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N7 matchmaker hypothesis - Slow lobbies since patch 1.03/Rebellion


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#201
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If i choose Quick Match i get thrown in with randoms ranging from N7 100 to N7 2000. However, if i create my own lobby, only players of similar N7 join me =/

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 31 mai 2012 - 09:47 .


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Some other recent changes were pretty bad (no headshots, murdered the noble Kishock, indirect infiltrator buffs, indirect grenadier nerfs, no time between waves to regroup, unbalanced additions), but if this one is true... that just takes the cake.  Matching based on N7 level could be a dealbreaker for public MP.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 09:51 .


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wharone

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Some other recent changes were pretty bad (no headshots, murdered the noble Kishock, indirect infiltrator buffs, indirect grenadier nerfs, no time between waves to regroup, unbalanced additions), but if this one is true... that just takes the cake.  Matching based on N7 level could be a dealbreaker for public MP.


Agreed. Though I'm happy we got new characters and such, I can't say I've been pleased with some of the changes. I've been queueing up for random silver matches for over half an hour now and still nothing. Oy. Saving up for the upcoming rebellion packs is going to take longer than expected...

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Cyberfrog81

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Issue confirmed:

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OP makes excellent points. If intentional this is a terrible idea and needs to be fixed. Like right now.

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I'm sitting there with my N7 2500 ass for some 60 minutes with a public UUG game and not one single soul has joined. This NEVER happened before the patch and people NEVER complained about playing with me.

Modifié par DragonRageGT, 31 mai 2012 - 10:26 .


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DragonRageGT wrote...

I'm sitting there with my N7 2500 ass for some 60 minutes with a public UUG game and not one single soul has joined. This NEVER happened before the patch and people NEVER complained about playing with me.


If you're on PC, you could add me. My N7 is 218, maybe if I lower the lobby average with my low-ranking self we could both find players faster? :huh:

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Scylla Costa

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Hi guys,

I will post news about this topic here:
http://social.biowar.../index/12348368

Modifié par Scylla Costa, 31 mai 2012 - 10:40 .


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Cid Revolution

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Scylla Costa wrote...

Hi guys,

I will post news about this topic here:
http://social.biowar.../index/12348368


That's awesome news, Scylla. It's good know you guys are listening and taking our complaints into account. The game has become horrendously troublesome and boring to play now that it takes too long to form a team.

Edit: I also want to reiterate that I never had a problem playing with people of a lower rank than me, and I'm sure most of the others in the community feel the same way. As it's been mentioned so many times before, rank doesn't equate skill. We don't judge books by covers here.

Modifié par Cid Revolution, 31 mai 2012 - 11:05 .


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Volksvarg

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That's fantastic Scylla, thank you for providing us an official stance from Bioware.

As many people have stated here, the change has made making lobbies and matches extremely slow and counter-productive to gameplay. I sincerely hope the changes are rolled back.

PD: So much for the "Placebo" and "Doesn't exist" or "You're crazy" posts eh?

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Rahabzu

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Yup, though i feel this was made to people stop complaining and kicking "low n7s" in gold it's great they'
re thinking of rolling back.

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I prefer to get wiped on multiple games with noobs, at least they learn Gold is hard, and they get better, and get new players quickly when they're kicked, instead of waiting ages for supposedly ranked players (who still suck, most of the times).
N7 does not equate skill. If you got a ton of character cards from farming and leveled up, is thast skill?
It took me a couple of hours last day to get a good team :/

#213
ColonelFacepalm

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right now the match making is trying to find players with a similar N7 ranking but if your friend joins your lobby its gonna take the average N7 rank of both of you (im low 700 rank and playing with my buddy thats nearly 1200 rank and gues who joins ppl around 900 rank yday in multiple matches now one person joined our gold lobby with rank below 800 or above 1100 most of them were nearly 900 or close to 1000. If Bioware wont remove this system this multiplayer will die in less than a week cuz i seriously doubt ppl will want to wait for 20 minutes to make a match that lasts 20 and them after the match ppl leavre and the waiting starts alll over again ,,,

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If anyone wants to add me and play some matches on gold or silver...

Origin id: FernetVittone

N7 rank: 815 or so... (?)

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I'd just like to point to the sticky near the top of the multiplayer forum page that says they introduced a new matchmaking system and are considering removing it due to player feedback...

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Karstedt

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Player feedback was:
Ctrl+f+u
Don't think you can slip changes by us unnoticed.
Sincerely,
RAGE!!! FIX RAGE!!!

