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[ShadowBrumby]

wright1978 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

ShadowBrumby wrote...


You are only half right. Petrovsky puts the lives of his troops first and the Illusibe Man knows this and uses it to his own advantage. That means he's loyal to humanity, the ideal of Cerberus and not the Illusive Man and thus he'd be against the implantations and the indoctrination methods.

Which again, makes him terrible to lead Omega.

Aria is only loyal to Aria. She rules her people through absolute fear. She does things like sending them into a plague zone to shoot survivors before they can escape, and keeping past rivals alive as living trophies. Neither are very honorable things to do, but actions like these are necessary to preserve the first rule of Omega. And people fear Petrovsky not because of Petrovsky, but because of his benefactor. Note that Aria does not even mention him in Purgatory.

Besides which, Petrovsky is an EU character that most ME players would not even know from a hole in the ground. Making him a major player on Aria's level in the game would come out of left field for many who have not read Invasion.

And finally, even if he were to take control - what would stop Aria from simply waiting until he died or became elderly, and moving back in? She's not even a Matriarch yet, I believe.

Had we ever met the Dalatross before ME3 and yet she offered a different solution to the genophage.
A bullet in the brain would i'm pretty sure still kill Aria as i doubt she would be supportive of Shep siding with Petrovsky.

Kai Leng was originally an Expanded Universe character himself and so was Grayson (he was mentioned). Petrovsky does use desperate tactics but not at the expense of his own men. This being said because he was quite willing to destroy Omega while he was still on it, if Aria didn't surrender. In a sense Aria has respect for Petrovsky and vice versa, both doing what it takes to protect what's theirs and neither willing to surrender. In addition she is of course going to hate the Illusive Man more than Oleg because it was TIM that got her away from Omega and ordered her imprisonment (If you check the expression carefully Oleg wasn't quite fond of doing so).

I think it would be interesting if there was a civil war between Cerberus on Omega and the leader of the opposing forces would be Oleg. Having Aria as a temp character and you can have the option of allowing Aria to kill him (Omega as a hub and a boost to the Terminus Systems Fleet) or you can disuade her from doing so and have Petrovsky's forces join yours (Omega hub and bonus to the Terminus Systems Fleet, and Cerberus Fleet and troops War Asset).

Modifié par ShadowBrumby, 31 mai 2012 - 07:19 .

[Harorrd]

they removed Omega from the game prior to launch, its just stupid not to add it back to the original game again

[avenging_teabag]

DesioPL wrote...

I thinking about this last few days, and i want here to share my opinion.

So, if the Omega DLC is a truth and someday will be released, i think Aria will be a squad member. Why i suggest this ?

1: Aria tell us on the Citadel, that the day of the reckoning against Cerberus is coming, and she will return to retake Omega. This is possible that's need Shepard help in retake Omega.

2: If we play Mass Effect 2. In time where we recruit the Archangel(Garrus) We find a decoy where Eclipse, Blue Suns and Blood Pack we try to kill Aria and take Omega for himselfs. We give Aria this decoy and gain Aria trust, and she need our help in retake Omega from Cerberus hands.

3: I don't know why, but i think Aria is interesed Shepard ? Maybe rommance option ?

I won't buy that DLC (if it is indeed a DLC), as I have absolutely no interest in playing with Aria, or god forbid, as Aria, or returning her worthless rock to her. I hate her. And I sure as hell wouldn't jump in bed with her - that's about as stupid as bedding Morinth. Omega is a cesspit of criminal scum, and Aria is the biggest scum there is. Besides helping her reseat her blue ass in the Afterlife serves no purpose, because [ending]. 

So nope.

[Helios969]

avenging_teabag wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

I thinking about this last few days, and i want here to share my opinion.

So, if the Omega DLC is a truth and someday will be released, i think Aria will be a squad member. Why i suggest this ?

1: Aria tell us on the Citadel, that the day of the reckoning against Cerberus is coming, and she will return to retake Omega. This is possible that's need Shepard help in retake Omega.

