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Tali has been in just as many if not more suicide missions than Shepard over all three games.


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Catamantaloedis wrote...

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That was a suicide mission too.

We have no reason to believe that they expected to survive any of their missions. And the fact that they always die is indicative that these were very risky missions. Just because they were tasked with recovering data doesn't mean that they had any real chance at making it out alive.

Shepard's squad is just more skilled. That has nothing to do with the Quarians' expection of the survival of their own squad.

Are you yet another deviate obsessed with me? You seem to magically appear whenever I post anything. Starting to make me feel...uncomfortable.


LOL, oh you!:lol:
I'm not obsessed with you!  I just happen to appear anywhere that logic has happened to fail!

A suicide mission is a mission in which you are expected to die in order to complete it (Think Kamikaze Pilots and WWII).

So how would Tali and her crew expect to die and bring back the critical data?

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This man is a card.

All his threads incite so many fun times.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

@Sisterofshane

That was a suicide mission too.

We have no reason to believe that they expected to survive any of their missions. And the fact that they always die is indicative that these were very risky missions. Just because they were tasked with recovering data doesn't mean that they had any real chance at making it out alive.

Shepard's squad is just more skilled. That has nothing to do with the Quarians' expection of the survival of their own squad.

Are you yet another deviate obsessed with me? You seem to magically appear whenever I post anything. Starting to make me feel...uncomfortable.


Your contradicting yourself with that statement.  You first say that they had no real reason to expect survival but Shepard did because his squad is more skilled.  But you than say that skill ' has nothing to do with the Quarians' expection of the survival of their own squad.'

If its skill that determines the survival rates then the quarians in general suck in terms of their military strategy.  You dont send a bunch of tank engineers to carry out an infiltration operation you send in special forces. 

No soldier has any reason to think that they will come back from a war zone.  That doesn't make it a suicide mission. 

Also let me get this straight... your saying.. That Tali's mission to Freedom's Progress was more of a suicidal mission than the collector base??? Seriously?   Ok you have to be trolling now.  

On Freedom's Progress all they came up against was a few rogue security mechs.  The reason the Quarian's all died in it wasn't because the mission was a suicidal one.  Its because all of Tali's men were insubordinate retards and rushed on ahead, only to come up against a superior force.  That is what happens when you charge head on into hostile territory.

The collector base mission was suicidal because they were going to attempt something no one has ever survived trying.  The collecters were more advanced and their base was a complete unknown.  But because the squad was skilled and Shepard is a good commander, they made it out alive. 

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Catamantaloedis

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Your attempt to justify your stalking of me with humor has failed.

And yes, you can have a suicide mission where you are attempting to bring something back, as long as the risks are suicidal. They are hardly mutually exclusive.

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In my first playthrough, she became the only one of my squadmates to successfully pull off a suicide mission, too. Samara would have succeeded, too, if I hadn't Paragon-interrupted her.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

All of the missions the Quarians led by Tali are very high risk. They have nothing to do with their failure to protect themselves.


Zaeed has been on more suicide missions than anyone in your squad. Doesn't make him a good leader. Exhibit A, every mission he was on with a squad, only he survived. Exhibit B1, if he leads the first fire team, your tech croaks. Exhibit B2, if he leads the second fire team he croaks.

In any case, Tali was in one real suicide mission on her own, and that was Horizon.

Modifié par Zardoc, 30 mai 2012 - 02:16 .


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The whole BSN going on a suicide mission sounds pretty good right about now.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Your attempt to justify your stalking of me with humor has failed.

And yes, you can have a suicide mission where you are attempting to bring something back, as long as the risks are suicidal. They are hardly mutually exclusive.


Shouldn't you be making out with your indomitable horses catieoboobuios.

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Sisterofshane wrote...

LOL, oh you!:lol:
I'm not obsessed with you!  I just happen to appear anywhere that logic has happened to fail!


