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Ironic : I made my Templar gay


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Tonya777

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I'm straight and have done every possible straight relationship in the game some even several times

I'm on a Dwarf Templar/Champion playthrough and I decided to make him gay w/ Zevran because hes the main source of damage in the party and Lelianna sucks and I don't want him to turn against me when the crows come for him later on

So it ensures he will stay , but its absolutley hilarious to see a hairy dwarf who looks straight as they come making out with Zevran XD and its even more funny because hes a Templar and Templars are supposed to be all holy and righteous and from the chantry and whatnot

Its a funny character , hes like a corrupt Templar he kills people he shouldn't and is gay w/  Zevran

I felt that this 5 foot nothing hairy beardo dwarf w/ Morrigan or Lelianna would just seem weird and I've already had characters have relationships with those girls several times so I decided to go this route on this playthrough lol

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Erm, I don't think he would be corrupt because he is Gay, and as far as we know, that may not be taboo in the games world.

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fantasypisces wrote...

Erm, I don't think he would be corrupt because he is Gay, and as far as we know, that may not be taboo in the games world.


Well, Templars are chaste, so he fails that by having a relationship, regardless of orientation.

Still, I think the original poster is confusing the Crystal Dragon Jesus religion in the game with those found in the real world.

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Thats not the only thing thats corrupt about him

I mean whatever you beleive in real life has no bearing on if a Templar from the Chantry being gay is technically considered a defiance of his background in the game technically speaking

Hes corrupt because he also runs around killing innocents , he killed Connor , he cured the werewolves only to kill them right after , and so forth

Edit : Basically hes a Templar so hes supposed to always do "The right thing" but he never does "The right thing" so yeah hes a twisted Templar

Modifié par Tonya777, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:05 .


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Tonya777 wrote...

Hes corrupt because he also runs around killing innocents , he killed Connor , he cured the werewolves only to kill them right after , and so forth


My Templar killed Connor too - that's entirely in character. The kid was an Abomination, a demon-possessed mage, and killing them is pretty much a Templar's main job. That's what the big Silver Sword of Mercy on the armor represents.

I think you are also confusing Templar with the archetypical fantasy Paladin. They are not at all the same thing.

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Well the thing is I did the tower prior to the Connor thing and could have just brought the mages over and killed nobody , I also didn't let the kids mom kill him I had him knock her out and do it himself haha

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Yeah killing Connor would actually be proper templar action, even Alastair says that to begin with (which bugs me as to why he throws a hissyfit when you get back to camp considering he initially said the kid has to die).

Edit: Even doing the KO to Isolde and killing Connor and despite the whole Tower trip, you are still being a Templar.

The non-Templar action would have been to have let Jowan use blood magic to transport one of your mages into the Fade to deal with the demon.

Curing the werewolves in some respects would be the Templar thing too, considering you are ensuring the death of the main abomination (Lady of the Forest is technically a demon) and Zathrian really should've died years ago, but yeah, killing the uncursed humans that wouldn't be templar like.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:17 .


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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Curing the werewolves in some respects would be the Templar thing too, considering you are ensuring the death of the main abomination (Lady of the Forest is technically a demon) and Zathrian really should've died years ago, but yeah, killing the uncursed humans that wouldn't be templar like.


They were thralls of a demon. You can never be too careful!

I don't think there's any issue with having your Templar take a 'Kill them all, and let the Maker sort them out' mentality. The only time, of the events you've described so far, that are out of character for a Templar are having sex (with anyone) and saving the Circle of Magi when you really should have been on-board with Annulling them all.

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I did save the mages lol



Maybe I should send Allistar off at the landsmeet and have him executed and then force Loghain to die even though I could just do the ritual and spare him XD

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Nothing says the templars are righteous or incorruptible, they are basically addicted to lyrium, we see one of them go on a killing spree of mages, apprentice mages. And being gay is not taboo in this world and has nothing to do with corruption. You really want him to be twisted he should be wooing the maleficar Morrigan. The game never shows the Chantry as being totally righteous, they played a large part in the decimation and expungement of the elves.



