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#276
Evenjelith

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Shaani wrote...

The Asari, Turians, and Salarians appear stagnant and unwilling to take risks.  I'm not sure how you can deny that, considering that robo-cthulhu landed on the Council's roof and started singing the song that ends the world, and they pretty much dismissed it as swamp gas.

The uselessness of the Council races' political system, and the Council in particular,  is also a theme.  The Asari use futile tactics against the Reapers because that's all they know.  The Salarians are perfectly willing to stab the krogan in the back to maintain the status quo, even as everyone's homeworld burns for want of an army.  The Turians bombard your planet from orbit if you touch a dormant mass relay. 

The Council will set there, shruging it's shoulders, while it's own client races colonies vanish, are wiped out by slavers, or come under Geth attack.  Meanwhile, other races wait hundreds or thousands of years for a voice in interstellar politics, because the Council thinks they aren't "ready to defend the galaxy".


I agree with every point you make, we just seem to differ on how much of that you chalk up to the Relays and Reaper social engineering.

Is this what you're saying in a nutshell:?

The relays allowed the civilizations of the galaxy to interact on an unprecedented scale but in so doing it over-extends them. While on the galaxy map their territories butt up to one another, so much of that space is either uncharted or uninhabited. Because of this over-extension, they Citadel races have to act with caution and restraint. This leads to a lot of inaction and impotence (aka Soverign), since acknowledging such a threat would expose just how fragil Citadel space is.

I don't think the tactics of the Asari, Silarians or Turians in ME3 have anything to do with Relays. It's what happens when cavemen go up against trained soldiers. There are no tactics. Reaper assault power is overwhelming and when people get backed into a corner they start thinking about no.1.

Finally, I'm not sure lack of exploration is stagnation. Science, Arts, Mathmatics; all of these things were alive and well in Citadel space. The Asari had just finished the largest Supercollider in galactic history. As far as I'm concerned it's a good thing they werent spreading to new systems at break-neck speeds. Slow and steady wins the race.

#277
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Evenjelith wrote...

Shaani wrote...

The Asari, Turians, and Salarians appear stagnant and unwilling to take risks.  I'm not sure how you can deny that, considering that robo-cthulhu landed on the Council's roof and started singing the song that ends the world, and they pretty much dismissed it as swamp gas.

The uselessness of the Council races' political system, and the Council in particular,  is also a theme.  The Asari use futile tactics against the Reapers because that's all they know.  The Salarians are perfectly willing to stab the krogan in the back to maintain the status quo, even as everyone's homeworld burns for want of an army.  The Turians bombard your planet from orbit if you touch a dormant mass relay. 

The Council will set there, shruging it's shoulders, while it's own client races colonies vanish, are wiped out by slavers, or come under Geth attack.  Meanwhile, other races wait hundreds or thousands of years for a voice in interstellar politics, because the Council thinks they aren't "ready to defend the galaxy".


I agree with every point you make, we just seem to differ on how much of that you chalk up to the Relays and Reaper social engineering.

Is this what you're saying in a nutshell:?

The relays allowed the civilizations of the galaxy to interact on an unprecedented scale but in so doing it over-extends them. While on the galaxy map their territories butt up to one another, so much of that space is either uncharted or uninhabited. Because of this over-extension, they Citadel races have to act with caution and restraint. This leads to a lot of inaction and impotence (aka Soverign), since acknowledging such a threat would expose just how fragil Citadel space is.

I don't think the tactics of the Asari, Silarians or Turians in ME3 have anything to do with Relays. It's what happens when cavemen go up against trained soldiers. There are no tactics. Reaper assault power is overwhelming and when people get backed into a corner they start thinking about no.1.

Finally, I'm not sure lack of exploration is stagnation. Science, Arts, Mathmatics; all of these things were alive and well in Citadel space. The Asari had just finished the largest Supercollider in galactic history. As far as I'm concerned it's a good thing they werent spreading to new systems at break-neck speeds. Slow and steady wins the race.


Their development is still shockingly slow. yet, the reapers really didn't like the idea of lesser races doing scientific research that isn't based on knowledge given by the reapers.

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shodiswe wrote...

Evenjelith wrote...

Shaani wrote...

 


Their development is still shockingly slow. yet, the reapers really didn't like the idea of lesser races doing scientific research that isn't based on knowledge given by the reapers.


Slow based on what? What timescale do we have to compare to?

#279
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Humanitys emergence onto the galactic stage, the new thechnologies, inventions, reinvention and new strategies seems to have sparked a small renesance among the council races. Even the asari decided to start up basic research facilities (as opposed to tweaking current tech in barely noticable ways) after a few millenia of stagnaton.