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[The Angry One]

Hey, sparky. You don't get to claim to be fair and objective while continually making wall o' text posts where all you do is try to belittle others.

[Grimwick]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
lol here comes the BSN resident eyore. if i had to name one person that fits the bill of my earlier post, it would be you. 

Watch out guys, we've got a bot over here!

What right to you have to believe your opinion is more valid than hers?

because im far more objective and because i would never subscribe to the microsexcuse debate tactic where i constantly throw up bill oreilly type spin where one side can continually throw out a new excuse in 10 seconds which takes the other side 100x longer to answer and the other side either gets flooded with micro excuses to answer or simply gives up due to the sheer time it takes to answer each seemingly mindless opinion.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Move along folks.

[Funkdrspot]

NS Wizdum wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

Ns wizdom, I actually DID headcanon my way out of the ending and you know what the retakers did when they found themselves on the losing side of the argument? They bailed. That's not logic, that's emotion they're thinking with. They want a new ending and are using preceived logic and plot disconnects as their thinly veiled excuse for one. But when presented with info that ties up 1 problem, they just move to the next issue and when that issue is resolved, they'll move back to the previous one. A vicious cycle where everyone talks, no one listens and everyone just seems to want to affirm their own opinions. The few intelligent people on this earth don't worry about affirming or group-think, they actively challenge their opinion for validity.

Huh, kind of like how you just ignored my post, and went back to complaining about the Retakers.

no not at all sir. im on a cell phone so its virtually impossible for me to respond to anyone who multiquotes

[Funkdrspot]

The Angry One wrote...

Hey, sparky. You don't get to claim to be fair and objective while continually making wall o' text posts where all you do is try to belittle others.

what you may consider belittling is probably me simply telling the truth. where did i belittle someone? even if i was, i dont see how that impacts my ability to talk about the TOPIC in a fair and objective manner.

[The Angry One]

Funkdrspot wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Hey, sparky. You don't get to claim to be fair and objective while continually making wall o' text posts where all you do is try to belittle others.

what you may consider belittling is probably me simply telling the truth. where did i belittle someone? even if i was, i dont see how that impacts my ability to talk about the TOPIC in a fair and objective manner.

Alright we're done here, no point in going around in circles with someone being deliberately obtuse.

[Funkdrspot]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
lol here comes the BSN resident eyore. if i had to name one person that fits the bill of my earlier post, it would be you. 

Careful everyonen, stay upwind, here we have a wonderful natural specimen: the self-percieved 'badass'. 

badass? nope not even. nice attempt to ad hominem though

[Funkdrspot]

The Angry One wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Hey, sparky. You don't get to claim to be fair and objective while continually making wall o' text posts where all you do is try to belittle others.

what you may consider belittling is probably me simply telling the truth. where did i belittle someone? even if i was, i dont see how that impacts my ability to talk about the TOPIC in a fair and objective manner.

Alright we're done here, no point in going around in circles with someone being deliberately obtuse.

lol funny because thats exactly how i would describe nearly every post you make, deliberately obtuse and full of micro excuses. im somehow belittling but your constant snide, sarcastic remakrs arent...ok

[The Night Mammoth]

Funkdrspot wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
lol here comes the BSN resident eyore. if i had to name one person that fits the bill of my earlier post, it would be you. 

Careful everyonen, stay upwind, here we have a wonderful natural specimen: the self-percieved 'badass'. 

badass? nope not even. nice attempt to ad hominem though

That is an ad-hom, you're right!

Anything else? 

[Grimwick]

Funkdrspot wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
lol here comes the BSN resident eyore. if i had to name one person that fits the bill of my earlier post, it would be you. 

Careful everyonen, stay upwind, here we have a wonderful natural specimen: the self-percieved 'badass'. 

badass? nope not even. nice attempt to ad hominem though

Ok, I tried to not say anything more but this one made me laugh.

[The Angry One]

Funkdrspot wrote...

no u

Is all I'm reading. Oh well, moving along, nothing to see here.

[Pelle6666]

"Without the relays interstellar travel would be impossible." Nihlus, one of the first things we learn about the ME universe in ME1.....

[Shaani]

NS Wizdum wrote...

There is no way to headcannon your way out of the bleak ending of Mass Effect 3. Everyone either dies quickly, or less quickly

Or really really really really really really really really really really really really less quickly, since people are still around 10,000 years later, and all.

[JPN17]

Pelle6666 wrote...

"Without the relays interstellar travel would be impossible." Nihlus, one of the first things we learn about the ME universe in ME1.....

Pretty much. Galactic travel without the relays really only became possible on twitter after the ending was ripped apart and the Bioware reps were trying to save face. Everything in game says it's not possible, so it's really just another out of game retcon to add to the ever growing list.

[Satanic Racist]

The Codex states the mass relays are much faster than FTL.

[The Angry One]

Shaani wrote...

NS Wizdum wrote...

There is no way to headcannon your way out of the bleak ending of Mass Effect 3. Everyone either dies quickly, or less quickly

Or really really really really really really really really really really really really less quickly, since people are still around 10,000 years later, and all.

A couple of primitives are around on an undisclosed planet, who are so ignorant they don't even know what exists in the galaxy.
That tells us nothing. Oh a couple of people are around! Yeah, and there were still humans in Planet of the Apes.

[Shaani]

The Angry One wrote...
A couple of primitives are around on an undisclosed planet, who are so ignorant they don't even know what exists in the galaxy.