Haha, that sounds like some sort of super hero introduction speech :lol:

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Catamantaloedis

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If Tali is tasked with completing a risky mission with substandard and disloyal troops, then its a suicide mission for her.

Every soldier has every reason to believe that they have a reasonable chance of surviving mission, unless facts state otherwise. Its absurd to say that a soldier in Afghanistan does not believe that he has a reasonable chance of survival just because he's in a warzone.

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wsandista wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Your attempt to justify your stalking of me with humor has failed.

And yes, you can have a suicide mission where you are attempting to bring something back, as long as the risks are suicidal. They are hardly mutually exclusive.


Shouldn't you be making out with your indomitable horses catieoboobuios.


My horses are reserved for the cowards and fools who think that it is not wrong and evil to have sex with aliens.

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"Prazza was an idiot!"

"I just watched my whole team die!"

Missions gone wrong, not suicide missions.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Your attempt to justify your stalking of me with humor has failed.

And yes, you can have a suicide mission where you are attempting to bring something back, as long as the risks are suicidal. They are hardly mutually exclusive.


Shouldn't you be making out with your indomitable horses catieoboobuios.


My horses are reserved for me to make sweet love to.


That is just sick bro

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You know, I don't always agree with Catamanwhatever (usually not, in fact), but I have to applaud him for always being mature and trying to use logic to support his strange opinions, even when his threads are typically met with trollish responses. He's a true BSN hero.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Your attempt to justify your stalking of me with humor has failed.

And yes, you can have a suicide mission where you are attempting to bring something back, as long as the risks are suicidal. They are hardly mutually exclusive.


Shouldn't you be making out with your indomitable horses catieoboobuios.


My horses are reserved for the cowards and fools who think that it is wrong and evil to have sex with aliens. Namely myself.


I agree.

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

You know, I don't always agree with Catamanwhatever (usually not, in fact), but I have to applaud him for always being mature and trying to use logic to support his strange opinions, even when his threads are typically met with trollish responses. He's a true BSN hero.

 

He tries being mature. He really isn't though. If he was, he wouldn't create the stupid threads he creates in the first place.

Modifié par Zardoc, 30 mai 2012 - 02:21 .


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She also says she couldn't let anyone take her place in a mission as risky as Haestrom.

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Tali braver than Shepard...lmao.

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Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

You know, I don't always agree with Catamanwhatever (usually not, in fact), but I have to applaud him for always being mature and trying to use logic to support his strange opinions, even when his threads are typically met with trollish responses. He's a true BSN hero.


Thank you. Although, I don't think my opinions are strange.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

I justified it.

If you can't comprehend it, that's your fault. Maybe you shouldnt have dropped out of school.


You're a surprisingly effective troll, but still not all that good. "Dropped out of school, lolol" is kind of predictable.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

She also says she couldn't let anyone take her place in a mission as risky as Haestrom.


:o

Well played.

I just want to point out that every mission could be considered suicide. There's never a guaruntee you'll make it out alive.

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Flashflame58 wrote...

Tali braver than Shepard...lmao.


When she was like 18, she was already incriminating Spectres. 

When Shepard was her age, he was in a gang or watching his family get murdered.

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Quarians constantly put themselves at risk due to their handicaps. It has become the standard fare for them.

That should also mean that they are used to the risks and should have gotten quite good at handling it by now.

Maybe Tali's just unlucky or ...

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Hardly. Shepard's been a marine since the age of 18.

Tali left the safety of her fleet only three years ago.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...



Every soldier has every reason to believe that they have a reasonable chance of surviving mission, unless facts state otherwise. Its absurd to say that a soldier in Afghanistan does not believe that he has a reasonable chance of survival just because he's in a warzone.

lol, your compareing Apples and Oranges... no your comparing Apples and toe-nail clippings

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

Tali braver than Shepard...lmao.


When she was like 18, she was already incriminating Spectres.

She was actually 22.