2: If we play Mass Effect 2. In time where we recruit the Archangel(Garrus) We find a decoy where Eclipse, Blue Suns and Blood Pack we try to kill Aria and take Omega for himselfs. We give Aria this decoy and gain Aria trust, and she need our help in retake Omega from Cerberus hands.

3: I don't know why, but i think Aria is interesed Shepard ? Maybe rommance option ?

I won't buy that DLC (if it is indeed a DLC), as I have absolutely no interest in playing with Aria, or god forbid, as Aria, or returning her worthless rock to her. I hate her. And I sure as hell wouldn't jump in bed with her - that's about as stupid as bedding Morinth. Omega is a cesspit of criminal scum, and Aria is the biggest scum there is. Besides helping her reseat her blue ass in the Afterlife serves no purpose, because [ending]. 

So nope.

That's an understandable take, and was my initial feelings with her.  But one might argue that Aria's cunning ruthlessness brings a sort of order to the chaos.  And that as bad as Omega and its residents, it would be worse without her.  Only a dominant personality could reign in the lawless personalities and different criminal factions of the seedy underworld.  She's the antiShep (in most cases) that forges relationships by placating, manipulating, or steamrolling them.  It takes an assassin to kill an assassin.

[avenging_teabag]

Helios969 wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

I thinking about this last few days, and i want here to share my opinion.

So, if the Omega DLC is a truth and someday will be released, i think Aria will be a squad member. Why i suggest this ?

1: Aria tell us on the Citadel, that the day of the reckoning against Cerberus is coming, and she will return to retake Omega. This is possible that's need Shepard help in retake Omega.

2: If we play Mass Effect 2. In time where we recruit the Archangel(Garrus) We find a decoy where Eclipse, Blue Suns and Blood Pack we try to kill Aria and take Omega for himselfs. We give Aria this decoy and gain Aria trust, and she need our help in retake Omega from Cerberus hands.

3: I don't know why, but i think Aria is interesed Shepard ? Maybe rommance option ?

I won't buy that DLC (if it is indeed a DLC), as I have absolutely no interest in playing with Aria, or god forbid, as Aria, or returning her worthless rock to her. I hate her. And I sure as hell wouldn't jump in bed with her - that's about as stupid as bedding Morinth. Omega is a cesspit of criminal scum, and Aria is the biggest scum there is. Besides helping her reseat her blue ass in the Afterlife serves no purpose, because [ending]. 

So nope.

That's an understandable take, and was my initial feelings with her.  But one might argue that Aria's cunning ruthlessness brings a sort of order to the chaos.  And that as bad as Omega and its residents, it would be worse without her.  Only a dominant personality could reign in the lawless personalities and different criminal factions of the seedy underworld.  She's the antiShep (in most cases) that forges relationships by placating, manipulating, or steamrolling them.  It takes an assassin to kill an assassin.

So sic Samara on her, problem solved. I just can't see why Shepard, in any permutation, even the whitest of white knights, would give a **** about who rules a middling mined out asteroid; at that point of time, he says "jump" and entire governments and huge armadas ask "how high?". Why would he lift a finger to take back that puddle of filth from a defunct organization led by a dead man? Aria is negligible really.

Besides, i truly detest her character and the way she's being shoved at me. There was an opportunity to screw up and betray two of my oldest friends, but i can't even verbally oppose Aria at in two games. That's BS.

Modifié par avenging_teabag, 31 mai 2012 - 01:02 .

[thesnake777]

I think aria is cool and everything...and we all know retake omega is coming and everything..but if we are going to get a squad mate or a temporary squad mate I really feel that we should get to spend time with the ME2 guys....*cough*Jack*cough*

[ReXspec]

Harorrd wrote...

they removed Omega from the game prior to launch, its just stupid not to add it back to the original game again

Sauce, pl0x?

No seriously, when did BioWare ever say this?

[Helios969]

avenging_teabag wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

I thinking about this last few days, and i want here to share my opinion.

So, if the Omega DLC is a truth and someday will be released, i think Aria will be a squad member. Why i suggest this ?

