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[Thrillskr]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I've used the gun in game - it works exactly like that. Requires no skill at all. Has a 3 shot clip, and I would just shoot the ground near enemies and blow them up. Way OP - needs to be nerfed.

Think of a scorpion that had less delay on explosions, more accuracy, a scope and about 2.5 times the damage. Yea, it's really that powerful.

This. Ive switched to it from valiant, and this thing is an absolute joke. With GI its stupidly effortless, and its proxy-explosion means you dont even need to aim that wall, its still going to hit. Nothing gives that thing a pause, phantoms die in 1 shot + proxy mine (or 2 shots), and you dont even have to hit them directly. Banshees are no issue at all, nor are brutes, ravagers or anything else in fact. One thing that takes longer to kill is atlas, and these things are no threat whatsoever so you can kill everything else and ignore it. People who say it doesnt need a nerf should get their heads examined or better yet, USE IT FIRST AND SEE. Or better yet, join someone who can use it and cry when he takes ALL the kills and outscores everyone else by good 50k points.

[Kastrenzo]

Is it just me, or do people complain about nerfing stuff just because they are
A - Jealous that someone has a gun that they do not
Or
B - Jealous that someone is getting more points than them in a co-op videogame.

I don't even like the Krysae, and I'm baffled by this whining for nerfing.

I used to complain about people abusing the Sabre all the time, then I got it, and realized that it only worked well if you used it in a specific way, it wasn't OP at all

Modifié par Kastrenzo, 30 mai 2012 - 01:39 .

[Clayless]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

This is why we can't have nice things.

[KentGoldings]

I used the Krysae for several matches both bronze and silver. The scoring was not inconsistant with other matches without it. I think it's the big boom and gibblets that make people think it's over-powered. But, often I had to switch to my SMG because it killed things faster.

[Atheosis]

As far as I can tell the Kyrsae only really owns when used on an Infiltrator. On other classes it's merely adequate to good. So if anything is OPed it's Infiltrators, as if that were news.

[Atheosis]

Thrillskr wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I've used the gun in game - it works exactly like that. Requires no skill at all. Has a 3 shot clip, and I would just shoot the ground near enemies and blow them up. Way OP - needs to be nerfed.

Think of a scorpion that had less delay on explosions, more accuracy, a scope and about 2.5 times the damage. Yea, it's really that powerful.

This. Ive switched to it from valiant, and this thing is an absolute joke. With GI its stupidly effortless, and its proxy-explosion means you dont even need to aim that wall, its still going to hit. Nothing gives that thing a pause, phantoms die in 1 shot + proxy mine (or 2 shots), and you dont even have to hit them directly. Banshees are no issue at all, nor are brutes, ravagers or anything else in fact. One thing that takes longer to kill is atlas, and these things are no threat whatsoever so you can kill everything else and ignore it. People who say it doesnt need a nerf should get their heads examined or better yet, USE IT FIRST AND SEE. Or better yet, join someone who can use it and cry when he takes ALL the kills and outscores everyone else by good 50k points.

Your testing methods are a joke.  Try it on a non-overpowered class before declaring it overpowered. 

[IronRush]

Definetly not overpower.
I run 2 golds right now with it.
Good area damage, no penetration, good to setup explosions, but direct damage is not so great.
Clip is very small.
I like cos is a different feeling. Like falcon, like Talon, like Crusader.
Do not need a nerf for sure. Good weapon like all from the new DLC.

[IronRush]

KentGoldings wrote...

I used the Krysae for several matches both bronze and silver. The scoring was not inconsistant with other matches without it. I think it's the big boom and gibblets that make people think it's over-powered. But, often I had to switch to my SMG because it killed things faster.

Only level fine to evaluate is gold.
Bronze all weapons is overpowered with good builds.

[Apl_Juice]

Really? Its been available for only 6 hours.

Jesus.

[Grimy Bunyip]

I've been experimenting now that i have a krysae X.

Will get more data later.
Definitely has the POTENTIAL to deal as much damage to a single target than a black widow round.

seems to deal less damage if you don't land the hit close enough
seems to deal reduced damage to shields

will need further testing.

50 RoF according to tangster's numbers, meaning all 3 shots can be put inside a cloak window without resorting to any fancy tricks

[OblivionDawn]

Confirming that OP is delusional.

[KentGoldings]

Atheosis wrote...

As far as I can tell the Kyrsae only really owns when used on an Infiltrator. On other classes it's merely adequate to good. So if anything is OPed it's Infiltrators, as if that were news.

I used it on a Human Soldier. The AR gave it a nice damage boost as well as instant reload. Nothing close to the TC bonus though. 

[holdenagincourt]

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

I've been experimenting now that i have a krysae X.

Will get more data later.
Definitely has the POTENTIAL to deal as much damage to a single target than a black widow round.

seems to deal less damage if you don't land the hit close enough
seems to deal reduced damage to shields

will need further testing.

50 RoF according to tangster's numbers, meaning all 3 shots can be put inside a cloak window without resorting to any fancy tricks

Your speech patterns confirm that you are, in fact, a Salarian.

*is scared yet also excited*

[robarcool]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

This is why we can't have nice things.

I saw your post and then your avatar. I loled.