The whole purpose of your post seems to be saying gays are weird and evil isn't it funny I made my templar do all these horrible things including having a relationship with a man. So, to me, everything about your post is misguided.

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DaySeeker wrote...

The whole purpose of your post seems to be saying gays are weird and evil isn't it funny I made my templar do all these horrible things including having a relationship with a man. So, to me, everything about your post is misguided.


Pretty much what I was trying to get at, without coming out directly and saying it.

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This is what the Dragon age Wiki says about the Chantry's views on sex. You may actually be in the clear being gay. Just don't get married.

The Chantry



According to the Chant of Light, Andraste had a spiritual marriage with
the Maker. All Andrastian priests are symbolically wedded to the Maker;
they cannot marry, but are not required to be celibate. In the eyes of
the Chantry, marriage is a matter of tradition and practicality, and a
holy bond between man and woman. Love is not necessary, but love within
marriage is the ideal. Other than that, the Chantry has few regulations
regarding sexuality.



The Chantry does not have divorce, but a marriage can be annulled.



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Tonya777

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If only Morrigan actually was a Maleficar



Now if Jowan could be a party member who is romancable



Then you could have a Templar be gay with a maleficar and that would be awesomely ironic lol

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Pretty sure Alistair mentions in dialogue that you take a vow of chastity when you become a Templar. Or am I misremembering?

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Tonya777 wrote...
...and that would be awesomely ironic lol


You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Adria Teksuni

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I can't remember if it was a vow of chastity or just being in the Chantry kept him from doing much of anything.

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Pimpmyvanagon wrote...

Pretty sure Alistair mentions in dialogue that you take a vow of chastity when you become a Templar. Or am I misremembering?


You're right.. he does.. but according to the wiki then, a priest can sleep around, but a Templar can't? Or is the wiki just wrong.

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Adria Teksuni

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Well, priests are all women, and women are too smart to have a chaste all female structure.

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If being gay isn't Taboo in their world but then seeing as the dialouge still acts as if it is with phrases like "You.... enjoy other men?!" uhhh yeah I think its taboo in their world anyway

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Unique or rare doesn't mean taboo. Non of the other companions go off on you about it, so I don't think it is taboo. Either way, more taboo to romance a witch of the wilds you are to kill upon finding.

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Well. Technically... you aren't really bound by the Chantry, just like Alistair. You may be a Templar, but you're a Grey Warden first. So, you fall out of Chantry jurisdiction. So, no. There's nothing all that ironic about your situation. You're a gay man doing gay things. Not a big deal.



Furthermore, as someone else said, Templars aren't entirely 'righteous and holy' warriors. They're simply the army of the Chantry. Some fall off the beaten path, and will even take bribes from 'Apostate' Mages for things such as Lyrium.

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Adria Teksuni

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Well, it may be frowned upon in say, Ferelden, but completely acceptable in Orlay. No tellin'.

You may be a Templar, but you're a Grey Warden first.


By Andraste's flaming sword, I read that as "but you're a Gay Warden first".

*sigh*

Modifié par Adria Teksuni, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:37 .


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Adria Teksuni wrote...

Well, it may be frowned upon in say, Ferelden, but completely acceptable in Orlay. No tellin'.

You may be a Templar, but you're a Grey Warden first.


By Andraste's flaming sword, I read that as "but you're a Gay Warden first".

*sigh*


I don't blame you. There's an overuse of the word in this thread. Let's just go with homosexual for now.

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Tonya777

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lol gay warden



I wonder if Duncan was a gay warden... my dwarf and him could have had all kinds of weird beard seckz

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Doubt it. Duncan's beard exists beyond trivial things such as sex. It only enjoys the wholesome slaughter of Darkspawn and daily grooming. ...God, now I'm idolizing the bead, too. Dammit.