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[Rawgrim]

I hope DA3 doesn`t take anything at all from this movie.

[panamakira]

Yakko77 wrote...

Somewhat cheesy dialogue, the usual villain monologues but otherwise the action sequences were cool and the animation style was pretty neat looking IMO. I thought it was more of a prequel but it was more or less parallel to the events of DA2 as Kirkwall is mentioned and Varrics book is brought up at the end. Cassandra was a intense character with a lot of anger issues but it was interesting to see her grow and "soften" in some regard as she gains more experience with mages who are not blood mages.

I think the biggest surprise is that there are in fact horses in the world of Dragon Age.

LMAO~ This was my initial though in that first scene. There are actually horses in this world!!!!!

[Chiramu]

panamakira wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Somewhat cheesy dialogue, the usual villain monologues but otherwise the action sequences were cool and the animation style was pretty neat looking IMO. I thought it was more of a prequel but it was more or less parallel to the events of DA2 as Kirkwall is mentioned and Varrics book is brought up at the end. Cassandra was a intense character with a lot of anger issues but it was interesting to see her grow and "soften" in some regard as she gains more experience with mages who are not blood mages.

I think the biggest surprise is that there are in fact horses in the world of Dragon Age.

LMAO~ This was my initial though in that first scene. There are actually horses in this world!!!!!

>.> 

Look at the animation in Dragon Age Origins, then imagine that same animation if they ever tried to create horses in the video game world...
You just need to use your imagination to see that the video game world of Origins wouldn't be the be all and end all of the world. Imagine your expressionless Warden riding a poorly animated horse in Origins >.>...Plus why would you need a horse when you point to everywhere on the map to travel places?

It's called "Imagination".

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[Playest]

well that was a badly written badly animated pile of cliches.

there's a traitor in the chantry? Gee i wonder if its the one with the BLACK HAT!

[Sejborg]

The movie was pretty bad. I gave it a 3/10. It was not worth my time.

The guy who did the voice over for Cassandra's teacher (or whatever he was) was not convincing at all. He was just plain bad.

I did not like the action. It felt stupid when Cassandra killed dragons with a tiny knife of what - 5 cm? Also it looks like the elves have been taken in a new artistic direction - again. There is really no consistency left in the Dragon Age universe.

And the golems fighting alongside orgres made no sense. If you can control darkspawn with bloodmagic then fighting a blight should be quite easy. No?

Then when Cassandra killed the seeker traitor she said this incredible lame punchline. She chobbed his head of and says: "In the end, it came to this."

Alot of the writing was really bad. As Harrison Ford said to George Lucas: "George, you can type this ****, but you sure as hell can't say it." Combine that with a voice over that overall is lacking quality and you have a really cringeworthy experience.

But! The High Dragon and the monster in the end looked really good. But then again everything else looked kind of low detailed and fast drawn, so that just made them look out of place.

Modifié par Sejborg, 07 juin 2012 - 05:22 .

[AkiKishi]

I'd probably give the Japanese version a 6 and the English version a 4. Japanese tends to mitigate the poor writing since I hear it "wrong" in my head before I translate it. The VA quality is better too.

It's a poor movie but since they never saw fit to give it an EU release date it was in the grey area for watching.

[DahliaLynn]

Sejborg wrote...

Then when Cassandra killed the seeker traitor she said this incredible lame punchline. She chobbed his head of and says: "In the end, it came to this."
 

I think she was sarcastically repeating the Knight Commander's comment to her when she was imprisoned

[Sejborg]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

Then when Cassandra killed the seeker traitor she said this incredible lame punchline. She chobbed his head of and says: "In the end, it came to this."
 

I think she was sarcastically repeating the Knight Commander's comment to her when she was imprisoned

She was. But if that was the best they could come up with, they should just have kept her mouth shut. It was lame.

[koshiee]

It was terrible, truly terrible. Storytelling, animation, voice acting, script, everything was bad.
And mages sure liked to fight with sticks and sickles much more than use magic. Also, dragons are really easy to kill.

[Nathanmaxtro]

Just saw it, thought it was pretty decent.

I was surprised when the Ogre appeared and thought it was pretty random. Then a bunch more of them showed up with Golems. Yeah...

High Dragon looked great and the battle with the pride demon was really cool. Crashing a dragon into a dragon was amazing.

Didn't like the main villian. Why were mages using mini scythes?

Sejborg wrote...


I did not like the action. It felt stupid when Cassandra killed dragons with a tiny knife of what - 5 cm?

While that may seem far-fetched at first, it actually does make some sense.

First of all, she's from a dragon fighting clan so it's not surprsing that she knows how to kill them.

As for her blade, she sticks it into an artery and then yanks it out. Due to the blades hook design, it causes massive trauma.

Modifié par Nathanmaxtro, 09 juin 2012 - 03:38 .

