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Is the Reagar Carbine the most broken weapon in the game currently?


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#76
Mr. Heavy

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So Reager does about the same damage as the Claymore, is lighter, but has less range. Oh yeah, that's absurd.
/boggle.

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Feneckus

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Mr. Heavy wrote...

So Reager does about the same damage as the Claymore


No it doesn't.

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Locutus_of_BORG

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Feneckus wrote...

Mr. Heavy wrote...

So Reager does about the same damage as the Claymore


No it doesn't.

+1, it does a little more.   It also does that damage to everything and anything caught within its cone AoE.


X Alastar X wrote...

The krysae is an anti material rifle firing explosive rounds. Its performing just as a weapon of those specifications should. If you have a problem with the krysae you shouldnt want it nerfed you should want it changed to something else or removed entirely. Is it powerful? Yes, yes it is. Again its an ANTI MATERIAL RIFLE WITH EXPLOSIVE ROUNDS. Perhaps youd like to tell the armed forces the Barret .50 cal SR needs a nerf yes? Lol. The Reegar again yes it is indeed incredibly powerful but again that thing is useless at mid to long range. High damage sure also very high ROF eats through clips like theres no tomorrow probably going to be doing a lot of running to ammo boxes yes?

Yes, because a cooperative multiplayer mode of a sci-fi video game that has been made for anyone to play for ****s and giggles carries the same kind of urgency and deathly solemn business as real-life special forces waging actual war. Variety, fair play and mutual enjoyment are crucial factors in the ethics of real war.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 31 mai 2012 - 12:28 .


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It's an awesome gun as it, nerfing it would only render it useless as it already has a small clip and you need to be in face hump range to use it but it's just light enough that a Vanguard can go crazy with it, niche gun found.

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Feneckus wrote...

Mr. Heavy wrote...

So Reager does about the same damage as the Claymore


No it doesn't.


You're right. Claymore X does 206 dmg per pellet, firing 8 per trigger pull, for 1648 dmg per magazine while the Reegar X does 66 dmg per shot at 22 shots per mag for a total of 1452. The Claymore does more dmg in a shorter period of time with a much greater effective range, loses less dmg per shot against armor all for the cost of weighting twice as much.

#s provided from https://docs.google....bWc&output=html

edit: also should be noted that the Claymore X comes with 18 spare shots/mags where as the Reegar X has 88 spare shots or 4 spare mags.

Modifié par toomuchnothing, 31 mai 2012 - 12:33 .


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StrawHatMoose

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**** the reegar I want one of those hand cannons the phantoms have so I can kill enemies in three shots like they do to me. Man that would be a sweet weapon. I would swap my claymore, my revenant and my paladin for that.

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Stardusk wrote...

 

Yes, it has very bad range...BUT...

it has low weight, requires no aim and instant kills almost anything...

How is that not broken?


It wis crazy overpowered for the small, oh so small minority of players with the skill to use it up close and personal.

For the other 99%, it's a mediocre to good weapon that will give average kils and scores, at best, and get them killed time and time again, at normal err worst.

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I actually dislike this gun after using it a decent amount. I'd rather take the hurricane or claymore.

The thing is the Reegar takes out Atlas shields faster than anything I've tried. Does it have a multiplier to shields?

Modifié par RamsenC, 31 mai 2012 - 12:42 .


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Karolus_V wrote...

What I know is when someone has one, the game became very easy, or , on gold, even if the other 3 are average(so, silver players) , it becomes doable, especially if the Reagar carabine is paired with a infiltrator. FUSH FUSH FUSH ALL KILLED. In the meantime, my Saber has killed 2 or something like this >.<.


Maybe you just suck. Saw a guy using a reegar x in my lobby (on glacier so very close range). I used my trusty batarian soldier with a hurricane and carnifex and I still got to 75 kills before him and beat him out for score. He didn't do too badly, though he died because of how close range he was.

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SHUT. UP.
I swear to god if it gets nerfed before I unlock it.....

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Stardusk wrote...

 

Yes, it has very bad range...BUT...

it has low weight, requires no aim and instant kills almost anything...

How is that not broken?


You answered your own question in the first sentence of your post.  How is that not redundant?

