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[BloodsongVengeance]

heyas;

  having a devil of a time with this one.  after barely surviving the broodmother, and the fool giant trap thing, now i'm stuck with barely any health potions, no lyrium, and five golems kicking my butt.  and im playing on EASY!  gawd.

party: me (archer), alistair, oghren, wynne

  i have figured out how to swipe/guard the lyrium deposits before the boss snags them, but still not surviving, here.


  also, is there a general strategy for conserving stamina/mana?  i get less than 1/4 of the way through a big boss battle and everybody is out of energy and can't do crap.  its especially bad when wynne cant use her revive later in the battle -- like when we're dead and NEED it!



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!

[Pimpmyvanagon]

The fights in Orzammar are probably the hardest in the game, aside from a few optional sidequest bosses, and one or two in Act III. Going to Orzammar immediately after Lothering is probably the most difficult path you could take. Have you done any of the other main quest segments yet?



As far as conserving mana and stamina, you may need to adjust the tactics your party members are using.



In the long run, you might want to invest in adding points to Willpower, or equipping gear that adds +Willpower or +Stamina, or +Stamina/Mana Regeneration In Combat.

[Tserge]

Would you list down the spells Wynne current has? That would help others in figuring out a strategy for you.

[Nokturnal Lex]

What level are you? That storyline requires you to be around lvl 14 to get through it easily. But that's near what level I was on nightmare. My only tips would be be sure to paralyze who you can, make sure allistair is only taunting don't let him bother with other attacks and maybe pick a different class then archer on your next playthrough. Archer is seriously lacking till they patch it and fix it up or you could mod it if you're playing on PC.


(Arrows cost too much not to mention take up too much inventory space, can't enchant your bow and like 80% of the archer talents are useless)

If you didn't make Wynn a bloodmage to allow her to switch to her health pool when she's out of mana, you should've maxed her will power out. Otherwise both constitution and willpower would be good. Everything I can recommend involves restarting from before you went into the Anvil of the Void area though.

If you're concerned about Oghren not talking to you till you've finished the Anvil questline don't worry about it, he'll still talk during other cutscenes as well as to your companions and you can improve his approval by just tossing him all the alcohol you can find or always want to fight/kill things during other storylines, he likes 2 things, being drunk and fighting stuff. Pretty simple.

Modifié par Nokturnal Lex, 11 décembre 2009 - 02:38 .

[DodgeMoreLightning]

Reduce the number of enemies you're facing first off. Kill Golems while Branka chews on a fighter. If she tries to get anyone else, use a disabling spell on her or Taunt with Alistair if he has it. What spells you taught Wynne are really relevant here. Without that, I can't really give you anything too specific. Golems are probably specifically the anti-your team, because of their solid armor and good HP.

[Louis deGuerre]

I had the same problem first run trough. Got a serious ass kicking there.

Try to keep Branka occupied but don't let her kill someone off (i.e running around screaming approach).

Concentrate on one golem at a time and take them down. Use wynne to heal the 'friendly' golems to keep them alive as otherwise they'll die fast and they can soak up a lot of DPS with their resistances (better than your probably).

You can drain lyrium with wynne by touching the lyrium thingies lying around.

After all golems are dead go for Branka.

Branka will spawn 3 clones, attack all clones right away as one hit dispells them.

Then kill her.

[Rathalin]

If you go for Branka right away some of the golems start hitting her too, makes it an easy fight if you gang up on her and ignore the golems. Usually takes about 30 seconds with all 4 characters on her, and some golems helping. My friend plays on easy and did it this way at level 11 just last night. Her party was Oghren, Shale, Rogue PC, and Morrigan with heal.



I do this on hard and it takes about a minute to kill her with Shale, Sten, Morrigan, and PC. I haven't noticed her ever going for Lyrium.