[Sejborg]

Nathanmaxtro wrote...

Sejborg wrote...
I did not like the action. It felt stupid when Cassandra killed dragons with a tiny knife of what - 5 cm?

While that may seem far-fetched at first, it actually does make some sense.

First of all, she's from a dragon fighting clan so it's not surprsing that she knows how to kill them.

As for her blade, she sticks it into an artery and then yanks it out. Due to the blades hook design, it causes massive trauma.

I know all that. But it still seemed stupid that it is so easy to kill dragons. 

A dragons one weakness is small knifes. Come on <_<

[DahliaLynn]

Sejborg wrote...

Nathanmaxtro wrote...

Sejborg wrote...
I did not like the action. It felt stupid when Cassandra killed dragons with a tiny knife of what - 5 cm?

While that may seem far-fetched at first, it actually does make some sense.

First of all, she's from a dragon fighting clan so it's not surprsing that she knows how to kill them.

As for her blade, she sticks it into an artery and then yanks it out. Due to the blades hook design, it causes massive trauma.

I know all that. But it still seemed stupid that it is so easy to kill dragons. 

A dragons one weakness is small knifes. Come on <_<

Just to play Devil's advocate for a moment, it can be kind of cool if you think about it. One weakness, a small knife in an area impossible to get to within say a 5 cm diameter. Sort of like the Kill Bill five fingered death punch:D or better yet, the entire idea behind Shadow of the Colossus - taking ages of practice and agility training to reach certain point on the towering creature's head, etc. -which in this case would be the Dragon fighting clan's specialty.

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 09 juin 2012 - 03:29 .

[nightcobra]

i enjoyed it for what it was, the thing that surprised me the most was that cassandra (spoiler) was made right hand of the divine (/spoiler).

i'm all for the mages getting more freedom and respect but i'm liking this grand divine, and the fact that i love her two hands helps....that may have sound weirder than i meant it to be.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 09 juin 2012 - 03:28 .

[thats1evildude]

I liked it. I don't really care for cel-shading animation, but I was able to look past that. The story is nothing special, but it's serviceable. There are some really gory fight scenes that satisfied my bloodlust and I liked all the little tips of the hat to the Dragon Age universe. (The statue of Andraste is virtually identical to that of the Kirkwall Chantry.) They got a lot more right than they got wrong.

I'll also say this for the film: they made the ogres look far more intimidating than in DA2 itself. 

Sejborg wrote...
Also it looks like the elves have been taken in a new artistic direction - again. There is really no consistency left in the Dragon Age universe.

One fat, ugly elf with bad teeth does not constitute a new artistic direction.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 10 juin 2012 - 06:37 .

[Vormaerin]

thats1evildude wrote...

One fat, ugly elf with bad teeth does not constitute a new artistic direction.

Technically, there's two elves since the little girl is supposed to be an elf.

But your general point stands.  There's a certain element of artistic license taken by any adaptation.  Anime Cassandra does not look exactly like video game Cassandra.  Her face is narrower.     I doubt the Divine will have that pointy nose in DA3 either.

The guy is just picking nits.


I watched the movie and rather liked it.  Its free of the more extreme anime style elements, it looks pretty good, and had some definitely cool moments.  The story wasn't awful, though any intrigue as complex as this one deserves more than 90 minutes if its going to be fully developed.

The finale rocked, especially the Pride demon.  Now, if the pride demons in game were as impressive as that one was, I'd understand why they are so scary in the lore.   Slapping around Cassandra, seven mages, and a high dragon more or less all at once?   Wicked.

[venom56321489]

I refused to buy it, just not impressed with their stories anymore. Rviews of their comics have been bad also. Its like they just gave up.

[R2s Muse]

Vormaerin wrote...

The finale rocked, especially the Pride demon.  Now, if the pride demons in game were as impressive as that one was, I'd understand why they are so scary in the lore.   Slapping around Cassandra, seven mages, and a high dragon more or less all at once?   Wicked.

I thought the same thing. It was kinda cool seeing a pride demon be so badass.

[Ihatebadgames]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

Nathanmaxtro wrote...

Sejborg wrote...
I did not like the action. It felt stupid when Cassandra killed dragons with a tiny knife of what - 5 cm?

While that may seem far-fetched at first, it actually does make some sense.

First of all, she's from a dragon fighting clan so it's not surprsing that she knows how to kill them.

As for her blade, she sticks it into an artery and then yanks it out. Due to the blades hook design, it causes massive trauma.

I know all that. But it still seemed stupid that it is so easy to kill dragons. 

A dragons one weakness is small knifes. Come on <_<

Just to play Devil's advocate for a moment, it can be kind of cool if you think about it. One weakness, a small knife in an area impossible to get to within say a 5 cm diameter. Sort of like the Kill Bill five fingered death punch:D or better yet, the entire idea behind Shadow of the Colossus - taking ages of practice and agility training to reach certain point on the towering creature's head, etc. -which in this case would be the Dragon fighting clan's specialty.

