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[ForgottenGuardian]

Hello everyone,

First let me state that I'm not trying to be a troll, but trying to see if anyone else has had an experience similiar to mine.

I decided that I was unhappy with my rogue's talents and I installed the character re-spec mod and the ancient elven boots mod. After respeccing, I disabled and removed the mod and had to force load my game. Now it seems that the difficulty level is broken. I'm playing on nightmare, but none of the creatures are presenting a challenge. My party (Morrigan as healer, Lelianna, Alistair, and my DW Rogue) tear through pretty much all the monsters without anyone dying. I'm not using any enhanced items or special abilities other than what the characters would normally have at their level.

Is it possible that the mods somehow broke the games difficulty making it much easier? Playing my previous games, I had a lot more trouble for some fights with my mage and my warrior.

Anyone experience anything similar?

[WKWBlank]

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

[bjdbwea]

Maybe it's just because of the experience you have now with the game? Also don't forget that 1.02 has made the game easier in several regards.

[ForgottenGuardian]

I suppose that is possible bjbwea. I don't remember cutting through these enemies so quickly the first couple times though. Maybe my party is just much more balanced.

[Skellimancer]

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

www.youtube.com/watch

[ForgottenGuardian]

Yeah, similar experience. My healer (with good tactics) doesn't let anyone really die in battle, and it makes the game seem trivial. It is almost pointless playing a rogue because by the time I get into back stab range Alistair and sten have killed the enemy.

[sirrealist8]

I am also playing on nightmare and rarely have to use potions. Not trolling or bragging, cause i don't care about bragging to strangers about my gaming skills (and why others do, i haven't a clue), but yeah, for some the game is easy on the hardest difficulty, and others its impossible on the easiest. While I don't know for sure, I doubt the mods broke your game. Maye you want to play around with the "Nightmare Plus" mod, which I think I will install. Also, you can try adding the "Better Archery" mod as well, which should make the game more difficult. The reasoning behind this is that you are often outnumbered, with enemy archers better placed and you have to go to them. So, encounters with enemy archers (of which there are many) will become more difficult.



Both mods can be found at www.dragonagenexus.com

[Skellimancer]

Nightmare is like playing Baldur's Gate 1 on easy mode

No reason to brag about playing Nightmare because it is so damned easy anyway.

Modifié par Skellimancer, 11 décembre 2009 - 05:38 .

[Fleapants]

Skellimancer wrote...

Nightmare is like playing Baldur's Gate 1 on easy mode

No reason to brag about playing Nightmare because it is so damned easy anyway.

Oh, the memories of having a lvl 1 mage fresh out of Candlekeep meet a wolf...

Or that assassin at FAI if he got his Mirror Image and Horror off

[Skellimancer]

Fleapants wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

Nightmare is like playing Baldur's Gate 1 on easy mode

No reason to brag about playing Nightmare because it is so damned easy anyway.

Oh, the memories of having a lvl 1 mage fresh out of Candlekeep meet a wolf...

Or that assassin at FAI if he got his Mirror Image and Horror off

Yes!

Bastard Mage shooting 3 magic missiles!

[badkenbad]

Since nobody seems to be paying attention to the OP, I just wanted to point out that I had a similar experience. I created a warrior before the patch and used the respec mod to pick up some skills on the NPCs. Nightmare difficulty was not very challenging at all.

After the 1.02 patch, I started again with a different warrior, I was going to respec Leliana to try her as a dagger rogue. The game crashed the first time I moved to another area after I used the respec potion. I started over with the respec mod disabled, and things are much, much more challenging than my previous warrior on nightmare.

I do think it's possible that some mods are unintentionally affecting the difficulty of the game.

Modifié par badkenbad, 11 décembre 2009 - 07:35 .

[fluffyamoeba]

The game does scale partly to the PC's level. It is possible that the respec is having the effect of treating the PC as lower level than they actually are. You are probably better off posting on the mod's forum/comments pages as the author is likely to have the best idea why it might be.

[Bibdy]

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

Monsters taking 5% less damage, player characters taking 5% more damage, and heals being 15% less effective, does not make the harder difficulty settings...difficult.

It has a minor impact on the game, at best.

Modifié par Bibdy, 11 décembre 2009 - 08:03 .

[Spaceweed10]

Kylazin wrote...

Hello everyone,

First let me state that I'm not trying to be a troll, but trying to see if anyone else has had an experience similiar to mine.

I decided that I was unhappy with my rogue's talents and I installed the character re-spec mod and the ancient elven boots mod. After respeccing, I disabled and removed the mod and had to force load my game. Now it seems that the difficulty level is broken. I'm playing on nightmare, but none of the creatures are presenting a challenge. My party (Morrigan as healer, Lelianna, Alistair, and my DW Rogue) tear through pretty much all the monsters without anyone dying. I'm not using any enhanced items or special abilities other than what the characters would normally have at their level.

Is it possible that the mods somehow broke the games difficulty making it much easier? Playing my previous games, I had a lot more trouble for some fights with my mage and my warrior.

Anyone experience anything similar?

Maybe you just roxxOOr?