[KariTR]

On my first playthrough this was the only encounter I had to turn down to easy. I didnt go too soon either as I was allowing the story to dictate my travels. On subsequent playthroughs I knew to have a ****-load of poultices, pots with me so was able to complete with little to no wipes.



If you can, ensure you keep a friendly golem or two healed - as Rathalin has said, this will make killing Branka a lot easier. I won't have this option with my current playthrough as I am playing full melee party, but again I will have a ton of poultices for my meatshields.

[hOnOr]

With your group and your pot situation, you really only have one chance. You need to lock down the boss with any CC you might have (force field, scattershot, etc) heal your tanks with wynne and move around using the lyrium to get more mana with wynne when she runs out. Concentrate your fire on one golum at a time ... hopefully your alister has taunt. Use it to draw agro so you can concentrate your healing from wynne on him. Once they are grouped, hopefully you can use scattershot from your archer and keep them stunned to give wynne a breather.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Focus fire starting with the weakest enemy first. (White golmens) This frees up the allied Golems to help you.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Why are you all assuming the OP is fighting Branka? He didn't specify.

[BloodsongVengeance]

heyas;

yeah, i think the general consensus is, if you ain't prepared, you're screwt. :X well it's my first playthrough and i didnt want spoilers and people telling me what-all to do. now i know better

the dwarves are the last thing ive done. everybody else is done, and we're up to getting ready to call the landsmeet. i'm level 13 or so.

annnnnd, i put everybody except the dog on auto level-up. hey, my first time, i dunno what all these things are! figure the game can handle it for me.

wynne has... heal, group heal, the stamina/mana rejuvination thing. mage armor she never uses. hero's whatsis. hero's other whatsis vs archers. revive, though she never has mana enough to use it when we need it. lifeward, group heal, the thing that is supposed to do a healing pulse every few seconds, but i never see it do that but the once on startup. mage bolt, paralysis, paralyzing glyph, stonefist, and earthquake.
the golems are immune to paralysis, except when the lower level one steps on the glyph. earthquake is useless, as it knocks down alistair and oghren instead of any enemies. (how they manage this on easy mode which supposedly has no friendly fire is beyond me. plus i had a caltrop trap that i got hit with, too. sheesh. no friendly fire my butt. :X )

the golems are also particularly resistant to scattershot. which even if it does work, stuns them all for like half a second anyway. they're also resistant to being knocked down. and, i suppose, critical hits.

omg, i swear i'm gonna rewrite this section of the game with diplomatic solutions.


and yeah, at first i was gonna listen to alistair and wynne and destroy the anvil, but after seriously considering it... my character would go the other way.

yeah.... im doomed.

but okay, lets see... so...

branka is being totally useless crouching and hugging her control rod. brilliant. everybody jumps one of the two golems going against the allied golems, except alistair, who taunts the other 3 golems into beating on him while he.... stands there. do i have this part right? and wynne, who camps a lyrium deposit to heal him.
then we jump the second golem engaging an ally golem, and then we should have... two ally golums, oghren, alistair, wynne, and my useless (thanks a lot ) archer vs 2 regular golems and cairden.

hmmm.... yeah, we gonna die.

Modifié par BloodsongVengeance, 11 décembre 2009 - 07:25 .

[KariTR]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Why are you all assuming the OP is fighting Branka? He didn't specify.

You know of any other fights in the Deep Road which has FIVE golems kicking your PC's butts?

[Cybercat999]

First thing I do with any game is turning *auto* anything off, seriously. Auto leveling is just wrong imo, it probably gets you in lot of everything and specializing is usually the better path.

My Wynne is primarily a healer, I put all her points in willpower for bigger mana pool. She doesnt have to do damage, unless its to shatter something with stonefist she already has. In some intense fights she is so focused on healing, buffing, debuffing, she doesnt have a second left to do any damage really.

Alistair I set as tank, all taunt, shield, heaviest armor and lot of hp.