I didn't see anything primative.  Just a grandfather trying to explain what outer space is to his grandson in simple terms that a young child could understand.  He then follows it up by saying "One day, you'll go to outer space and other worlds."

No Mad Max post apocalyptic scene, nobody getting speared, ect.

[Taboo]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
lol here comes the BSN resident eyore. if i had to name one person that fits the bill of my earlier post, it would be you. 

Watch out guys, we've got a bot over here!

What right to you have to believe your opinion is more valid than hers?

because im far more objective and because i would never subscribe to the microsexcuse debate tactic where i constantly throw up bill oreilly type spin where one side can continually throw out a new excuse in 10 seconds which takes the other side 100x longer to answer and the other side either gets flooded with micro excuses to answer or simply gives up due to the sheer time it takes to answer each seemingly mindless opinion. its basically when you can tell that someone has literally put zero thought into their answer b/c it takes you all of one minute to think of an answer. "tide goes in, tide goes out. you cant explain that!" it would take me 30 min of physics and gravity to explain, and then the response would be some variation of the initial question.

I wish you'd suscribe to proper sentence structure. It's very hard for me to take you seriously like this.

[The Angry One]

Shaani wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
A couple of primitives are around on an undisclosed planet, who are so ignorant they don't even know what exists in the galaxy.

I didn't see anything primative.  Just a grandfather trying to explain what outer space is to his grandson in simple terms that a young child could understand.  He then follows it up by saying "One day, you'll go to outer space and other worlds."

No Mad Max post apocalyptic scene, nobody getting speared, ect.

He says maybe he'll go, in a patronising way as some would tell children today.
Again, he doesn't even know what's out there. Just that "each star may have life lol".

Don't give me the child bit. What would be more exciting to a child? 
"There may be life out there!" or "You see that area of space? That's where the Krogan live. They're giant tortoises!"

[Shaani]

The Angry One wrote...
Again, he doesn't even know what's out there. Just that "each star may have life lol".

He's talking about exploring space, not repeating some kind of silly tribal superstition.

He tells his grandkid that one day he will go to space, fly to new stars, and those stars may have new worlds and new life.   Considering that even with the mass relays, they only actually ever explored 1% of the galaxy, there's probably plenty out there left to discover, even after 10,000 years.

[The Angry One]

Shaani wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Again, he doesn't even know what's out there. Just that "each star may have life lol".

He's talking about exploring space, not repeating some kind of silly tribal superstition.

He's talking about exploring space with superstition.
We can talk about exploring space today. We ARE talking about exploring space.
Does that mean we CAN explore space?

Yeah how're those NASA budget cuts working out again?

He tells his grandkid that one day he will go to space, fly to new stars, and those stars may have new worlds and new life.   Considering that even with the mass relays, they only actually ever explored 1% of the galaxy, there's probably plenty out there left to discover, even after 10,000 years.

Yes, there is. But why not talk about the ones we already know?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

And in the Stargazer scene, Shepard is now "The Shepard" indicating having been deified as some sort of warrior god/dess. Hence, primative society. Just because they didn't have their spears with them doesn't mean that the camp isn't 50 yds behind them.

[The Angry One]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

And in the Stargazer scene, Shepard is now "The Shepard" indicating having been deified as some sort of warrior god/dess. Hence, primative society. Just because they didn't have their spears with them doesn't mean that the camp isn't 50 yds behind them.

Also note the conspicuous lack of any city lights in the background or any aerial traffic.

[bleetman]

JPN17 wrote...

Pelle6666 wrote...

"Without the relays interstellar travel would be impossible." Nihlus, one of the first things we learn about the ME universe in ME1.....

Pretty much. Galactic travel without the relays really only became possible on twitter after the ending was ripped apart and the Bioware reps were trying to save face.

Which was, to me, entirely hilarious.

'Hey, guys! it's ok! See, that specific ending consequence all y'all are so upset about? Well, uh, it still happens. But don't worry, it's actually almost entirely irrelevant anyway! That makes it ok, right?'

[Shaani]

The Angry One wrote...

He's talking about exploring space with superstition.

I just watched it again on youtube, and I don't see it.  He's just talking to a 3 year old.

We can talk about exploring space today. We ARE talking about exploring space.
Does that mean we CAN explore space?

He never says that they can't go into space.  He does say that it is possible to go into space.  From this, you have concluded that they can't go to space and are tribal primatives who're somehow on a world far from Earth via volcano virgin sacrifice-powered space travel or Lord Xenu or something,  I guess.  

They are primative because they lost the mass relays, even though I'm pretty sure they still appear with Control.  Kay.

Fine, whatever.  Maybe you're right, but I think that's a silly interpretation.

Yes, there is. But why not talk about the ones we already know?

Because they wouldn't have Buzz Alderan in their game to talk about how we don't need to go explore space since we already know what's out there so whatever.

[Wulfram]

JPN17 wrote...

Pretty much. Galactic travel without the relays really only became possible on twitter after the ending was ripped apart and the Bioware reps were trying to save face. Everything in game says it's not possible, so it's really just another out of game retcon to add to the ever growing list.

Except the speed of regular FTL was established well before then, and once you have that there's no good reason why it should be impossible.

edit: and of course Reaper capabilities to travel without relays were strongly established by Arrival.

Modifié par Wulfram, 31 mai 2012 - 09:57 .