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#26
buthane22

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Dorje Sylas wrote...

Fail. Stop nerfing until you get ULM fixed.

Well... the patch's supposed to have done that...

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Vapaa

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Why is everyone complaining ? they just decreased the tech damage bonus from 100% to 50%...is it THAT a big deal ?

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SoulRebel_1979

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RecoonHoodie wrote...

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lol, added to my favorites toolbar. 

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Creakazoid

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Forget balance changes. Fix the broken patch. No ULM fix. No Vanguard fix.

#30
Nightmare Sabin

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I guess QI is dead again. Everyone back to your SI and GI.

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Morning Elf

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Vapaä wrote...

Why is everyone complaining ? they just decreased the tech damage bonus from 100% to 50%...is it THAT a big deal ?


I play a QI occassionally and while I don't think this is an awful nerf, it seems completely random. If you asked the community if they had to make just one balance change, what they would do, I'd be shocked if anyone picked Sabotage.

Buff the Eagle? Sure. Nerf Hunter Mode? Seems reasonable. But Sabotage? Really?

It's an awfully strange thing to do when it's the only thing you do that week.

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Mendelevosa

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Damn....

#33
Adragalus

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At least it means that the Krysae and the Reegar are safe for a week >:D

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Are you trying to make Sabotage completely useless?

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Dorje Sylas

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buthane22 wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

Fail. Stop nerfing until you get ULM fixed.

Well... the patch's supposed to have done that...


But it didn't. I have the PC copy. I have that patch. As soon as I clear my last batch of recordings I'll be making vids showing if it actually worked. Currently other users have reported their timings and no, it was not fixed by the patch.

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BjornDaDwarf

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Really, just the one change. That's...underwhelming. Almost would have been better to have no balance changes this week, a surprise, "Nothing to see here folks, move along, come back next week."

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Mozts

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No Quarian Eng. buff?

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NikkoJT

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Vapaä wrote...

Why is everyone complaining ? they just decreased the tech damage bonus from 100% to 50%...is it THAT a big deal ?

This. HTFU.

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Adragalus wrote...

At least it means that the Krysae and the Reegar are safe for a week >:D


Now, you can't expect them to nerf them that fast. They've got to give us a week to break the game with our new toys. Then they might do that.

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Sabotage Power
Evolution 6 bonus to tech power damage decreased from 100% to 50%


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#41
AndanteInBlue

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They rolled out a whole new expansion this week! I'm surprised they even made any gameplay changes!

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Adragalus

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Agueybana wrote...

Adragalus wrote...

At least it means that the Krysae and the Reegar are safe for a week >:D


Now, you can't expect them to nerf them that fast. They've got to give us a week to break the game with our new toys. Then they might do that.

I had suspected that was why the changes were a day late, but nope.

Now I get to play with my PV Lashyoinker. Lash -> Charge -> melt faces -> repeat

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No me gusta

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Vapaä wrote...

Why is everyone complaining ? they just decreased the tech damage bonus from 100% to 50%...is it THAT a big deal ?


That bonus directly applies to the overheat damage that Sabotage does to organics, so Rank 6 Sabotage (before now) did at least 960 damage (increased slightly by passive class skill). Combine this with Cloak cancelling to keep cooldowns steady and it is monsterous.

So yes, it IS that big of a deal. It won't completely kill the QI, but a lot of the appeal is lost. Think I'm going to have to work in Sticky Grenade somehow.

Modifié par Veedrock, 30 mai 2012 - 05:18 .


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Morning Elf wrote...

I play a QI occassionally and while I don't think this is an awful nerf, it seems completely random. If you asked the community if they had to make just one balance change, what they would do, I'd be shocked if anyone picked Sabotage.

Buff the Eagle? Sure. Nerf Hunter Mode? Seems reasonable. But Sabotage? Really?

It's an awfully strange thing to do when it's the only thing you do that week.


Yes, but I'm seeing all kind of drama-powered RUINED FOREVER claims, I just don't seeing how it's so bad. Sure I would like some Incenerate buff, and this Sabotage nerf kinf of comes out of the field.....but really ? claiming that the QI is now useless ? :?

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Man what the freak? the Biotic powers keep the 100% debuffs but sabotage loses 100%?

People already hate tech users for wreck BEs, now you do this sabotage had the best tech debuff!! WHO THE HELL WAS MAD ABOUT THAT?

Doesnt stasis have the same debuff except for all damage at rank 4? gonna nerf that?

Nice, so instead of fixing the sabotage to give use points for using it bioware makes a QI primary crowd control and mob killer weaker while mostly destroying its ability to allow the QI the ability to safely kill phantoms and weaken hardened targets for other tech users.

Don't get me wrong, the class is still usable, but it was really niche and now its versitiliy is kinda lower..

Come on with it BW listen to us!

Modifié par darkblade, 30 mai 2012 - 05:19 .


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CroGamer002

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Wait, Sabotage was already useless for the most part and now it's even worse?

WTF Bioware?!

#48
Siansonea

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Goodbye, Quarian Infiltrator, it was fun while it lasted.

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A Wild Snorlax

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The QI was allready underused, now you're nerfing sabotage, again? Fail.

If anything tech powers should be buffed in general. Incinerate, cryo blast and tac scan are pretty damn underwhelming.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 30 mai 2012 - 05:21 .


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Thanks for taking care to keep gamebreaking things out of play, despite the reactionary haters. Easymode steamrolls aren't fun for many players, and people can get their credits anyway.

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

still...dammit BioWare...why you have to nerf everything? ever tried buffing stuff?

Buffs outnumber the nerfs at least 9 to 1.

Vapaä wrote...

Yes, but I'm seeing all kind of
drama-powered RUINED FOREVER claims, I just don't seeing how it's so
bad. Sure I would like some Incenerate buff, and this Sabotage nerf kinf
of comes out of the field.....but really ? claiming that the QI is now
useless ? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Something got OMG NERFED, so BSN sets out to burn crosses outside BW's windows just in case. QI is still good (what with being an infiltrator and all), only not killing most enemies in one cast of an AoE ability + one bodyshot with anything anymore, so... basically the win-button taken away causes people to rage.

Here's hoping the geth and GPS are next on the chopping block (with some Eagle buffs to sweeten the deal, naturally).

Modifié par Core_Commander, 30 mai 2012 - 05:23 .