think of a scorpion that had less delay on explosions, more accuracy, a scope and about 2.5 times the damage. Yea, it's really that powerful.

Modifié par BlackDahlia424, 30 mai 2012 - 12:58 .