1: Aria tell us on the Citadel, that the day of the reckoning against Cerberus is coming, and she will return to retake Omega. This is possible that's need Shepard help in retake Omega.

2: If we play Mass Effect 2. In time where we recruit the Archangel(Garrus) We find a decoy where Eclipse, Blue Suns and Blood Pack we try to kill Aria and take Omega for himselfs. We give Aria this decoy and gain Aria trust, and she need our help in retake Omega from Cerberus hands.

3: I don't know why, but i think Aria is interesed Shepard ? Maybe rommance option ?

I won't buy that DLC (if it is indeed a DLC), as I have absolutely no interest in playing with Aria, or god forbid, as Aria, or returning her worthless rock to her. I hate her. And I sure as hell wouldn't jump in bed with her - that's about as stupid as bedding Morinth. Omega is a cesspit of criminal scum, and Aria is the biggest scum there is. Besides helping her reseat her blue ass in the Afterlife serves no purpose, because [ending]. 

So nope.

That's an understandable take, and was my initial feelings with her.  But one might argue that Aria's cunning ruthlessness brings a sort of order to the chaos.  And that as bad as Omega and its residents, it would be worse without her.  Only a dominant personality could reign in the lawless personalities and different criminal factions of the seedy underworld.  She's the antiShep (in most cases) that forges relationships by placating, manipulating, or steamrolling them.  It takes an assassin to kill an assassin.

So sic Samara on her, problem solved. I just can't see why Shepard, in any permutation, even the whitest of white knights, would give a **** about who rules a middling mined out asteroid; at that point of time, he says "jump" and entire governments and huge armadas ask "how high?". Why would he lift a finger to take back that puddle of filth from a defunct organization led by a dead man? Aria is negligible really.

Besides, i truly detest her character and the way she's being shoved at me. There was an opportunity to screw up and betray two of my oldest friends, but i can't even verbally oppose Aria at in two games. That's BS.

Well it is an optional DLC.

The problem with sicking Samara or Garrus on them is how much can one person do?  You could have them smuggle a nuke onto Omega and vaporize it, but that isn't going to eliminate the criminal element to the galaxy.

In real life, how many years, billions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of labor hours have been put into the "war on drugs?"  The only thing we've accomplished is waste years, spend billions of dollars, and given thousands of people employment.  Oh, yeah, we've made a lot of busts and siezures, but you pull one weed and three weeds sprout up in their place (no pun intended.)

You could also argue that having a centralize criminal hub like Omega is good for the galaxy, as you (the good guys) can keep a watch on them and ensure that they don't do something truly heinous: Like sell planet-busting nukes to Batarian terrorists, for example.

Modifié par Helios969, 31 mai 2012 - 01:17 .

[Razhathael]

Eh if we get that DLC, I just know they'll include more of those embarassing forced scenes that show how badass she is. But if they don't over-do it and expect everyone to like her, it could work. Still think there are much better choices though (ME2 companions) or a batarian.

...And if I can actually play a Shepard who's not afraid to say something against her this time... Hated how obedient Shepard was to her in ME2.

[crimzontearz]

sorry but....unless the ending is fixed it does not matter to me...at all..

I would feel no compulsion to explore that story or its ramifications or the thrill of having Aria in my squad.....at all.

or if I had to be more sarcastic

"a DLC where you play with Aria ro rescue omega maybe inntroducing also the adjundants/Pariahs? Why I'd LOVE to give you my money for that Bioware....oh wait....it all still ends in misery so it would not matter. Hey 343i...here's my $$$"

[frozn89]

It makes perfect sense for her to join the squad, but like already mentioned, probably in a LotSB kind of way. Can't see her joining the squad permanently after retaking Omega, which would in all honesty make no sense. Why would she do that after getting her "home" back? She'll probably stay on Omega and make it her own again. I know Tali joined, but she'd been with us from the start, so makes sense that she would want to stay with Shepard.

In spite of how cool it would have been to have her on the Normandy, her staying on Omega seems like the most logical way to go.

[avenging_teabag]

Helios969 wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

I thinking about this last few days, and i want here to share my opinion.