Her arm was all the way in the dragons neck she killed,the gut hook probably snagged an artery deep in the neck for the dragon to bleedout.

[RussianSpy27]

The plot was predictable but ok.

What bothered me is how a High Dragon - the mightiest of all creatures and toughest of all foes essentially lost to a pride demon abomination that's supposed to be very powerful too, but come on now - shouldn't be stronger than a High Dragon.

[thats1evildude]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

What bothered me is how a High Dragon - the mightiest of all creatures and toughest of all foes essentially lost to a pride demon abomination that's supposed to be very powerful too, but come on now - shouldn't be stronger than a High Dragon.

Well, the high dragon's fire was really the only thing that had any real effect on the pride demon. Cassandra finished it off with her sword, but it was already badly wounded at that point.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 11 juin 2012 - 06:25 .

[LinksOcarina]

thats1evildude wrote...

RussianSpy27 wrote...

What bothered me is how a High Dragon - the mightiest of all creatures and toughest of all foes essentially lost to a pride demon abomination that's supposed to be very powerful too, but come on now - shouldn't be stronger than a High Dragon.

Well, the high dragon's fire was really the only thing that had any real effect on the pride demon. Cassandra finished it off with her sword, but it was already badly wounded at that point.

Sounds like a good fight in my book, very comproable in terms of power and hell, both of them are boss level in-game.


now I havent seen the movie yet (might be a while too) but a friend of mine who is a huge anime nut thought was ok. He liked the voice over work, both the sub and dub, and the action sequences. He was, however, not a fan of the art style, which to me looks pretty good for a CG movie. 

I don't know, I am not expecting something like Hayao Miyazaki from this, but it looks like a good time at least.

[Vormaerin]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

What bothered me is how a High Dragon - the mightiest of all creatures and toughest of all foes essentially lost to a pride demon abomination that's supposed to be very powerful too, but come on now - shouldn't be stronger than a High Dragon.

Well, the lore supports pride demon/abominations being supremely badass on the same scale as a dragon. In the game, of course, they were just random mobs.  And the High dragon did just get up from crashing into a building.  It might have lost  a few hp from that.    Plus however much it was hindered by the elf's magical control.

[Spedfrom]

koshiee wrote...

It was terrible, truly terrible. Storytelling, animation, voice acting, script, everything was bad.
And mages sure liked to fight with sticks and sickles much more than use magic. Also, dragons are really easy to kill.

Well, I did feel my intelligence was insulted. The usual clichés of screaming people's names when they've been killed, the holding people´s head when they´re about to die but not before saying something very significant and impactful to whomever's holding said head, the explaining things that everyone in the scene should already be aware of just so we, the audience, can be made aware of (initial reunion with the Divine), the amount of golems seen (there are only a few hundreds and we've killed a lot during both DA games, yet little old Cassandra gets about 20 just to try and kill her?). I'll try and remember more things that I really felt were poorly done, because even though I managed to enjoy some parts of the movie, it felt very amateur, as if done by people with little experience in writing/storytelling/plot-devising/attention-to-detail. 

I was expecting much more from that High Dragon too. And yes, I was really irritated that a group of mages insist on only fighting with sticks and sickles instead of using their Maker given magic. It makes no sense, it breaks immersion, it aggravates the knowledgeable audience. Also, at the beginning, why are Seekers slaughtering the blood mages right, left and center? Are they really that much weaker? Are they really only capable of firing a few blue bolts and then can only reach for their sticks not even in time to defend themselves from a Godlike Cassandra cutting them down like warm butter? If you make fiction for a living, at least make believable fiction.

Just to be clear, I don't feel that I am nitpicking, as all of these things just jumped at me immediately as I watched them. If Bioware wants to produce mature content for mature people (and maturity is not only defined by age, a young one can be mature and enjoy mature productions), their efforts and the efforts of those working for them and for their franchises have to be up to scratch. Greater in quality. You must at all times assume that we are well exposed to many different stories and ways of storytelling and a run-of-the-mill effort won't suffice.

[thats1evildude]

I've considered why the mages in the film are so prone to melee combat. As far as the blood mages go, I think they fight hand-to-hand because any time they do, their opponents are all Seekers who are mostly immune to their magic. (Cassandra herself gets hit with a couple of magic bolts and it doesn't slow her down.) Plus, they're using scythes, not staves.

When the Circle mages attack the templars near the end with their staffs, they're actually trying not to kill any of them because the templars are just patsies to Knight Commander Martel's schemes. From all accounts, none of his men knew what he was up to, so killing them would have been wrong. That one mage does use a spell against them, but his fireballs don't actually hit the templars; they just explode at their feet.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 12 juin 2012 - 10:33 .