[AgenTBC]

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

Oh come on, this isn't true.  I find Nightmare difficulty pretty dang easy and I'm not cheating.  I even started over so that I never have more than 1 mage in my party at once in order to make it a little harder.

Oddly it didn't actually make it harder;  less micromanagement.  With 2 mages I would play really sloppy because I could depend on the mages to mostly keep up an unending stream of heals to fix my mistakes.  With only 1 mage I play smarter and don't NEED the heals so much.

[Skellimancer]

AgenTBC wrote...

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

Oh come on, this isn't true.  I find Nightmare difficulty pretty dang easy and I'm not cheating.  I even started over so that I never have more than 1 mage in my party at once in order to make it a little harder.

Oddly it didn't actually make it harder;  less micromanagement.  With 2 mages I would play really sloppy because I could depend on the mages to mostly keep up an unending stream of heals to fix my mistakes.  With only 1 mage I play smarter and don't NEED the heals so much.

Two Mages? Even one Mage is overkill!

[BanditGR]

Has been said over and over again. The difficulty of the game has little to do with the actual setting and more with the number of mages in the party, due to their unique abilities to completely control and dominate the battlefield, in any given situation. They just have so much utility, in addition to damage dealing and very few shortcomings, when compared to the other 2 melee classes.

[MerinTB]

Skellimancer wrote...

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

www.youtube.com/watch

I finally watched this.  Thanks, it was fun!  Well played!

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Does anyone else ever feel the desire to try and get all the "game is too easy on nightmare" people into a thread with all the "game is too hard on easy" people and let them royal rumble?

[Bibdy]

MerinTB wrote...


I finally watched this.  Thanks, it was fun!  Well played!

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Does anyone else ever feel the desire to try and get all the "game is too easy on nightmare" people into a thread with all the "game is too hard on easy" people and let them royal rumble?

I'd rather both camps agree to some simple concepts about the game:

1) The learning curve is steep
2) Some 5% damage modifiers and a 15% healing reduction do not make for a sufficient jump in difficulty over TWO difficulty levels to challenge people enough.

Then we might be able to have some meaningful dialogue, rather than both sides unleashing a constant barrage of excuses and pointless suggestions.

[Skellimancer]

MerinTB wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

WKWBlank wrote...

I highly doubt ANYONE would find the game easy on Nightmare difficulty without cheats/god items. So yes you're game must be broken.

www.youtube.com/watch

I finally watched this.  Thanks, it was fun!  Well played!

---

Does anyone else ever feel the desire to try and get all the "game is too easy on nightmare" people into a thread with all the "game is too hard on easy" people and let them royal rumble?

Thanks just shows how easy it is.

I don't mind Easy mode being made easier but i do wish they would think twice before dumbing down harder settings.

[ForgottenGuardian]

I disabled the respec mod (and even removed the rest of my mods) but it still seems as though the monsters are not scaling? I know something is wrong when I clear the revenants in the brecilian forest without any trouble. Those things wiped the floot with two on my previous parties even on hard.

[Skellimancer]

Kylazin wrote...

I disabled the respec mod (and even removed the rest of my mods) but it still seems as though the monsters are not scaling? I know something is wrong when I clear the revenants in the brecilian forest without any trouble. Those things wiped the floot with two on my previous parties even on hard.

Perhaps a patch changed things?

[SheffSteel]

The community seems evenly split between the "difficulty to easy" and "easily too difficult" crowds. It's probably about right.



There's a problem inherent in game development that limits the available options...

I was lead programmer on a game project *ahem* some years ago where I wanted to have five difficulty levels - in addition to Easy Medium and Hard there would be Extra-Easy, to allow kids and the elderly to play the game without losing too often, and Extra-Hard, which would require significant dedication, talent, and perhaps even addictive levels of practice in order to beat. Unfortunately, the QA department could not complete the game on all difficulty levels within a "reasonable time frame", so they could not verify that it was 100% functional (according to their test plan), so we could not release it. One major difficulty nerf later, out it went. And that's the way it goes. Big publishers may put dozens of testers on a game, and if they can't all complete it, it won't be published in that form.

[AgenTBC]

SheffSteel wrote...

The community seems evenly split between the "difficulty to easy" and "easily too difficult" crowds. It's probably about right.

I actually disagree with this rather strongly.  If you have a lot of people sayiing its too easy and a lot of people saying its too hard it means you have screwed up the difficulty levels.  There's a reason it goes from "easy" to "nightmare".  Bioware should have made Nightmare much harder.

Is there really any legitimate argument for not making Nightmare more difficult?  It's called "Nightmare" after all.  It should be too hard for most people, and right now its still pretty easy.

[MerinTB]

SheffSteel wrote...
The community seems evenly split between the "difficulty to easy" and "easily too difficult" crowds. It's probably about right.

I know, right?

I'm not really advocating a flame war, I actually wish that they could realize they exist in about equal numbers (relatively) and see that maybe its the gamers who make it easy or hard and not the game, and since we see complaints at both ends (with a crew of us in the middle satisfied) that the game is probably just about the right balance for a mass market release.