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BlackDahlia424

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Stardusk wrote...

Harrier is pretty bad for most classes, maybe on a Geth ot Turian it would be good.


???

I don't understand why everyone is all about the "LuLZ turIAN soldier" for every fully-automatic weapon in the game. It has literally NO recoil at all, fires perfectly straight and accurate, and deals about the same damage as a Revenant X at level I. It's easily the best AR in the game - not even close.

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jamesfrom818

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Just got a PSP with two Harriers in it. Score!

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thesnake777 wrote...

Revenant is worthless on the higher difficulties....I'm still trying to find a decent AR for my Solider class....I was using the avenger but Its no good on gold.
Any suggestions?


WHAT? Revenant IS a good weapon on Gold. Put a stability mod into it, equip Stability III, AP III, AR III and you get a beast.

I use it on Turians, Krogan Soldier and Asari Justicar on Gold and it is good. 

Back to the topic. Harrier is a very good weapon, good punch, good recoil/muzzle climb, the only disadvantage is the small thermal clip capacity. But altogether it is an assault rifle that actally behave as an assault rifle should.

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Harrier is amazing, I've been playing with it all day and it is by far my favorite weapon from this pack and was very much needed to redeem how sad assault rifles are.

Now to the above poster the thing about the revenant is without all those equipment pieces its weak... in fact they are pretty much needed to make it viable at all.

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too bad its ultra...damn bioware...

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Saber is better... in almost every way other than fire rate.

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Striker and Falcon are awesome

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I unlocked it and used it for a game now on the geth engineer.

I wasn't amazed. It was pretty good but the ammo capacity and spare ammo is way too low. I was using piercing and barrel though, definately taking extended clip next time.

Still, I was a lot less effective then when I'm using a GPS or a falcon, or compared to the round before when I was using the crysae. On paper the hurricane looks better(I don't have it) but I huess the harrier is much better at range.

My opinion after playing one game: pretty good gun, better than the other automatic assault rifles and the mattock. Definately not overpowered, seems pretty balanced. This is how the automatics should have been all along imo.

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Exodus2000 wrote...

too bad its ultra...damn bioware...


Its powerful, and awesome. It deserves to be Ultra. 

Reegar gun, and the Turian Rocket Launcher deserve to be Ultra too imo. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 30 mai 2012 - 02:48 .


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Slimjim0725 wrote...


@vonSlash: Krysae X with Sniper Amp 3 using Male Quarian Infiltrator was 2-3 shotting Phantoms on gold with tactcal cloak (sniper rifle bonus rank 6). Not sure why you think it should be stronger.


Link me that person's manifest Xing new weapons the day they open?:?

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BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Harrier is pretty bad for most classes, maybe on a Geth ot Turian it would be good.


???

I don't understand why everyone is all about the "LuLZ turIAN soldier" for every fully-automatic weapon in the game. It has literally NO recoil at all, fires perfectly straight and accurate, and deals about the same damage as a Revenant X at level I. It's easily the best AR in the game - not even close.


It's because of Marksman's +70% rate of fire bonus. Though it makes you reload more, it's roughly 1.7X damage to automatic weapons, and this is a bonus flat multiplied by all your other passives; in almost all cases, it's all additive, IE +50% on Adrenaline Rush isn't 1.5X your damage, it's more like 1.3X damage after calculations are made. I think the calculations of his damage in Marksman are something like 221% damage without headshots or Proximity Mine's bonus, which no other non-Infiltrator can reach. The accuracy and headshot bonuses for Marksman are just icing on the case.

Outside of Infiltrators, specifically the unholy Geth Infiltrator, the Turian Soldier basically is the best wielder of automatic weapons, because of stability bonuses, Marksman, and Proximity Mines depending on the situation ...

Modifié par Amano Kazumi, 30 mai 2012 - 02:53 .


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fallingseraph wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...


@vonSlash: Krysae X with Sniper Amp 3 using Male Quarian Infiltrator was 2-3 shotting Phantoms on gold with tactcal cloak (sniper rifle bonus rank 6). Not sure why you think it should be stronger.


Link me that person's manifest Xing new weapons the day they open?:?


I have them at V and VIII.... I didn't even save up any cash before the DLC.

It is not hard at all to max them out.

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Harrier looks better.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Exodus2000 wrote...

too bad its ultra...damn bioware...


Its powerful, and awesome. It deserves to be Ultra. 

Reegar gun, and the Turian Rocket Launcher deserve to be Ultra too imo. 


Maybe but ultra rares are too damn hard to unlock, even for someone like myself who plays and beats gold a lot.

For almost everyone making them all ultra rare would be extremely frustrating. 1 is more than enough imo

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revizion wrote...

Eh. I had mixed results until I got it up around 6 or 7. But this one does nearly the same damage w/ a much higher ROF (unless you have a turbo controller or something)


Harrier has higher damage than the original Mattock!

Slightly higher ROF than the Mattocks maximum possible ROF.
So damn, it really seems awesome!
And it is only slightly hevier than the original!

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revizion wrote...

 Welp. I got it on my first post-DLC PSP.
You can jealous me now :ph34r::wizard::devil:


Same here, and got it with the indra. first time EVER getting an ultra rare in a psp...and i got two!!