#217
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What was the point of adding N7 matchmaking anyway? It's not that N7 rating indicates your level of skill or even the time you spent on mp. It's just a number showing how much do you like playing as lvl 1 character.

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They should match-make with respect to ping between players. Not by throwing me into games with people in Outer Mongolia. Even better, keep the original matchmaker and just give us A DANG PING METER! What is so difficult to understand about ping meters?!?!? Games have had them since the 1990s!

Modifié par Creakazoid, 01 juin 2012 - 03:47 .


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I'm playing with more 500 level characters, but I've also been thrown into them middle gold games when I set my game search to be either silver or bronze.

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Drussius wrote...

I'd just like to point to the sticky near the top of the multiplayer forum page


Yes, to quote it in full:

Bioware wrote...

We implemented this week some changes to our matchmaking system.  After hearing the feedback from our community we are discussing internally if these changes should be rolled back.


What gets me is, they obviously had internal discussions to approve and introduce it.  It shows what a disconnect Teh Powers That Be have with the community in the first place... You think you'd look at competitors products and see what works, what dosent, what players like, what they don't, and use those for the best experience in yours.

I pity the poor mouthpieces that have no say, but just pass information back and forth, because if it's anything like my company it's a thankless task trying to explain to decision-makers concepts they don't understand, while hard working developers slave in cubicles to implement said poorly thought out decisions.  If its anything lliked my company :unsure:

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Stinja wrote...

Drussius wrote...

I'd just like to point to the sticky near the top of the multiplayer forum page


Yes, to quote it in full:

Bioware wrote...

We implemented this week some changes to our matchmaking system.  After hearing the feedback from our community we are discussing internally if these changes should be rolled back.


What gets me is, they obviously had internal discussions to approve and introduce it.  It shows what a disconnect Teh Powers That Be have with the community in the first place... You think you'd look at competitors products and see what works, what dosent, what players like, what they don't, and use those for the best experience in yours.

I pity the poor mouthpieces that have no say, but just pass information back and forth, because if it's anything like my company it's a thankless task trying to explain to decision-makers concepts they don't understand, while hard working developers slave in cubicles to implement said poorly thought out decisions.  If its anything lliked my company :unsure:

Actually, it shows that they pay attention and are trying to do something to make the experience better.  There have always been people complaining about getting matched with low N7 players here, and some few people even support the matchmaker.  Looking at the forums, it would have seemed a good idea, the only problem is that most people against it spoke up only after it was implemented.

If they change it so it's an option you can set and refine it a bit, it could be an addition that makes players happy.

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UKStory135 wrote...

I'm playing with more 500 level characters, but I've also been thrown into them middle gold games when I set my game search to be either silver or bronze.

Yep, it's a real kicker to be dropped into a gold game with a character made for bronze without any equipment

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Shock & Awe +1

I'm French, & I always host my lobby ( Falcon HSo ;) )
Today, I tried to host a silver lobby. After 10 min, a guy came to the lobby, quit, re-came, we launched the match, on guy joined in-game. Yeah, it's a cool story. But, the waiting for every lobby except FBWGG takes 10min+ to fill !
Actually, the matchmaker incite me to FBWGG ( tried once before, hated it), just to play ME3, & not to wait 10 min for a miserable match with N7 600~ ( who sometimes only know how to sit behind The One Desk To Farm Them All !)

Sorry Bioware, nice try but wrong try. I'm sure you will fix it. & offthread : Reegar <3

Modifié par Bobbytrukmush, 01 juin 2012 - 04:14 .


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djarlaks10

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Bobbytrukmush wrote...

Shock & Awe +1

I'm French, & I always host my lobby ( Falcon HSo ;) )
Today, I tried to host a silver lobby. After 10 min, a guy came to the lobby, quit, re-came, we launched the match, on guy joined in-game. Yeah, it's a cool story. But, the waiting for every lobby except FBWGG takes 10min+ to fill !
Actually, the matchmaker incite me to FBWGG ( tried once before, hated it), just to play ME3, & not to wait 10 min for a miserable match with N7 600~ ( who sometimes only know how to sit behind The One Desk To Farm Them All !)

Sorry Bioware, nice try but wrong try. I'm sure you will fix it. & offthread : Reegar <3

Well, I would have gladly joined you in a gold match, but I can't even play! Yay for Bioware and their awesome programmers.

Modifié par djarlaks10, 01 juin 2012 - 04:15 .


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It takes so damn long to find a match when your N7 is around 3000

I've never had a problem with playing with people with any level of N7, as long as the character was an appropriate level (but even then, a team of 4 can do a lot).