[Zkyire]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Just got finished running this gun. I don't know what to say. I mean, Infiltrators are already dangerous with sniper rifes and falcon/ shotguns. Now, I don't expect to see any class besides infiltrators with this gun. I...I... seriously. It needs a nerf. It is now my favorite gun, but it needs nerfing.... TODAY!!

This gun is rediculous, 100 wieght with a Kishocks damage, with a falcons AoE range. I read the description, and I can see why turians wouldnt wanna put this on the extranet. I mean really bioware, did you imagine a full team of infiltrators running around with this gun? I didn't even use ammo powers or a rail. Its awesome, but its to much I'm sorry, I can't support this gun...

The DLC has only been live for a few hours and you already have a Level X Kyrsae?

As for the gun, yes the AoE damage is incredible, but it basically has no armour piercing capability. Try emptying an entire clip at a Guardian and watch how it does absolutely nothing.

Modifié par Zkyire, 30 mai 2012 - 02:12 .

[Atheosis]

Seriously people, stop treating this gun like it's an Infiltrator exclusive. All we are seeing with your examples is how overpowered Infiltrators are. The issue is not the Kyrsae, it's the class you are using.

The Kyrsae is a good gun. We need good guns in this game. If anything needs to be nerfed it's Infiltrators. Calling for a nerf to the Kyrsae makes you look stupid honestly.

[Atheosis]

KentGoldings wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

As far as I can tell the Kyrsae only really owns when used on an Infiltrator. On other classes it's merely adequate to good. So if anything is OPed it's Infiltrators, as if that were news.

I used it on a Human Soldier. The AR gave it a nice damage boost as well as instant reload. Nothing close to the TC bonus though. 

Exactly.  The issue is that people are using it in conjuction with Tactical Cloak, Proximity Mine, Energy Drain, and Hunter Mode, then calling for a nerf to the gun rather than all those broken powers.  So silly...

Modifié par Atheosis, 30 mai 2012 - 02:14 .

[Konane117]

Ares Caesar wrote...

It seems to suffer MASSIVELY when used on boss enemies like Primes and Atlas, when firing at maximum rate of fire the second or third shot often seems to deal zero damage despite showing a projectile being shot.

It works great on all infantry/humanoid units. Here is where its perhaps "overpowered"...

*IF* it gets "nerfed" they need to fix the "disappearing shots" cr@p that screws it over for boss targets. On Gold I couldnt imagine trying to use it because of the high number of Atlas and Primes on the later waves. Damage decrease is fine WHEN they fix the shots disappearing EVEN AS HOST THIS OCCURS.

Sorry, but for now it doesnt need any nerfs because of the bugs involved with the weapon.

^^^ THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

takes FOREVER to kill bosses. my index finger started gettting cramps from constantly pressing the left mouse button.

[neteng101]

Stop it with the nerfs period. Infiltrators are just fine... I'm not even very good at playing one and don't score well with it.

That said, as much as I like the Krysae, it looks like unlocking BW I and BW II in packs today is even better to me. BW II > Krysae X, no lag and nice headshots, no problems with Guardians. Do like the zoom on the Krysae though.

[Grimy Bunyip]

update:

Will get more data later.
the krysae DOES do more damage per shot than an equally ranked black widow, or at least it has the potential to do so.

It seems to deal less damage if you don't land the hit close enough
it seems to deal reduced damage to shields
it can pierce shield gate but I'm not sure if its ability to do so is consistent.
I believe shield gate piercing only occurs on direct hits, but not if you hit with the splash.

50
RoF according to tangster's numbers, meaning all 3 shots can be put
inside a cloak window without resorting to any fancy tricks

[FreeshootXiggy]

Thrillskr wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I've used the gun in game - it works exactly like that. Requires no skill at all. Has a 3 shot clip, and I would just shoot the ground near enemies and blow them up. Way OP - needs to be nerfed.

Think of a scorpion that had less delay on explosions, more accuracy, a scope and about 2.5 times the damage. Yea, it's really that powerful.

This. Ive switched to it from valiant, and this thing is an absolute joke. With GI its stupidly effortless, and its proxy-explosion means you dont even need to aim that wall, its still going to hit. Nothing gives that thing a pause, phantoms die in 1 shot + proxy mine (or 2 shots), and you dont even have to hit them directly. Banshees are no issue at all, nor are brutes, ravagers or anything else in fact. One thing that takes longer to kill is atlas, and these things are no threat whatsoever so you can kill everything else and ignore it. People who say it doesnt need a nerf should get their heads examined or better yet, USE IT FIRST AND SEE. Or better yet, join someone who can use it and cry when he takes ALL the kills and outscores everyone else by good 50k points.

Anyone who cries about nerfing a gun for  co-op multiplayer because of outscoring needs to go the hell back to Call of Duty.

[Zkyire]

It's the Infiltrator's TC damage bonus + sniper rifle damage bonus that makes it ridiculously OP.

But that's the Infiltrator. Not the gun.

Give it to anyone else and it's not Godly, but decent.

[Deebo305]

Buff it Bioware!Buff it hard!

[Drummernate]

At level 1 it can one shot troopers sometimes... now that it is like level 5 or 6 it can easily one shot stuff and can 3 shot Phantoms.

The damage on it is totally random though, direct shots will do 3 bars, and a splash damage will do like 12....

[Creakazoid]

On paper, the stats indicate that an easily attainable Krysae X will out-DPS a low-level Valiant.