Whatever is left is set for max dps. Oghren can be pretty good dps, but with an archer you cant play "burn things asap" kind of game. You have to outlive first.

Well, this is just my opinion based on your group setup.



Btw isnt level 13 bit low for someone who did everything up to Landsmeet? I am on my 6th playthrough and I just got to 14 with doing only The Circle and half way through Ashes quest.

You probably missed lot of side quests, wouldnt hurt to stop with main questline and find few side quests to get more levels at least.

[menasure]

it's not that difficult once you understand how this fight works but it can be annoying.
one very important principle: have your healer run from lyrium to lyrium and hit them when you need it or when there's no immediate need for healing. the boss gains powers each time he/she hits it and you need the mana yourself so that's a double reason to do it.

pull your team slightly back before the fight and spread them to avoid rock blasts hitting everyone at once. pauze often to check which opponent goes after team members of you.

once the boss has locked on on a character start running with it in big circles, it will be long run ... untill no golems are left. if it is your tank then you will have to try to let someone else take over because you might need him to tank some golems.

if there's a squishy non tank character locked on by a golem, start to run too with it. use ranged skills to target any golems following one of your guys if it's not the tank and put your tank on an intercept course so you can kill the gollem off which followed your guy.


some of the other golems will concentrate on your allied golems and it will take time for them to kill these, however they will loose on their own eventually. have the rest of your team support the few golems who are on your side as soon as possible ... if you're lucky you can do this immediately. make sure they all hit the same one. every golem less is a more comfortable situation for you.

if you play it right you keep only the boss at the end this way. keep hitting those lyrium deposits while you're putting your tank to work on the boss and your other characters in support of the tank.
you'll soon win the fight if you do not allow the boss to hit thos lyrium deposits.

Modifié par menasure, 11 décembre 2009 - 08:01 .

[BloodsongVengeance]

heyas;



okay, this went well. we didnt even have to suck any healing potions. (oghren had one, i think...)



i sent wynne to glyph/camp a lyrium deposit by the one duelling golems, sicced alistair and oghren on the duelling golem. i put a trap down near there too, but they never stepped on it.

with wynne doing nothing automatic but self heal and healing alistair at 50%, and alistair in 'i look threatening' mode (didnt have taunt, apparently), they accomplished their goal. also oghren has a mode that makes him un-knockdownable. i used that for him instead of berserk.



we didnt actually finish off the duelling golems, but we hit a yellow ranked one first, then took out a duelling golem, and went for the other one. snarfed lyrium when ceriden got too close. he did get a couple on the other side of the cavern. oghren was the closest to those at that time, and his short little legs couldn't get him there ahead of him. :X but we did all right.



thanks guys!

[Dasim4]

With no real respawns in this game it is always possible to run back out, restock your potions, and run back in. Beats the heck out of bashing your head against the wall over and over.

[MMkain]

You can shatter the Golems if you manage to freeze them. Otherwise, chug baby chug.

[SneakySolidSnake]

one thing i don't get is, if all golems came from the anvil of the void. why is shale still alive after the anvil is broken? i didn't have him in my party during the mission so i don't know if there is any dialog to explain it.

[SneakySolidSnake]

oh, ok. i thought caradin said that they were immortal and wanted an end. i suppose i never thought that if he willed death it could come for him. i guess that is why you don't see more of them in the tunnels and stuff; the rest of them probably said "to hell with this" and died off hundreds of years ago.

thanks LostScout

[CptPatch]

USEFUL Suggestion: When the fight starts, IMMEDIATELY use a Stonefist on Branka. It gets you a couple rounds to set your strategy in motion. Thereafter, use Stonefist on Branka ASAP after the spell is available again. You definitely want her out of the action as much as possible.

[ChalresFrazier]

I too need help on this level, I'm a level 11 rogue with Morrigan, Shayle, PC. I've been trying to do this on easy, however i usually get down to a golem and that one chick. While i only have morrigan alive. I can't seem how to beat this.