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The harrier is neh. Not enough ammo. Turian soldier with marksman can empty the entire thing in less than 30 seconds.

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fallingseraph wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...


@vonSlash: Krysae X with Sniper Amp 3 using Male Quarian Infiltrator was 2-3 shotting Phantoms on gold with tactcal cloak (sniper rifle bonus rank 6). Not sure why you think it should be stronger.


Link me that person's manifest Xing new weapons the day they open?:?


I played a few games around noon today and some guys already had the new guns up at rank 7 and 8.:mellow:

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thesnake777 wrote...

Revenant is worthless on the higher difficulties....I'm still trying to find a decent AR for my Solider class....I was using the avenger but Its no good on gold.
Any suggestions?


A Turian Soldier with Rev can destroy everything pretty big time.

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Stardusk wrote...

Harrier is pretty bad for most classes, maybe on a Geth ot Turian it would be good.


That's what I thought but Marksman's RoF increase makes the gun kick so much that no body can control it if you hold the trigger down.

I dont know if you PC fellas could work around that, but even on the max sensitivity setting on the xbox, I couldnt hit anything with Marksman Harrier.

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Fingertrip wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

Revenant is worthless on the higher difficulties....I'm still trying to find a decent AR for my Solider class....I was using the avenger but Its no good on gold.
Any suggestions?


A Turian Soldier with Rev can destroy everything pretty big time.


Human Soldier, Revenant V, Stability Damp V, Armor Piercing V.
6/3/6/6/5
Rips through armor like its not there, shields fall near instantly, and grenades take care of everything i'm too lazy to finish off.

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spent 3,5 millions last night. got everything but no harrier yet :(

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GiroX- wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Harrier is pretty bad for most classes, maybe on a Geth ot Turian it would be good.


That's what I thought but Marksman's RoF increase makes the gun kick so much that no body can control it if you hold the trigger down.


I don't know what gun you were using, but the harrier has near 0 recoil.

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I am going to have to disagree with your statement and i will fully accept that alot of what makes a weapon so good is the skill of the user. Here is my manifest link http://social.biowar...lay=multiplayer

So you can see what i have and do not have. I will also admit that i have a few holes and some weapons that need upgrading the M-99 is my greatest score to date next to my first Asari who is an adept class. So when i say what i am about to say it is entirely based upon what i have access to and the ability to demonstrate proficiency with the weapon, user results may vary.

I use a M-99 and IMHO it is the best weapon i have used to date. I have the reach and the accuracy of a sniper with out the narrowing of my view as with a scoped sniper. I have the ability to stagger most targets including phantoms. Nothing more satisfying than turning a Geth Pyro off mid flame as i slap that melon around. Nothing more satisfying than reaching out across the map and one shotting a cannibal, and his 5 or 6 buddies in tow, knowing that the other cannibals will stop in the shot attempting to armor up. The weapon is a bit on the heavy side but my Asari Adept carries one and i am in the blue 33% weight wise so long as i only carry it i get a bonus time to my powers. I have 8 rounds and each one is more than most targets can handle. I get 5 full clips in each load out for a total or 40 rounds. On average it is about 20 kills per load out.

The way this weapon works to greatest effect is fire from cover your accuracy is greater not much difference there. The first round just has to be centermass for the stagger efect, or in the case of a centurion the stagger roll effect. The second round to the melon and you need a new enemy because i just broke the last one. Plus as a bonus the weapon when fired sounds like a grenade just went off next to your ear. The BANG sheeeeeeeegooonk as the action cycles, means something just died.

I realize my opinion may change as i unlock more weapons in the future but even wityh everything i have in my manifest, and some of it is really cool stuff, i still love my reliable hard hitting accurate dealer of death so while i waited for almost 3 weeks to get my first Asari, Bioware did me a solid by allowing me to get one of these weapons early.

M-99 FTW, anything less any you might not make it out alive. Posted Image

M-99, when you absolutely positively have to kill every MFer on the map accept no substitutes. Posted Image

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Amano Kazumi wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Harrier is pretty bad for most classes, maybe on a Geth ot Turian it would be good.


???

I don't understand why everyone is all about the "LuLZ turIAN soldier" for every fully-automatic weapon in the game. It has literally NO recoil at all, fires perfectly straight and accurate, and deals about the same damage as a Revenant X at level I. It's easily the best AR in the game - not even close.


It's because of Marksman's +70% rate of fire bonus. Though it makes you reload more, it's roughly 1.7X damage to automatic weapons, and this is a bonus flat multiplied by all your other passives; in almost all cases, it's all additive, IE +50% on Adrenaline Rush isn't 1.5X your damage, it's more like 1.3X damage after calculations are made. I think the calculations of his damage in Marksman are something like 221% damage without headshots or Proximity Mine's bonus, which no other non-Infiltrator can reach. The accuracy and headshot bonuses for Marksman are just icing on the case.

Outside of Infiltrators, specifically the unholy Geth Infiltrator, the Turian Soldier basically is the best wielder of automatic weapons, because of stability bonuses, Marksman, and Proximity Mines depending on the situation ...


I know what Marksman does, but I'm moreso speaking about the Turian stability passives. You don't need a turian to use this weapon.