Can anyone tell me where to find a copy of the toolset EULA?
This is significantly different from the game EULA located in the Dragon Age docs folder.
We agree to it when installing the toolset. However, it isn't possible to copy that screen to the clipboard. I can't find a copy in the Dragon Age folders, either - perhaps I missed it?
Where can I find the toolset EULA?
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Proleric
, déc. 11 2009 06:42
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 09:38
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Bump.
I'd like to follow Fernando Melo's recent advice to check the toolset EULA. Also, IIRC there is some wording that perhaps I ought to use on my personal website. I'd prefer to be a good citizen.
I'd like to follow Fernando Melo's recent advice to check the toolset EULA. Also, IIRC there is some wording that perhaps I ought to use on my personal website. I'd prefer to be a good citizen.
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 10:13
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EA TOOLS & MATERIALS END USER LICENSE
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You may include materials created with the Tools & Materials on your personal noncommercial website for the noncommercial benefit of the fan community for EA’s products and provided that if you do so, you must also post the following notice on your site on the same web page(s) where those materials are located: “This site is not endorsed by or affiliated with Electronic Arts, or its licensors. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc. and its licensors. All Rights Reserved.” You will not represent that your site is endorsed or approved by or affiliated with EA or our licensors or that any other content on your site is endorsed or approved by or affiliated with EA or our licensors.
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ANY USE YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE OF THESE TOOLS & MATERIALS IS UNDERTAKEN BY YOU ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK. EA DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THESE TOOLS & MATERIALS WILL NOT CAUSE DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM, NETWORK, SOFTWARE OR OTHER TECHNOLOGY.
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 02:53
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Just FYI, if you just run the installer again you can copy it to the clipboad with Ctrl+A Ctrl+C and then cancel before proceeding with the install.
I might be remembering completely wrong, but I thought somebody mentioned the EULA basically stated "all your mods are belong to us". Maybe that's just the for social site... at least it doesn't seem to go beyond "the game and assets are still ours, we just let you mod it." Not that it really matters though... just it'd be slightly annoying if it were "Anything completely new and non-derived you make is ours too."
Not that there's anything wrong with sharing...
I might be remembering completely wrong, but I thought somebody mentioned the EULA basically stated "all your mods are belong to us". Maybe that's just the for social site... at least it doesn't seem to go beyond "the game and assets are still ours, we just let you mod it." Not that it really matters though... just it'd be slightly annoying if it were "Anything completely new and non-derived you make is ours too."
Not that there's anything wrong with sharing...
Modifié par FollowTheGourd, 18 décembre 2009 - 02:59 .
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 03:46
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Yep, that's exactly what I did.FollowTheGourd wrote...
Just FYI, if you just run the installer again you can copy it to the clipboad
Yeah that's pretty much my read on it. You are free to distribute it but you can't sell it and we own it. Except if you get sued - then it's all yours.FollowTheGourd wrote...
I thought somebody mentioned the EULA basically stated "all your mods are belong to us".
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 05:58
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If you were allowed to sell your mod we would be flooded by leeches making worthless mods, hyping them up, and trying to sell them for $1. Like the iPhone App Store basically.
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Posté 18 décembre 2009 - 06:12
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And to some extent I recall hearing that we _had_ to put the non-commercial restriction into the EULA, due to licensing agreements that we're under for some of the third-party stuff that's included with the toolset. Some of those companies make their bread and butter from licensing their programs and libraries to professional game developers and if professional game developers could just download the DA toolset instead it would be problematic.
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Posté 19 décembre 2009 - 01:35
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I wouldn't ever think you'd be allowed to sell your mods by default. I know there were some rumours or concerns about that, but at least SpeedTree and maybe FaceFX (if that's what's used) would probably be at least some of the third party stuff in the toolset I could think of.
Mainly, I just don't see anything in the EULA that would say EA owns all your creative ideas just because you used the toolset to manifest them - even though ideas are a dime a dozen and I've never heard of this coming up as an issue before. All I meant to say was I don't think the EULA is anything we haven't seen before in other games.
Mainly, I just don't see anything in the EULA that would say EA owns all your creative ideas just because you used the toolset to manifest them - even though ideas are a dime a dozen and I've never heard of this coming up as an issue before. All I meant to say was I don't think the EULA is anything we haven't seen before in other games.