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The gun is fine. The extremely limited range and low ammo capacity are enough to keep it in check imho. If it loses a sizable chunk of that insane damage output, it becomes another pure novelty weapon, a paperweight.

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So, are people saying it's strong as a bad thing? Strong weapons are useful, what's the problem?

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Feneckus

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toomuchnothing wrote...


You're right. Claymore X does 206 dmg per pellet, firing 8 per trigger pull, for 1648 dmg per magazine while the Reegar X does 66 dmg per shot at 22 shots per mag for a total of 1452. The Claymore does more dmg in a shorter period of time with a much greater effective range, loses less dmg per shot against armor all for the cost of weighting twice as much.


Those numbers are clearly wrong. A full Reegar mag does a ****load more damage than a Claymore shot.

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1337Floctender wrote...

So, are people saying it's strong as a bad thing? Strong weapons are useful, what's the problem?


The general design principle is that if a weapon is too strong, other weapons become less useful in the grand scheme of things, which diminishes depth and variety.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:07 .


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1337Floctender wrote...

So, are people saying it's strong as a bad thing? Strong weapons are useful, what's the problem?


I think it being fairly easy to aim plays a part in it. What a horrible noob weapon, zomg!

Modifié par Influ, 31 mai 2012 - 01:06 .


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StrawHatMoose wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...

What I know is when someone has one, the game became very easy, or , on gold, even if the other 3 are average(so, silver players) , it becomes doable, especially if the Reagar carabine is paired with a infiltrator. FUSH FUSH FUSH ALL KILLED. In the meantime, my Saber has killed 2 or something like this >.<.


Maybe you just suck. Saw a guy using a reegar x in my lobby (on glacier so very close range). I used my trusty batarian soldier with a hurricane and carnifex and I still got to 75 kills before him and beat him out for score. He didn't do too badly, though he died because of how close range he was.


Yay I suck because people use in silver a weapon  that is clearly overpowered  in this level of difficulty  and makes the game boring for the rest... cut the tipical response as how good or bad I am,it doesn't make much diference in what happens in silver with that weapon.

Anyway quote all I said, dont try to make it seem like  I complain about  the gun because someone kills a lot, when what actually I dont like is that guns kill nearly all, making the rounds too easy, and thus, boring. I see  that this shiny new killing toy is fun on gold, but destroys the fun for the others in lower difficulty levels.

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anyone maybe tested if shredder mod works on this reagar? from my tests it looks that it penetrate guardian shields with that mod (still you can easly kill him with this splash damage and by hitting arms and legs). shooting slower in center of shield without mod did nothing. with mod dealed damage.
hard to test reduced armor penalty part because mostly of probably some modiffier on armor damage.

also it looks that this gun score headshots, got medals from them.

#94
Ikilledkillab

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Really powerful but very low range and terrible ammo consumption.

Its a trade off, not overpowered. It has balance. Amazing in one area and terrible in others.

Modifié par Ikilledkillab, 31 mai 2012 - 01:44 .


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For my play style with Kroguard this thing is a monster.

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God I hope I get this weapon before the next balance update, as it looks like the excessive whining on these forums will almost certainly result in a nerf.

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Ikilledkillab

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Lots of people whining that other people are going to steal their kills in a coop game in here.

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To the people saying this weapon is OP/broken...try playing it on gold with something that can't take hits. Unless you are a really good player, you will probably get killed a fair number of times, at least until you get used to it, and realize that if it isn't within 10 meters of you, you damn well have another gun or a lot of powers to spam.

After the first time I used it, (and it was against the Geth) I honestly didn't want half of the enemies to get close enough for me to get to use the carbine, despite how powerful it is. Instead, I decided to instead switch to my GPSMG and start unloading.

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Ikilledkillab

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You spend more time reloading than shooting with this gun. Its not OP.

#100
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Real or not Locutus we ARE at war for the future of the galaxy against the reaper menace and a weapon should perform to its specifications or it should be changed to something that does operate within the *desired* specifications. And yes some weapons are going to be complete destruction on the enemy given the right class *training* and the right hands *player* while at the same time can be complete garbage in the wrong hands. Thats kind of how weapons work lol