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[mass perfection]

  A lot of you guys believe Synthesis is evil and doesn't solve the Synthetic vs. Organic conflict,but it does indeed.




Now that Mr.Kaku has explained that merging with the machines will open a new era and why he believes we should embrace the tech. singularity and that's what Synthesis does.Merges us with the machines.

 When Mr.Kaku said that merging with the machines will make us like the gods and we'll evolve beyond human standards means the Starchild was correct when he said Synthesis is the final evolution of life.

[Taboo]

How you ever read a, you know book on these kinds of things?

You can't do this. Ever. It doesn't work that way.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 30 mai 2012 - 09:58 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Something isn't right here.

*Gasp* 

He's advocating synthesis as a viable choice! Get him!

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 30 mai 2012 - 10:00 .

[mass perfection]

Taboo-XX wrote...

How you ever read a, you know book on these kinds of things?

You can't do this. Ever. It doesn't work that way.

Explain.

[M Hedonist]

Nothing about your post makes any sense. But maybe that's just because I didn't bother to watch the video.

[PsyrenY]

I support Synthesis, but not the notion that there is "one true ending." All three have merits and demerits. This was one area of the endings I have to tip my hat to Bioware on, even thought they had to cannibalize Control to generate the necessary speculations.

[wantedman dan]

mass perfection wrote...

  A lot of you guys believe Synthesis is evil and doesn't solve the Synthetic vs. Organic conflict,but it does indeed.




Now that Mr.Kaku has explained that merging with the machines will open a new era and why he believes we should embrace the tech. singularity and that's what Synthesis does.Merges us with the machines.

 When Mr.Kaku said that merging with the machines will make us like the gods and we'll evolve beyond human standards means the Starchild was correct when he said Synthesis is the final evolution of life.

Yeah, because voluntarily embracing synthesis is TOTALLY THE SAME as forcing eugenics upon the galaxy.

No.

[Taboo]

mass perfection wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

How you ever read a, you know book on these kinds of things?

You can't do this. Ever. It doesn't work that way.

Explain.

Evolution is substrate dependant. That means it will happen regardless. It will never "stop".

What you propose here is some sort of...machine man...something.

I can't think of an appropriate metaphor without going overboard.

[Devil Mingy]

Relative to Destroy and Control, Synthesis probably is the only solution to the organic vs synthetic problem.

I just wish it was a problem that the game told me was worth solving.

[mass perfection]

Taboo-XX wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

How you ever read a, you know book on these kinds of things?

You can't do this. Ever. It doesn't work that way.

Explain.

Evolution is substrate dependant. That means it will happen regardless. It will never "stop".

What you propose here is some sort of...machine man...something.

I can't think of an appropriate metaphor without going overboard.

Self controlled evolution.Also,you should look up transhumanism.

[Adugan]

Taboo-XX wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

How you ever read a, you know book on these kinds of things?

You can't do this. Ever. It doesn't work that way.

Explain.

Evolution is substrate dependant. That means it will happen regardless. It will never "stop".

What you propose here is some sort of...machine man...something.

I can't think of an appropriate metaphor without going overboard.

Cybernetic organism?

[mass perfection]

Devil Mingy wrote...

Relative to Destroy and Control, Synthesis probably is the only solution to the organic vs synthetic problem.

I just wish it was a problem that the game told me was worth solving.

IMO,the whole Machines vs. Organics doesn't fit anywhere in the ME universe besides the Quarian and Geth conflict.

[wantedman dan]

mass perfection wrote...

Devil Mingy wrote...

Relative to Destroy and Control, Synthesis probably is the only solution to the organic vs synthetic problem.

I just wish it was a problem that the game told me was worth solving.

IMO,the whole Machines vs. Organics doesn't fit anywhere in the ME universe besides the Quarian and Geth conflict.

Synthetics VERSUS organics was never a central theme of Mass Effect.

The relationship between organics and synthetics was.

[Joe Del Toro]

You know what solves the Organic/Synthetic conflict?

The entire Rannoch arc and talking to EDI. You prove that they can co-exist. There is no need for Synthesis. It is like solving the Catholic/Protestant conflict only to force them to worship a combination of the two anyway.

[Taboo]

Transhumanism to be means transcending my physical body into something beyond that. Like uploading my mind to a computer or something.

What you describe sounds like what happens to Tetsuo at the end of Akira.

Don't worry though, Tetsuo has the ability to create an ENTIRE universe with his body.

And he does.

[Baa Baa]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

You know what solves the Organic/Synthetic conflict?

The entire Rannoch arc and talking to EDI. You prove that they can co-exist. There is no need for Synthesis. It is like solving the Catholic/Protestant conflict only to force them to worship a combination of the two anyway.

BAM THIS ****ING THIS!

[Taboo]

Baa Baa wrote...

Joe Del Toro wrote...

You know what solves the Organic/Synthetic conflict?

The entire Rannoch arc and talking to EDI. You prove that they can co-exist. There is no need for Synthesis. It is like solving the Catholic/Protestant conflict only to force them to worship a combination of the two anyway.

BAM THIS ****ING THIS!

His comparison is so good it's not even funny.

It's brilliant.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

I just don't like the fact that Bioware takes a huge crap all over evolution.

Evolution takes many millennia.

[Xellith]

mass perfection wrote...

  A lot of you guys believe Synthesis is evil and doesn't solve the Synthetic vs. Organic conflict,but it does indeed.




Now that Mr.Kaku has explained that merging with the machines will open a new era and why he believes we should embrace the tech. singularity and that's what Synthesis does.Merges us with the machines.

 When Mr.Kaku said that merging with the machines will make us like the gods and we'll evolve beyond human standards means the Starchild was correct when he said Synthesis is the final evolution of life.

So you want to protect organics from synthetics by removing organics from the equation - thus completely ignoring what you were trying to accomplish?

[Silpheed58]

Glad you like your opinion, my Shep pities you.

[The Night Mammoth]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

You know what solves the Organic/Synthetic conflict?

The entire Rannoch arc and talking to EDI. You prove that they can co-exist. There is no need for Synthesis. It is like solving the Catholic/Protestant conflict only to force them to worship a combination of the two anyway.

Like a few people have said already, this is the greatest analogy to explain the matter, and I am wholeheartedly in agreement with the point. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 30 mai 2012 - 10:18 .

[Baa Baa]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Joe Del Toro wrote...

You know what solves the Organic/Synthetic conflict?

The entire Rannoch arc and talking to EDI. You prove that they can co-exist. There is no need for Synthesis. It is like solving the Catholic/Protestant conflict only to force them to worship a combination of the two anyway.

BAM THIS ****ING THIS!

His comparison is so good it's not even funny.

It's brilliant.

[The Night Mammoth]

Aside, I'm still waiting for the OP to tell me what his point was.

[mass perfection]

john_sheparrd wrote...

Destroy is the only option!

It's one of three.