So, if the Omega DLC is a truth and someday will be released, i think Aria will be a squad member. Why i suggest this ?

1: Aria tell us on the Citadel, that the day of the reckoning against Cerberus is coming, and she will return to retake Omega. This is possible that's need Shepard help in retake Omega.

2: If we play Mass Effect 2. In time where we recruit the Archangel(Garrus) We find a decoy where Eclipse, Blue Suns and Blood Pack we try to kill Aria and take Omega for himselfs. We give Aria this decoy and gain Aria trust, and she need our help in retake Omega from Cerberus hands.

3: I don't know why, but i think Aria is interesed Shepard ? Maybe rommance option ?

I won't buy that DLC (if it is indeed a DLC), as I have absolutely no interest in playing with Aria, or god forbid, as Aria, or returning her worthless rock to her. I hate her. And I sure as hell wouldn't jump in bed with her - that's about as stupid as bedding Morinth. Omega is a cesspit of criminal scum, and Aria is the biggest scum there is. Besides helping her reseat her blue ass in the Afterlife serves no purpose, because [ending]. 

So nope.

That's an understandable take, and was my initial feelings with her.  But one might argue that Aria's cunning ruthlessness brings a sort of order to the chaos.  And that as bad as Omega and its residents, it would be worse without her.  Only a dominant personality could reign in the lawless personalities and different criminal factions of the seedy underworld.  She's the antiShep (in most cases) that forges relationships by placating, manipulating, or steamrolling them.  It takes an assassin to kill an assassin.

So sic Samara on her, problem solved. I just can't see why Shepard, in any permutation, even the whitest of white knights, would give a **** about who rules a middling mined out asteroid; at that point of time, he says "jump" and entire governments and huge armadas ask "how high?". Why would he lift a finger to take back that puddle of filth from a defunct organization led by a dead man? Aria is negligible really.

Besides, i truly detest her character and the way she's being shoved at me. There was an opportunity to screw up and betray two of my oldest friends, but i can't even verbally oppose Aria at in two games. That's BS.

Well it is an optional DLC.

The problem with sicking Samara or Garrus on them is how much can one person do?  You could have them smuggle a nuke onto Omega and vaporize it, but that isn't going to eliminate the criminal element to the galaxy.

In real life, how many years, billions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of labor hours have been put into the "war on drugs?"  The only thing we've accomplished is waste years, spend billions of dollars, and given thousands of people employment.  Oh, yeah, we've made a lot of busts and siezures, but you pull one weed and three weeds sprout up in their place (no pun intended.)

You could also argue that having a centralize criminal hub like Omega is good for the galaxy, as you (the good guys) can keep a watch on them and ensure that they don't do something truly heinous: Like sell planet-busting nukes to Batarian terrorists, for example.

Yeah, well that's why i said that I, personally, have no interest in the Omega DLC, and not even so much because of the ending. I just 1) don't see a point, 2) hate Aria. She's a bland nothing character - all she does in two games is sit on the couch looking smug. That is literally all she does. She says nothing of interest  neither - except hints on a long-gone connection with Wrex, but that's not nearly enough to justify her existence. A boring crimeboss - who would've thought. And the biggest insult of all, we can't even tell her to eff off. Even if Shepard in your game is such a paragon that his/her halo blinds half of the citadel, you still have no choice but to be her errant boy. Why? *shrug*

Your last paragraph is very untrue: the criminals in such places as Omega are no easier to keep watch over than in any other place. Crimelords are not idiots: if they suspect that they're being watched on omega, they'll simply go somewhere else with their business. Crime hubs like Omega do one thing, and one thing only: they propagate more crime. For a renegade Shep like mine who's not overly concerned with innocent casualties, Omega is currently a ****creek crawling with criminal and cerberus scum: just call in an orbital strike and be done with it. That is if he even remembers about Omega, what with the reaper invasion going on. 

But if someone buys and enjoys such a DLC (if it is indeed being made), well, more power to them. All i'm saying is that I won't play it, personally.

Modifié par avenging_teabag, 31 mai 2012 - 02:15 .